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LAF under GJA and Central Bank under RS - the last two institutions preventing a HA takeover of the country?

HA takeover of Lebanon

  • Will fail

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Will pass

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Is not true

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • LAF the backbone of the country will prevent this

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • LAF is Stronger everyday with US Crusader support

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Central Bank will always apply America sanctions because of dollars drop

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Central Bank will resist HA pressure

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • HA is trying to destroy LAF image

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • HA is trying to control Central Bank

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • HA not trying to destroy army image

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • HA not trying to control Central Bank

    Votes: 1 25.0%

  • Total voters
    4
Thawra # Furoshima

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
How come these old files didn't settle before Bassil? How can you blame Bassil for issues that happened during others time?
First it is not Bassil role
He is not minister of defense
President should have taken the lead here
But President is absent letting Bassil take over
Well in army Bassil stumbled down on Army leadership
Who told him get off
You can’t interfere or dictate or change military officers or intelligence director
Saab is the man of Bassil
Ok Bassil fear Joseph Aoun , he is jealous of him although Joseph Aoun told him and he told the President he is not a candidate for the presidency
He is commander in Chief of the army almost as important as the president
 
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  • !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

    Well-Known Member
    How come these old files didn't settle before Bassil? How can you blame Bassil for issues that happened during others time?
    You should be asking abou saab this. Why only now does a defense minister have issues with the General of the Army?? Why has all the defense ministers before them have had no issues with the General.
     
    JB81

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    First it is not Bassil role
    He is not minister of defense
    President should have taken the lead here
    But President is absent letting Bassil take over
    Well in army Bassil stumbled down on Army leadership
    Who told him get off
    You can’t interfere or dictate or change military officers or intelligence director
    Saab is the man of Bassil
    Ok Bassil fear Joseph Aoun , he is jealous of him although Joseph Aoun told him and he told the President he is not a candidate for the presidency
    He is commander in Chief of the army almost as important as the president
    Sounds like stories I hear from neswen fern or zouzou ebba
     
    JB81

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    You should be asking abou saab this. Why only now does a defense minister have issues with the General of the Army?? Why has all the defense ministers before them have had no issues with the General.
    Did the army general say he have issues with the Defense Minister?
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    You should be asking abou saab this. Why only now does a defense minister have issues with the General of the Army?? Why has all the defense ministers before them have had no issues with the General.
    General reformed military school ? ending corruption there
    Army last year reduced its budget by 400 million dollars
    This year also Army was supposed to receive 400 millions dollars from state to buy weapons they received 30 millions dollars
    Army last year
    Stopped hiring
    Pay 1,5 percent on health
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    You should be asking abou saab this. Why only now does a defense minister have issues with the General of the Army?? Why has all the defense ministers before them have had no issues with the General.
    He's only defending him la enno ma7soub 3l Tayyar, law gher hek ken toli3 sari5o w wassal 3l marri5
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    Sounds like stories I hear from neswen fern or zouzou ebba
    No Habiby that is in all newspapers
    Today there is problem and decrees are not signed
    I m nice I m not even talking about fakhoury incident
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    Army stopped hire
    Military are servings 5 more years
    Army is reduced to bones in its budget
    What do you want more
    Army don’t have enough benzin to patrol
    USA are giving all help to army aib
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    @LVV I'd like to congratulate you on Boris Johnson being an addition to your crusader league
    now you have 3 crusader knights (not counting @Indie ? )... but hopefully, Johnson's reign will not last because the brits are not
    as retarded as the americans
     
    JB81

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    No Habiby that is in all newspapers
    Today there is problem and decrees are not signed
    I m nice I m not even talking about fakhoury incident
    Sorry, but todays journalism is no more reporting facts. They all are feeding off rumors and gosips to attrack audience.

    I need something more reliable than this. For example, the Army General didn't issue any statement.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

    Well-Known Member
    Army stopped hire
    Military are servings 5 more years
    Army is reduced to bones in its budget
    What do you want more
    Army don’t have enough benzin to patrol
    USA are giving all help to army aib
    80% of the the LAF arms are from the US. The US in the past 8-10 years have given the LAF over 2 billion dollars worth of arms whilst the gov of this country of charades are reducing the budget for the LAF.
     
    !Aoune32

    !Aoune32

    Well-Known Member
    Sorry, but todays journalism is no more reporting facts. They all are feeding off rumors and gosips to attrack audience.

    I need something more reliable than this. For example, the Army General didn't issue any statement.
    3anjad??? You have no idea what is happening man seriously. khalik just defending him.

    Lebanon's army chief on Saturday criticised measures in the country's austerity budget, including a recruitment freeze, warning they would have a negative impact on the military.

    General Joseph Aoun's intervention, rare for a Lebanese army chief, comes after the government approved a budget aimed at unlocking billions of dollars in aid that an official source said includes a three-year army recruitment freeze.

    "The ban on recruiting soldiers or cadets, and the ban on dismissal, will have negative consequences on the military institution," Aoun said in a statement published by the army.


    Lebanon is one of the world's most indebted countries and the government plan is expected to trim the country's deficit this year to 7.59 percent.

    Donors at the so-called CEDRE conference last year pledged $11 billion in aid and soft loans to Lebanon, which vowed to reduce its public spending.

    Aoun said the army has already been adopting a stringent approach to spending and last year returned part of its budget to the state coffers.

    "The army is the backbone of Lebanon, we do not exaggerate in saying that it guarantees (the country's) security and stability. Its mission is not limited to times of war and conflicts," he said.

    "Despite the current security stability, significant challenges remain, such as those at our eastern, southern or maritime borders," Aoun added.

    Lebanon has been hit by repeated political deadlocks in recent years and the economic woes have been compounded by the devastating war in neighbouring Syria.

    It is also technically still at war with Israel, with United Nations peacekeepers stationed on the frontier.

    There have been numerous protests in recent weeks against the austerity measures by Lebanese government workers, including by retired soldiers concerned about possible pension reductions.

    Civil servant salaries are to be cut under the new budget, which would also introduce a 2-percent tax on imports and increase taxes on interest income from bank deposits from seven to 10 percent.

    The plan still needs to be ratified by parliament, giving lawmakers an opportunity to table amendments.


     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    The FPM is the primary reason this country hasn't collapsed yet, and is the only party actually serious about building a government.
    correction: Aoun, Micheal Aoun, not the FPM .. after Aoun FPM is bound to split.
    you have crusaders in FPM, never forget about that
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    Sorry, but todays journalism is no more reporting facts. They all are feeding off rumors and gosips to attrack audience.

    I need something more reliable than this. For example, the Army General didn't issue any statement.
    You know army is Sammet akbar
    They don’t give direct political statements
    But actions speak plus military sources are responding
    Only you in FPM are not seeing it because you are embarrassed by a conflict with the army
    All this because of Bassil
    But to be fair it is not Bassil Mistake
    It is the President Mistake
    He should assume his constitutional role
    But his is allowing Bassil to be in charge
    No problem in politics
    But in army matters that’s not a game
    Army see Bassil as a nobody as nothing in comparison with giving their blood to the country
    They will not take directions from the small guy
    Each of them megawar 1,75 cm
     
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    JB81

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    3anjad???

    Lebanon's army chief on Saturday criticised measures in the country's austerity budget, including a recruitment freeze, warning they would have a negative impact on the military.

    General Joseph Aoun's intervention, rare for a Lebanese army chief, comes after the government approved a budget aimed at unlocking billions of dollars in aid that an official source said includes a three-year army recruitment freeze.

    "The ban on recruiting soldiers or cadets, and the ban on dismissal, will have negative consequences on the military institution," Aoun said in a statement published by the army.


    Lebanon is one of the world's most indebted countries and the government plan is expected to trim the country's deficit this year to 7.59 percent.

    Donors at the so-called CEDRE conference last year pledged $11 billion in aid and soft loans to Lebanon, which vowed to reduce its public spending.

    Aoun said the army has already been adopting a stringent approach to spending and last year returned part of its budget to the state coffers.

    "The army is the backbone of Lebanon, we do not exaggerate in saying that it guarantees (the country's) security and stability. Its mission is not limited to times of war and conflicts," he said.

    "Despite the current security stability, significant challenges remain, such as those at our eastern, southern or maritime borders," Aoun added.

    Lebanon has been hit by repeated political deadlocks in recent years and the economic woes have been compounded by the devastating war in neighbouring Syria.

    It is also technically still at war with Israel, with United Nations peacekeepers stationed on the frontier.

    There have been numerous protests in recent weeks against the austerity measures by Lebanese government workers, including by retired soldiers concerned about possible pension reductions.

    Civil servant salaries are to be cut under the new budget, which would also introduce a 2-percent tax on imports and increase taxes on interest income from bank deposits from seven to 10 percent.

    The plan still needs to be ratified by parliament, giving lawmakers an opportunity to table amendments.


    So the Army General is unhappy with the new defense budget where the Parliamentary Defense Committee issued.

    I don't see him having issues with the Defense Minister for not signing new decrees.

    Unless I misread your post
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    So the Army General is unhappy with the new defense budget where the Parliamentary Defense Committee issued.

    I don't see him having issues with the Defense Minister for not signing new decrees.

    Unless I misread your post
    He is unhappy with Minister of defense not defending the army
    Look man that’s the fact
    If you know Bassil
    Tell him to f,,, of from the army and to leave it alone or he will get 10 deputies in 2022
    Okay ?
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    So the unsigned decrees are not the issue?
    Part of the issue plus budget plus trips of commander plus nominations of officers plus presidential ambitions
    Bassil is furious he has no say in the army
    So he is playing blackmail game but that a very dangerous game for him
    FPM bases are from the army
    Commander told the President
    I m not a candidate for the presidency
    Bassil should calm down and leave the army in peace if he doesn’t want to raise its budget
     
    JB81

    JB81

    Legendary Member
    Part of the issue plus budget plus trips of commander plus nominations of officers plus presidential ambitions
    Bassil is furious he has no say in the army
    So he is playing blackmail game but that a very dangerous game for him
    FPM bases are from the army
    Commander told the President
    I m not a candidate for the presidency
    Bassil should calm down and leave the army in peace if he doesn’t want to raise its budget
    You failed to present that the Defense Minister is at disagreement with the Army General over old Decrees.

    Your initial attempt to create division between the backbone of Lebanon's security. That's a shame
     
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