Lebanese Forces Samir Geagea Speech Sep 2019

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As opposed to the FPM Zemmi Islamic Republic of Iran followers :)
Cue the "fal ya7kom lekhwan" comments.

Yes, fal ya7kom lekhwan... in Egypt, if they win an election. Not if they lose or if they usurp power! FPM are inherently anti-democracy so it is no surprise to see them in the lap of Iran.
 
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    MELF

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    LOL. Everyone see you there for the soulta bending for Hariri Berri and Joumblat
    My friend, LF have been going at it alone against all collaborators with Syrians and now with Hizbullah. Threatening LF with isolation will strengthen their base.
     
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    نديم الجميل: نفتقد لمشروع الشهيد بشير




    أكد النائب نديم الجميل أننا “نفتقد لمشروع الشهيد بشير جميل النهضوي بزمن الانحطاط، ولأخلاقه في زمن نفتقد فيه للنبل والنزاهة في الحياة السياسية، ولوطنيته الصرفة في زمن الولاء لأوطان لا تشبهنا، للأمل الذي زرعته فينا في زمن اليأس والافلاس”، “حان الوقت لوقف نزيف اليأس”.

    وأضاف جميل خلال الذكرى السابعة والثلاثين لاستشهاد الرئيس بشير الجميل التي ‏أحيتها القوات اللبنانية في بيروت في دير العزارية في الأشرفية أن “لا حلول وفذلكات للمشاكل في لبنان، إذا لم نجد حلّاً للسلاح غير الشرعي، وإذا لم نواجه الاحتلال الذي يصادر قرار الدولة، لا يمكن أن نحلم بلبنان جديد”.
    وقال، “بعد 15 سنة من الممارسات الشاذة والخطابات الصريحة، يتبين لنا كم كنا على حق في توصيف أساس وأصل المشكلة في لبنان. وهدفنا اليوم، أنو لبنان ما يركع إلا لله وأكيد ما يركع لحزب الله”.
    وأردف، “ما الذي دفع بشير لحمل السلاح عام 1975؟ لأن فريق غريب تطاول على الدولة وسيادتها، وقد تلكأت الدولة وتقاعست القيام بواجباتها في وضع هذا الفريق على حدّه.
    وتابع، “ما أشبه اليوم بالأمس، عندما نرى فريق من اللبنانيين يضع سلاحه ومقدراته بتصرّف إيران وحكام إيران. وهذا الفريق مستعد أن يعمل حرب كرمال إيران. والدولة من جديد متلكئة ومتقاعسة لا بل متواطئة”.
    وعن الصورة المرفوعة اليوم في ساحة ساسين قال، “القضية هي هي، البيارق هي هي قوات وكتائب، وبدنا نرّجع القلوب هي هي، ومعاً سنعيد لبنان الى الحياة”.
    وسأل، “ما هو المطلوب؟ هل نسكت عن المجاهرة بالانتماء لإيران؟ هل نؤجل شكل مصادرة الدولة؟ هل نستسلم أمام السلاح غير الشرعي؟ هل نهاجر ونترك البلد ينهار أمام مبايعة دول أجنبية؟ خيارنا الوحيد هو الاستمرار برفض هذا الواقع بقوة والعمل بجهد لتغيير هذا الواقع”.
    وتابع، معاً سنعمل من أجل أن يعيش لبنان، وسيعيش لبنان بصمودكم، ونبقى”.
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    My friend, LF have been going at it alone against all collaborators with Syrians and now with Hizbullah. Threatening LF with isolation will strengthen their base.
    LOL... I know you don't believe what you say.

    LF all along have been nothing but traitors to the President and the Prime Minister.

    I don't want to go to explain how, since we've been discussing it over and over; but the one who accepted himself to be a central role in attacking and isolating the President and FPM for the past 2 years, cannot go cry if he is too small for the game.
     
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    MELF

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    LOL... I know you don't believe what you say.

    LF all along have been nothing but traitors to the President and the Prime Ministers.

    I don't want to go to explain how, since we've been discussing it over and over; but the one who accepted himself to be a central role in attacking and isolating the President and FPM for the past 2 years, cannot go cry if he is too small for the game.
    LF don't change their principles for this seat or that... Your problem is you think the LF are like FPM, but they are completely different.

    And for years you called them nothing but Hariri puppets... Now you're calling them traitors? I mean, some consistency would do you good but the party you support is inconsistent so understandable.
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    نديم الجميل: نفتقد لمشروع الشهيد بشير




    أكد النائب نديم الجميل أننا “نفتقد لمشروع الشهيد بشير جميل النهضوي بزمن الانحطاط، ولأخلاقه في زمن نفتقد فيه للنبل والنزاهة في الحياة السياسية، ولوطنيته الصرفة في زمن الولاء لأوطان لا تشبهنا، للأمل الذي زرعته فينا في زمن اليأس والافلاس”، “حان الوقت لوقف نزيف اليأس”.

    وأضاف جميل خلال الذكرى السابعة والثلاثين لاستشهاد الرئيس بشير الجميل التي ‏أحيتها القوات اللبنانية في بيروت في دير العزارية في الأشرفية أن “لا حلول وفذلكات للمشاكل في لبنان، إذا لم نجد حلّاً للسلاح غير الشرعي، وإذا لم نواجه الاحتلال الذي يصادر قرار الدولة، لا يمكن أن نحلم بلبنان جديد”.
    وقال، “بعد 15 سنة من الممارسات الشاذة والخطابات الصريحة، يتبين لنا كم كنا على حق في توصيف أساس وأصل المشكلة في لبنان. وهدفنا اليوم، أنو لبنان ما يركع إلا لله وأكيد ما يركع لحزب الله”.
    وأردف، “ما الذي دفع بشير لحمل السلاح عام 1975؟ لأن فريق غريب تطاول على الدولة وسيادتها، وقد تلكأت الدولة وتقاعست القيام بواجباتها في وضع هذا الفريق على حدّه.
    وتابع، “ما أشبه اليوم بالأمس، عندما نرى فريق من اللبنانيين يضع سلاحه ومقدراته بتصرّف إيران وحكام إيران. وهذا الفريق مستعد أن يعمل حرب كرمال إيران. والدولة من جديد متلكئة ومتقاعسة لا بل متواطئة”.
    وعن الصورة المرفوعة اليوم في ساحة ساسين قال، “القضية هي هي، البيارق هي هي قوات وكتائب، وبدنا نرّجع القلوب هي هي، ومعاً سنعيد لبنان الى الحياة”.
    وسأل، “ما هو المطلوب؟ هل نسكت عن المجاهرة بالانتماء لإيران؟ هل نؤجل شكل مصادرة الدولة؟ هل نستسلم أمام السلاح غير الشرعي؟ هل نهاجر ونترك البلد ينهار أمام مبايعة دول أجنبية؟ خيارنا الوحيد هو الاستمرار برفض هذا الواقع بقوة والعمل بجهد لتغيير هذا الواقع”.
    وتابع، معاً سنعمل من أجل أن يعيش لبنان، وسيعيش لبنان بصمودكم، ونبقى”.
    Maybe talking about Mashrou3 Layla suits him better :lol:
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    LF don't change their principles for this seat or that... Your problem is you think the LF are like FPM, but they are completely different.

    And for years you called them nothing but Hariri puppets... Now you're calling them traitors? I mean, some consistency would do you good but the party you support is inconsistent so understandable.
    They got their independency from Hariri to become directly Saudi puppets. They got upgraded
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    LF don't change their principles for this seat or that... Your problem is you think the LF are like FPM, but they are completely different.

    And for years you called them nothing but Hariri puppets... Now you're calling them traitors? I mean, some consistency would do you good but the party you support is inconsistent so understandable.
    LF are principle: "We won't join a government until HA pulls out of Syria".

    Here, they are in a government and HA is in Deir Zour lol...
     
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    MELF

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    They got their independency from Hariri to become directly Saudi puppets. They got upgraded
    It seems your entire worldview is centered around FPM -- who supports them and who doesn't, at any given moment in time.

    If they support FPM, they're not puppets.
    If they don't, then they're puppets.

    How many times have you sang that tune? With Berri? Frangieh? Murr? Hizbullah? Hariri? LF? Lawd knows who else...
     
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    MELF

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    LF are principle: "We won't join a government until HA pulls out of Syria".

    Here, they are in a government and HA is in Deir Zour lol...
    That's not a principle. It seems you don't know what a principle is.

    Let me give you an example. A principle is calling for militias outside control of the state to be disbanded, and reneging on that principle is enabling and covering for the existence of a militia -- stronger than national armed forces -- outside the state. A militia whose leader just went on national television and arrogantly declared he is a collaborator with Iran, a foreign country.
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    It seems your entire worldview is centered around FPM -- who supports them and who doesn't, at any given moment in time.

    If they support FPM, they're not puppets.
    If they don't, then they're puppets.

    How many times have you sang that tune? With Berri? Frangieh? Murr? Hizbullah? Hariri? LF? Lawd knows who else...
    Not our fault you chose to be sluts for others against FPM and Hariri.

    Go cry alone
     
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    That's not a principle. It seems you don't know what a principle is.

    Let me give you an example. A principle is calling for militias outside control of the state to be disbanded, and reneging on that principle is enabling and covering for the existence of a militia -- stronger than national armed forces -- outside the state. A militia whose leader just went on national television and arrogantly declared he is a collaborator with Iran, a foreign country.
    And instead of going full opposition to be true to the principles; we join HA governments for an appointee here and there.

    Ya hek principles ya bala
     
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    MELF

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    Not our fault you chose to be sluts for others against FPM and Hariri.

    Go cry alone
    No one is crying here and the only sluts around here are FPM who will ally with manhab wa dab (elections or otherwise) and change their political speech accordingly in order to win this seat or that. The baltaji Berri becomes not-baltaji when FPM's and Amal's narrow short-term interests converge.

    You can't even defend them without insulting or seeking to demean others, because their actions are indefensible.

    Like I said, isolating LF isn't new. The LF has been isolated, by those who would go on to destroy what's left of this beautiful country, for the better part of the past 40 years. LF can't force anyone else to join them in مشروع الدولة but they can stand as a formidable force against those pushing forth مشروع الدويلة on this country, even if it meant they will struggle.
     
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    And instead of going full opposition to be true to the principles; we join HA governments for an appointee here and there.

    Ya hek principles ya bala
    LF being in the government makes Hizbullah's life worse. Indeed, they are staying true to their principles.

    Geagea is the only man in Lebanon with balls to attack Hizbullah and open call their project in Lebanon what it is -- an Iranian project. Unlike Aoun who collaborated with Hizbullah and ushered in the age of the دويلة -- that will be Aoun's legacy and it must piss you off, to some degree.
     
    JB81

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    No one is crying here and the only sluts around here are FPM who will ally with manhab wa dab (elections or otherwise) and change their political speech accordingly in order to win this seat or that. The baltaji Berri becomes not-baltaji when FPM's and Amal's narrow short-term interests converge.

    You can't even defend them without insulting or seeking to demean others, because their actions are indefensible.

    Like I said, isolating LF isn't new. The LF has been isolated, by those who would go on to destroy what's left of this beautiful country, for the better part of the past 40 years. LF can't force anyone else to join them in مشروع الدولة but they can stand as a formidable force against those pushing forth مشروع الدويلة on this country, even if it meant they will struggle.
    You went all out crazy crying when Berri and Joumblat ditched you. This is the price when you whore for free.

    Had you not used to your old habits of betrayels, whether with FPM or FM, had you been supportive of the President and the Prime Minister, you would been not isolated now. Worst, you work on instigate between the 2 parties, such a dirty party who's country's intrests is in the garbage.

    You sow what you seed. Con't attacking FPM and FM... but 3ala man takra3 mazamirak ya dawoud?
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    LF being in the government makes Hizbullah's life worse. Indeed, they are staying true to their principles.

    Geagea is the only man in Lebanon with balls to attack Hizbullah and open call their project in Lebanon what it is -- an Iranian project. Unlike Aoun who collaborated with Hizbullah and ushered in the age of the دويلة -- that will be Aoun's legacy and it must piss you off, to some degree.
    Your presence in the government gave nothing but legtimacy to HA.

    You only argue the President during the Council while bsaynet ma byensme3 7eskon when Hassan Khalil or HA speack.

    Too bad that you really believe this opposition crap. Everyone knows you are there for the appointees and power. Imagine during the agreement between FPM and LF, FPM asked for the President's support, while all what LF cared is the share.
     
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    You went all out crazy crying when Berri and Joumblat ditched you. This is the price when you whore for free.

    Had you not used to your old habits of betrayels, whether with FPM or FM, had you been supportive of the President and the Prime Minister, you would been not isolated now. Worst, you work on instigate between the 2 parties, such a dirty party who's country's intrests is in the garbage.

    You sow what you seed. Con't attacking FPM and FM...
    LF didn't betray anyone. Hariri and Jumblatt, both cofounders of March 14, betrayed the LF and principles of March 14.
     
    JB81

    JB81

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    LF didn't betray anyone. Hariri and Jumblatt, both cofounders of March 14, betrayed the LF and principles of March 14.
    And how is LF different from Hariri and Jumblatt, other than trying to make undertable deals with Berri and Hariri, than to blow in their face for their stupidity?
     
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