Lebanon’s Economic crisis - Reasons And Way outs

[joseph_lubnan]

No time to exchange blame but the first page of this thread is about you blaming Aoun, za77et that's exactly what you want: exchange blame, well actually not exchange just put blame on Aoun. za77et.

I think PMA holds a large part of the blame. He has been directly a big part of Lebanese politics for 15 years (half of the 30 years FPM likes to blame), with the last three years as president no less. He also was directly part of Lebanese politics in the period that lead directly to Taef, also as president then.

p.s bala tez7eet please

 

[Orangina]

They don’t trust him...
They HATE him lol...

they don’t believe in him
Since day 1 OTV and FPM propaganda machine did nothing but demonizing the protests.
And on top of that invited Ahl el wafa and Bassil made a speech.
From the very beginning he proved that he’a NOT bay el kel.

People hate him dude..
Aoun lost it khalas it’s too late now

He is the President even with the 0 perogatives he has the capacity to lead the people and lead the way.

He’s probably old and not 100% aware of what’s going on.
I mostly blame the bunch of witches advising him
Mainly the witches who were installed by bassil like Pierre Raffoul and Salim Jreysari
No wonder Mireille left.

Bassil ****ed up big time
FPMers have a duty to realize what the hell is going on with the President and revolt inside the party...

u speak of urself
u hate him and u do not represent the majority of the people

 

[Orangina]

Resign has a point. President Aoun sucks.
Jiboulna 7ada mish kherfen ne2dar netfeham ma3o plz.

I bet u r very young
and u don't even read history

saying this is very shallow and prove that u people need urgently to learn how to read

 

[Orangina]

ok great. GOOD LUCK.. i will sit back and watch.
bring down the president, dont provide an alternative, and i am sure everything will be ok. GOOD LUCK.

bingo.. . this is what they think is the best solution... which is not!!

very short-sighted people protesting and they r not even aware they r being used as puppets by some political corrupted parties

I am not defending PMA... but u guys should get organized and go discuss ur ideas... u r dealing with a very smart sulta!

and u think that a protest of 3 months... not representing the whole majority of the Lebanese will change the whole system in one night?

come on let s b realistic here

 

[!Aoune32]

u speak of urself
u hate him and u do not represent the majority of the people

majority of the lebanese people are cowards and are the ones to blame for the situation so i have no faith aslan in the majority.

 

[Orangina]

majority of the lebanese people are cowards and are the ones to blame for the situation so i have no faith aslan in the majority.

this is ur problem... u always want to represent people with different opinions than urs as cowards... this will lead nowhere!

 

[Savo]

I will tell what i think could be a probable scenario..
No one deny that lebanon is under an economic offesive without hiding the huge internal fact regarding wrong economic policies and the corrupted nature of the lebanese politician..
I predict that this situation will escalate to a point of non return.. followed by a division between 2 camps ..:
One iran syria axis camp.
One saudi - arabic - pro western camp ( including israel)
There might be a war like 1982 ans mini invasion in which israel will try to put KO the threat of hezbollah.
That will be followed by a sort of new 17 may agreement and accords on border and gaegae could play the key role in it ..probably

What do u think?

 

[!Aoune32]

this is ur problem... u always want to represent people with different opinions than urs as cowards... this will lead nowhere!

la2 3einy. that is the truth. most of the lebanese people dont care two shits about the country. they kept on voting for the same people and then when something happens blames others. face consequences for your actions.

 

[!Aoune32]

most of those in the public administration who dont work or do anything aslan should be fired right away from their job.

what a charade they are still there. then we have like 30% of them contractors which is even worse.

 

[Orangina]

la2 3einy. that is the truth. most of the lebanese people dont care two shits about the country. they kept on voting for the same people and then when something happens blames others. face consequences for your actions.

tab great... so tell me how will u convince those cowards.. majority to meet u in ur thawra... by cursing their leaders?... by cutting roads?... by allowing some politicians to speak in ur thawra name?... gemayer... geagea... jumbi... hariri do represent u?

u r not being realistic here and u cannot convince any FPMer or HA supporter or amal suppoter to join u in ur protests by cursing them all day long... and leaving cheikh sousou, geagea and setrida and jumbi supporters go on TV and attack el 3ahed w bassil w HA

 

[Orangina]

most of those in the public administration who dont work or do anything aslan should be fired right away from their job.

what a charade they are still there. then we have like 30% of them contractors which is even worse.

agree...

 

[!Aoune32]

tab great... so tell me how will u convince those cowards.. majority to meet u in ur thawra... by cursing their leaders?... by cutting roads?... by allowing some politicians to speak in ur thawra name?... gemayer... geagea... jumbi... hariri do represent u?

u r not being realistic here and u cannot convince any FPMer or HA supporter or amal suppoter to join u in ur protests by cursing them all day long... and leaving cheikh sousou, geagea and setrida and jumbi supporters go on TV and attack el 3ahed w bassil w HA

dont need to convince them. the country will
be broken on their heads, enjoy it
let us see you being in charge of a government when the country is gone. the economy is gone and it will be a while until
it comes back. you havent seen anything yet. wait until people are starving.

 

[!Aoune32]

agree...

ofcourse you agree.
because that is what needs to happen. i am just stating facts. i am a person outside the country. i dont benefit from anyone and never have. i just state my opinion and most of the time its right.

 

[!Aoune32]

FPMers need to learn this is not a protest that is feb 14. you have the LCP, Osama Saad, you have parties like Kataeb, you have most of the lefties on the streets and several other parties on the streets.

 

[Orangina]

ofcourse you agree.
because that is what needs to happen. i am just stating facts. i am a person outside the country. i dont benefit from anyone and never have. i just state my opinion and most of the time its right.

yes i realized from what u post that u r someone living abroad... no doubts!

 

[!Aoune32]

yes i realized from what u post that u r someone living abroad... no doubts!

that doesnt mean anything. i will say again those who live inside henne li kharabo l balad mch ne7na. second you are not better than me. i am a lebanese citizen prior to u even being born so relax.

 

[Orangina]

that doesnt mean anything. i will say again those who live inside henne li kharabo l balad mch ne7na. second you are not better than me. i am a lebanese citizen prior to u even being born so relax.

who said u r the ones responsible of the kharab? and who told u i dont consider u as a lebanese citizen and thx to bassil u can even vote now... wherever u live

but u guys living abroad u don't encounter the same problems as we the people living in here! this is why ur approach the situation in a different way
this is what i meant
relax

 

[!Aoune32]

who said u r the ones responsible of the kharab? and who told u i dont consider u as a lebanese citizen and thx to bassil u can even vote now... wherever u live

but u guys living abroad u don't encounter the same problems as we the people living in here! this is why ur approach the situation in a different way
this is what i meant
relax

i was voting long before bassil gave expats this right fa la2 mch thanks to him abadan. let someone like carlos thank him.

 

[Danny Z]

I think PMA holds a large part of the blame. He has been directly a big part of Lebanese politics for 15 years (half of the 30 years FPM likes to blame), with the last three years as president no less. He also was directly part of Lebanese politics in the period that lead directly to Taef, also as president then.

p.s bala tez7eet please

he should resign this will solve the problem, intou fata7el

 

[dyyyy]

you didn't answer my question
HE INVITED THEM SEVERAL TIMES... why didn't they go?
you want him to be at the service of the people, and don't want those specialists to talk to him. And yet he wants you to save them.
I am sorry, but that logic is sinking
You are stuck with the hate of one person, rather than trying to find a solution.

Just so we don't get stuck with the same arguments about if the revolution should have representatived.

A couple of economical activitists started talking about the crisis and what is exactly happening and ways out, like Jad Chaaban and Dan Azzi and Mohammad zbeeb.
They were only tweeting and directly they started making videos on them and conspirscy theories about their plan to become ministers and this is why they're saying this.

So if people are tweeting and this is their feedback, what will happen if they meet the president.

In the interview with the president when PMA asked why don't they name someone, Nicolas Nassif said "inno bitrakboulo malaf" and he was right.

But still the problem is not here, the problem is that the people in the revolution are unified (kind of) on the demands but not on the solutions, this is why no one can represent them before having a legitimate way to show their shares.
what i mean if now communists claim they represent the revolution no one will accept it or of beirut madinati or....

This is why they're focusing on headlines because it's easier to agree on these.

Is there a better way? i don't know in history how revolutions have succeded to have a reference