It's actually the least important of issues the government needs to look into. Clean the water first lol How many people are lining up to marry in a civil court? Unless I'm either too old fashioned or out of touch with the reality of what the Lebanese have turned into, I'd say very little.Great! But can this takecare government issues something important such as the Civil marriage?
It's actually the least important of issues the government needs to look into. Clean the water first lol How many people are lining up to marry in a civil court? Unless I'm either too old fashioned or out of touch with the reality of what the Lebanese have turned into, I'd say very little.
Btw this is a political thread by excellence, i don't understand why it's put in "Lebanon away from politics" .
And im sorry the law presented by Cortbawi is outrageous. It's not acceptable at all.
I don't know of the statistics, but looking around I can see a billion worrisome issues that need much more attention.It's not the least important issue at all. It's one of the fundamentals of turning the country in a civil state and bringing people, from various confessions, together.
If we have other -important or more important- problems, it doesn't mean that we should put aside civil marriage, which is a Right for a lot of people.
And yes, a lot of people are actually having a civil marriage, but sadly out of the country.
Can someone explain to me why, under the proposition made by the Ministry, should a couple who gets married civilly, pay administrative costs/compensation (or however you want to call it) to the religious group of the husband? What exactly entitles a clergy to that money?
Moreover, what are the rules regarding divorce, inheritance, etc. under the civil law?
We don't pay a single cent to clergy. You get the religious ceremony for free.Weddings are a big part of the Clergy's budget - and I think it's the main reason the Clergy has always refused civil marriage. By doing so, you compensate the clergy's loss (manque à gagner) and keep them happy and quiet.
I didn't go through the law in detail, but for me, it should ideally:
- Allow a couple to get married civil
- But also allow the same couple to get married religiously (remember: you can be a believer and a secular)
- Only register the civil wedding (not the religious one)
We don't pay a single cent to clergy. You get the religious ceremony for free.
The problems people are having are with the way conflicts are being handled in religious courts. They have faults in tashree3. Your divorce, for example, can be finalized in a day or in two years, it depends on who handles it. That's wrong.
قرّر وزير الداخلية والبلديات، نهاد المشنوق، طرح موضوع إجراء الزواج المدني في لبنان وتسجيله في وزارة الداخلية، على مجلس الوزراء غداً، لاتخاذ القرار المناسب بهذا الشأن.
I don't know of the statistics, but looking around I can see a billion worrisome issues that need much more attention.
I'm all for turning the country into a civil state, but it's a big job that starts with clean drinking water :biggrin:
Even in a civil court, marriage isn't what brings two confessions together. People of different religions/sects only marry one another if neither cares about his/her religion/sect, or one doesn't care, or both care and one changes to the other's, or if they're Romeo and Juliet lunatics looking for trouble. Considering these points I believe are factual, a short trip to cyprus is doable for the time being (until we get clean water).
You don't care about your religion? Will you marry in a civil court without the religious ceremony?! No way lolMany people on here seem to think that Lebanon's problems will be solved by sectarian marriage.
How are we going to get a civil state when we still vote based on our sects and worship our leaders?
Having civil marriage won't turn us into non-sectarian people. It's not even due to religiosity, Lebanese don't care much about their religions (they curse God when they get angry), sects are more like tribes.