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  • The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

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    I think you are talking about Paul 3indareh. I know that he has a book al Jabal hakikat la tarham but hazihi chadati no.
    Both I didn’t read them coz I lived all that period I have my observations too. The same will be.
    What he have special in that book??
    Eh Paul Andari. He lists events till the ilgha2 war in great detail but biased towards the LF. Don't know how accurate or truthful he is.
     
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    like what is he telling??? I am abroad now. I don’t have access to Arabic keyboard
     
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    Haven't read it. Were in you with Geagea's LF till the 90s?
    Yes the first war LF-LA I was with Geagea against Michel aoun.
    Next war LF-LA I become Aounieh against the traitor Geagea. Everyone who is with Geagea now is modallal
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

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    Yes the first war LF-LA I was with Geagea against Michel aoun.
    Next war LF-LA I become Aounieh against the traitor Geagea. Everyone who is with Geagea now is modallal
    Ya3ne you were still in the LF during 7arb al ta7rir? And before Geagea took over in 86 were you also in the LF?
     
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    Oh great. Can I ask you questions about the war and your time in the LF, when I have the time to research about the civil war?
    Sorry here is in public.
    The thread is not in me it is in geageaist corruption. I have to go. My supervisor in Amn was Moussa Geagea.
    I stop here I am not in interrogatory here.
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

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    Sorry here is in public.
    The thread is not in me it is in geageaist corruption. I have to go. My supervisor in Amn was Moussa Geagea.
    I stop here I am not in interrogatory here.
    I'm not interrogating you, friend. I'm trying to use your experience in the LF to deduce what happened during the war.
     
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    All militias and war lords have their structure of parallel taxation before Taëf. Now under Taëf are in the government we still paying the state taxes and the parallel system taxation as in war time. Proof what happened in electricity generators owners who were protected by politicians. Thoses politicians are the ex warlords and their militiamen.
    FPM tried to return back all that to order fick duck killon Ya3neh killon.
    Stop lying on the Sha3b el mastool.
     
    Aoune32!

    Aoune32!

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    All militias and war lords have their structure of parallel taxation before Taëf. Now under Taëf are in the government we still paying the state taxes and the parallel system taxation as in war time. Proof what happened in electricity generators owners who were protected by politicians. Thoses politicians are the ex warlords and their militiamen.
    FPM tried to return back all that to order fick duck killon Ya3neh killon.
    Stop lying on the Sha3b el mastool.
    Lal asaf the christians never learn. both parties. they destroyed the christian community in the 80-90s and still do so today.
     
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    Lal asaf the christians never learn. both parties. they destroyed the christian community in the 80-90s and still do so today.
    No y’a habibeh Geagea bhim.
    Corruption is militia lords. Read khoury ballach bi motoret el kahraba who protect the thieves el murr, Geagea gemayel, Berri wa joumblatt.
    Why you are saying both parties only geageaist and other militias are wrong maybe bassil did something wrong ( ta ma za3lak wa za33il mhabil el saoura). But you can’t steal our dreams to make a powerful state and nation by saying both parties.
    Now miltiamen and la haririeh el syassieh wa 3omàla souria took Lebanese people as financial hostages.
    FPM, we are fighting to free el Cha3b el mastoul not azim.
    Not blinding people say the truth friend.
    Thank you
     
    Aoune32!

    Aoune32!

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    No y’a habibeh Geagea bhim.
    Corruption is militia lords. Read khoury ballach bi motoret el kahraba who protect the thieves el murr, Geagea gemayel, Berri wa joumblatt.
    Why you are saying both parties only geageaist and other militias are wrong maybe bassil did something wrong ( ta ma za3lak wa za33il mhabil el saoura). But you can’t steal our dreams to make a powerful state and nation by saying both parties.
    Now miltiamen and la haririeh el syassieh wa 3omàla souria took Lebanese people as financial hostages.
    FPM, we are fighting to free el Cha3b el mastoul not azim.
    Not blinding people say the truth friend.
    Thank you
    la2
    they both destroyed the christian community in the 80s and 90s. You say your fighting to free cha3ab l mastoul and henne bi2oulo nafs l chi.. 7ela ba2a..
     
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    la2
    they both destroyed the christian community in the 80s and 90s. You say your fighting to free cha3ab l mastoul and henne bi2oulo nafs l chi.. 7ela ba2a..
    7Ella Logic y’a man.
    Here there are hells angels and mobs in Canada USA and Australia are you paying for the government and for those filthy criminals?? Of course not...
    But if you are an owner of a casino or nude dancers or prostitution bar u want them to protect you from others so you will be part in their system.
    The governments démantèlement of those is a continual war to protect honest people only.
    In Lebanon, All people who want fassad are attacking people who want dawleh. So saoura is not for raghif and well living.
    FPM want dawleh of course yes.
    LF and other militias want dawleh of course not.
    as easy as it is.
    Bikaffeh kizib even that I became FPM after Taëf, it took with me 10 years to accept Lebanese army. Till now I don’t swallow Lebanese army fake glorifying.
    I still LF in me but honest one for Christians Lebanese cause not as Geagea the thief.
    Logic you want dawleh or not all militias don’t want dawleh.
    Wal salamou 3alaykoum
     
    Aoune32!

    Aoune32!

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    7Ella Logic y’a man.
    Here there are hells angels and mobs in Canada USA and Australia are you paying for the government and for those filthy criminals?? Of course not...
    But if you are an owner of a casino or nude dancers or prostitution bar u want them to protect you from others so you will be part in their system.
    The governments démantèlement of those is a continual war to protect honest people only.
    In Lebanon, All people who want fassad are attacking people who want dawleh. So saoura is not for raghif and well living.
    FPM want dawleh of course yes.
    LF and other militias want dawleh of course not.
    as easy as it is.
    Bikaffeh kizib even that I became FPM after Taëf, it took with me 10 years to accept Lebanese army. Till now I don’t swallow Lebanese army fake glorifying.
    I still LF in me but honest one for Christians Lebanese cause not as Geagea the thief.
    Logic you want dawleh or not all militias don’t want dawleh.
    Wal salamou 3alaykoum
    I wish for once in your life you made sense in your post.
    Second, why doesn't the LF want a state? They werent involved in the corruption in the 90s and only came into the gov in 2005. They have nothing to hide buddy. la2 LF want a state and it benefits from one when the state and our LAF is strong. It took you 10 years to accept the LAF? Well that is bad luck for you. We accept it from the start but we want a strong LAF. People in Lebanon if the LAF falls and crumbles same as in 75 they know what they need to do to protect their areas. I hope it doesn't come to that point.

    The issue is not with Taef. The issue is with the people not implementing Taef. The christians remained in the grade 1 posts, Presidency, Army chief, Governor etc. Implement Taef and bring on admin decentralisation with a senate which weakens the Parliament and weakens the central authority which is what the christians want.
     
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