The queen of "Bazella"
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Next they'll enlighten us on how you have a very high probability of getting robbed in Barbes!
How actual women who live in the area feel like ^_^
So many comments I could make but I'll limit myself to the last lady. She and the woman behind the camera are calling each other by their first names, in a way that makes it obvious that they know each other. This is definitely not a journalist interviewing random people on the street.
And lol @ the same lady asking: "what makes them think France is theirs?"
Uhhhh...I guess because they're French and France is their country!
Remember when I talked about the area where I used to live that was full of drug addicts prostitutes and drug dealers, and where I saw cops beat people up every day??? Yup that's it, that's the area!
It has improved drastically from when I moved in in 2011, and when I left in 2015... and I question the motivations behind people making a big fuss about it now! That area has been known for quite some time to be an area where females would probably be harassed, and is generally unsafe, although to be honest I didn't think there was more harassment there than anywhere else in Paris lol! It did not change drastically from before lol! On the contrary actually it did improve quite a bit, at least now when I visit there are no hookers on the street corners and drug dealers have the decency to hide, or maybe some got arrested not sure! It does become worse towards Porte de la chapelle though since there are street vendors on top of everything else
Anyway seriously questioning the fact that this is becoming an issue right now! It was known since 2008 that the area was total shit
Ktashafo l baroud l jame3a!
Chou khass ktachafo el baroud..
There was apetition signed by a women's rights group from that area recently followed up by a protest march because its becoming worse and people cant take it anymore.
thats why its in the spotlight right now
Why u tackling this issues with bad faith?
Because this whole thing was done by LR, the aim is political, and the message they are sending is not reflective of the nature of the area... There is no alley where women are not allowed to walk! Or cafe where women are not allowed to sit, it's mass hysteria!
Once again I lived in the area for 4 years and I still frequent it often! I've never had issues walking alone at night or during the day for that matter! They are painting a very negative image now in order for it to make headlines before the legislatives! The cops are doing their job in the area and as previously stated it has improved quite a lot from when I first moved in!
So yeah this entire thing is a big stink and totally done in bad faith in my opinion
I'm not saying this area is great, I brought it up myself in our discussion in the other thread where you implied that I had no idea what life was like outside of paris' 2 hip neighbourhoods! It's not great, but the fact that it's not great is not remotely related to Syrian refugees which is the basic message they are sending with the original article! This area has been total crap since 2008 and has been known to be total crap since 2008
The LR banked on it, because thats what political parties do, but it was not pushed by the LR. It was a womans group that signed the petition and sent it to hidalgo, pecresse and a whole bunch of other represntatives.
U might hav som emotionnal connection to that area because of reasons but its those people's right to vent their anger and when's a better time than to do it than before the elections.
Iron maiden once again that group of women is LR, I'm not saying that they shouldn't demand improvements for the area what I'm saying is that the picture they are attempting to paint is flawed!
The reason I loved the area despite the fact that it was filled with drug addicts, drug dealers and prostitutes is how diverse it was! And it still is! The stink being made now is making it look like the area is entirely bad, it's not! They're talking about getting robbed, I got robbed 5 times in my life, only one of which was at Marx Dormoy and guess what that was the only time where I screamed for help and people responded instead of just ignoring me! A group of guys chased down my robber and one of them even held his hands so I could kick him lol! Paris, the entirety of Paris is not a safe haven!
I get harrassed every single day, on the street on the subway and just walking by my home... that's a fact that I have to deal with, and guess what out of all the candidates, Macron was the only one who suggested making it illegal for women to be harrassed! Maybe that's why this petition was made and addressed to him...
But this stink, this article and all the big fuss that's being made about it, are painting the area in a very negative light and making it look like the problem are the refugees... This area was scarred with prostitution, drug dealing and just random group of guys getting high on the streets and harrassing women for quite a long time... And it has actually improved in the last couple of years, it was already improving when I moved out!
To make a long story short, this entire thing is being blown out of proportions and used to score some political points... This is not what life is like at the area. And that is why I think this whole thing was stupid, not the petition rather the unprofessional article and the subsequent media coverage!
I get what you're saying abt the media and yea i think it was adressed to him because he brought it up ta ye7echrou as we say but i also do think that u're coming at it with a bit of bias and its understandable i hav a bias towards where i live and hav fun too but my problem eith that is that u're demeaning their problems.
No I'm not demeaning their problem, as stated i get harrassed every single day! Literally every day! Even when I look like total crap... I've even punched two men for thinking they had a right to touch me! I do get what these women are facing, but the problem is not limited for the area! And there really is no such thing as women being prohibited from walking down a particular street or sitting in a cafe!
Fair enough, i know its not the the refugees that are responsible, but usually refugees are dumped into poor areas that are already sufferring from a certain social unbalance and what happens is that they exacerbate that areas problems and get fingers pointed at them.What I am objecting to is the fact that they are painting a very very negative image of the neighbourhood and limiting the problem to Syrian refugees... It's not now and has never been caused by Syrian refugees! What was the big issue in the area in the past were corrupt cops... And that has improved drastically!