Living under Iran Mullahs

fidelio

fidelio

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Isn't Tudeh the Iranian Communist Party that Khomeini crushed then ran to the Soviet Union asking for weapons?

@Lebmonage can you clarify the case for us from the Iranian Regime's point of view?
It is. These people are hated and have been persecuted by everyone.
 
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  • Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Isn't Tudeh the Iranian Communist Party that Khomeini crushed then ran to the Soviet Union asking for weapons?

    @Lebmonage can you clarify the case for us from the Iranian Regime's point of view?
    I dont know really. I dont know much about the intricacies of internal Iranian politics.
     
    SAVO

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    Isn't Tudeh the Iranian Communist Party that Khomeini crushed then ran to the Soviet Union asking for weapons?

    @Lebmonage can you clarify the case for us from the Iranian Regime's point of view?
    Yes exactly.. they killed and tortured and pubblically humiliated its leaders..
    I happen to know many of exiled iranian comunist.. very proud and combattive people.. and true comunist..
    It was a tough party and had a big influence in the northern part of iran.
     
    SAVO

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    It is. These people are hated and have been persecuted by everyone.
    Hated by some ..followed by many..thats the case of any political party ..
    Is it ok that they are killed , tortured and exiled because of their political affiliation?
     
    fidelio

    fidelio

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    Hated by some ..followed by many..thats the case of any political party ..
    Is it ok that they are killed , tortured and exiled because of their political affiliation?
    Hold your sickle comrade i didn't advocate any torture here in this thread yet.
     
    SAVO

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    Hold your sickle comrade i didn't advocate any torture here in this thread yet.
    Its alright..
    The behaviour of the mullah regime is exactly the same of nazi germany when they accused them to set fire in the parliament.. (to discover later it was done by a nazi infilitartor) and that was the only way to pish their fascist totalitarian agenda.. from a class point of view it consilidate the class gerarchy of the society by cutting any workers class political representation.
     
    Rafidi

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    Its alright..
    The behaviour of the mullah regime is exactly the same of nazi germany when they accused them to set fire in the parliament.. (to discover later it was done by a nazi infilitartor) and that was the only way to pish their fascist totalitarian agenda.. from a class point of view it consilidate the class gerarchy of the society by cutting any workers class political representation.
    Isnt the "Mullah regime" allied to communist countries or at least has excellent relations with them? Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, China.

    So something must be wrong with Iranian communists, then. Iran also has excellent relations with the Syrian Baath but not with the Iraqi Baath for known reasons.

    Normally, when religious people complain of oppression or persecution, we can say it is because they have different beliefs or because the oppressor is scared of losing followers.

    When it relates to civil, political or social cases, I am always tempted to ask why did someone do this to you? What did you say or do to provoke him or get a harsh reaction? Those reasons may not necessarily be convincing. But they're reasons nonetheless. Even Hitler had his own excuses for the holocaust. So, for people like me who are ignorant of the Tudeh party, you may want to give us more knowledge about them and why they were targeted. What did they do?
     
    SAVO

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    Isnt the "Mullah regime" allied to communist countries or at least has excellent relations with them? Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, China.

    So something must be wrong with Iranian communists, then. Iran also has excellent relations with the Syrian Baath but not with the Iraqi Baath for known reasons.

    Normally, when religious people complain of oppression or persecution, we can say it is because they have different beliefs or because the oppressor is scared of losing followers.

    When it relates to civil, political or social cases, I am always tempted to ask why did someone do this to you? What did you say or do to provoke him or get a harsh reaction? Those reasons may not necessarily be convincing. But they're reasons nonetheless. Even Hitler had his own excuses for the holocaust. So, for people like me who are ignorant of the Tudeh party, you may want to give us more knowledge about them and why they were targeted. What did they do?

    Nah iran is not allied with communist countries.there could be some tactical common interest here and there..
    Regarding the iran comunist party.. it is a marxist-leninist party like any normal comunist party ..its khomeini who said : no east nor west , only islam ..he adopted the third line position..
    Anyway thats not the point ..
    Al baath is a corrupted ideology wether in syria or in iraq.. have nothing to do with marxism..
    Among arabs gheddafi was the closest to socialist ideas..applied on the tribal reality of lybia .. most of comunist parties aroind the world support the iranian comunist party. And they are always invited to any international meeting..
     
    Rafidi

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    Nah iran is not allied with communist countries.there could be some tactical common interest here and there..
    Regarding the iran comunist party.. it is a marxist-leninist party like any normal comunist party ..its khomeini who said : no east nor west , only islam ..he adopted the third line position..
    Anyway thats not the point ..
    Al baath is a corrupted ideology wether in syria or in iraq.. have nothing to do with marxism..
    Among arabs gheddafi was the closest to socialist ideas..applied on the tribal reality of lybia .. most of comunist parties aroind the world support the iranian comunist party. And they are always invited to any international meeting..
    So why were they targeted in Iran. Dont be shy. Tell us. I dont want to ask Google and then present the reasons. And then that could be misinterpreted that I am taking sides. And then you'd take it personal.
     
    SAVO

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    So why were they targeted in Iran. Dont be shy. Tell us. I dont want to ask Google and then present the reasons. And then that could be misinterpreted that I am taking sides. And then you'd take it personal.

    If iran seeked alliance with comunist countries. The khomeinist could share the power with the communist after the revolution since they both contributed to the revolution and comunist werent hostile to khomeini..but the model of the state thorized by khomeini would never accept an atheist marxist-leninist party to share the power with them..
    And no war with iraq wouls have token place since comunist have an excellent relationship with soviet union so that coild contribute to resolve the issues by dialogue..
    But as you know , things went differently.. khomeini was to present islam as an alternative to socialism vs communism... but , the fact is , that his model is no more than islamic style capitalism..

    You want to hear more ?
    The support of taliban in afganistan against the soviet .. their intervention in bosnia alongside the Nato..
    Iranian are double gamers dude..
     
    Rafidi

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    If iran seeked alliance with comunist countries. The khomeinist could share the power with the communist after the revolution since they both contributed to the revolution and comunist werent hostile to khomeini..but the model of the state thorized by khomeini would never accept an atheist marxist-leninist party to share the power with them..
    And no war with iraq wouls have token place since comunist have an excellent relationship with soviet union so that coild contribute to resolve the issues by dialogue..
    But as you know , things went differently.. khomeini was to present islam as an alternative to socialism vs communism... but , the fact is , that his model is no more than islamic style capitalism..

    You want to hear more ?
    The support of taliban in afganistan against the soviet .. their intervention in bosnia alongside the Nato..
    Iranian are double gamers dude..
    How many percent of Iranians were atheists/communits?
     
    SAVO

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    I tell u that americans used them i n afghanistan and later kicked their a** ..same thing happened in Bosnia..
    In syria putin handled the situation and put iranians in their place. ( allowing israelies to hit them in syria as a reminder for the red lines that they should never cross) ..

    Regarding the numbers u can ask @Nimaa he knows better than me.. i am not iranian ..
     
    Rafidi

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    I tell u that americans used them i n afghanistan and later kicked their a** ..same thing happened in Bosnia..
    In syria putin handled the situation and put iranians in their place. ( allowing israelies to hit them in syria as a reminder for the red lines that they should never cross) ..

    Regarding the numbers u can ask @Nimaa he knows better than me.. i am not iranian ..
    So you want a band of godless communists to impose communism on an Islamic nation. The way the Soviet Union outlawed Christianity in its former satellite states. And you feel that is fantastic?
     
    SAVO

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    So you want a band of godless communists to impose communism on an Islamic nation. The way the Soviet Union outlawed Christianity in its former satellite states. And you feel that is fantastic?
    Well the fact is its the other way around..its the ayatollah who are imposing their khomeinism shia on iranian people ..
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Well the fact is its the other way around..its the ayatollah who are imposing their khomeinism shia on iranian people ..
    There is nothing like Khomeinism. Do you care to tell us about what you call Khomeinism?
     
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