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Living Under Shia's (الشيعية السياسيه) Dominance over Lebanon

agnostic

Legendary Member
that being said by someone who:
1- Made alliance with Hariri
2- Ditched his Ibraa Musta7eel
3- Went from 'secularism' to 'blocking the appointment of Forest guards for sectarian reasons '
4- Failing, over a span of ten years, to solve the electricity problem instead went for renting ships and awarding the contract to Samir Doumit that even his closest allies stood against
5- Blocking attempts to modify the confessional political system
6- Failing to fix the judicial system
7- Appointing the worst minister of economy Lebanon has ever witnessed at worst times
8- Assisting in letting a war criminal and an Israeli agent to flee
9- Preventing the agreement on an advanced electoral law and pushing for a hybrid fully sectarian one that allowed the corrupt political class to renew itself
10- Having businessmen and billionaires on their electoral lists who later on flipped and switched sides
11- Proposing shitty plans in the Ministry of Energy just to claim a victory in the Christian areas
12- blocking the exploration of gas fields in Lebanon by insisting on only exploring block number 4 opposite to Batroun. % years that prevented Lebanon from a much needed dollars at the moment
13- Benefiting from Riad Salameh financial engineering ****ed up approach
14- Sucking up to Berri whenever needed and blaming HA and Amal also whenever needed to cover up for their failure
15- Blocking reforms in the government and the parliament once for sectarian reasons and other times to claim a victory and an accomplishment instead of an ally

Into we27een... we27een kteer.

HA never protected Berri. What HA did is not confronting Berri. But please, remind us with the number of suits that your party filed against Berri? and where did HA blocked any of them?

Also, if Berri was protected by HA as you claim by using the sectarian card, please remind us who strengthened that card? Who used the sectarian rhetoric over and over ? Who stepped on the constitution and came up with the genius idea that the strongest among his sect should occupy the state's highest posts? These sectarian policies and ideas are what strengthened not only Berri but also Hariri. Ntek SeaAb.. :*
Waino @SeaAb to reply.

Did he lose his tongue? Salemto.
 

The_FPMer

Active Member
I mean one always tries to strive for peace, unity, peaceful solutions etc... you don’t go all out war from day 1. Those who opposed HA from the get go turned out to be right, but for me at least, it was absolutely necessary to try, and FPM offered that option. Now that it failed, I no longer support it... but it had to be tried.
Ana elet baddak tjewib hek. What FPM had in mind and what LF had in mind are two wrong plans and modes of thinking that will ultimately lead to war. FPM with its total capitulation and LF with its complete antagonization of an entire sect.
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
Sorry ya mawlena, I've had enough. Menne w 3leye, even if it's politically stupid, as @Rafidi keeps saying, It's time for to end this futile alliance. FPM's goal was never to just get to the presidential seat and do nothing in terms of reform and building a state. NB is clearly the head the mafia state in Lebanon and therefore, 7aleef Berri can never be 7aleef FPM. No one worked harder to break the alliance than M8 and they succeeded.

This political deadlock where no one loses has to change. I am ready to admit that FPM has lost the battle. Khalas khalle whoever won, ye7kom la7alo, even if includes PMA resigning min lyom.

Ya @SeaAb When did I ever make this statement:

"It's time for to end this futile alliance."

Shu khasneh? I've always maintained I do not speak as a partisan and I dont belong to any party and I dont speak on their behalf. I speak as a Lebanese and as a Shia based on interests I think serve my country and my sect.
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
that being said by someone who:
1- Made alliance with Hariri
2- Ditched his Ibraa Musta7eel
3- Went from 'secularism' to 'blocking the appointment of Forest guards for sectarian reasons '
4- Failing, over a span of ten years, to solve the electricity problem instead went for renting ships and awarding the contract to Samir Doumit that even his closest allies stood against
5- Blocking attempts to modify the confessional political system
6- Failing to fix the judicial system
7- Appointing the worst minister of economy Lebanon has ever witnessed at worst times
8- Assisting in letting a war criminal and an Israeli agent to flee
9- Preventing the agreement on an advanced electoral law and pushing for a hybrid fully sectarian one that allowed the corrupt political class to renew itself
10- Having businessmen and billionaires on their electoral lists who later on flipped and switched sides
11- Proposing shitty plans in the Ministry of Energy just to claim a victory in the Christian areas
12- blocking the exploration of gas fields in Lebanon by insisting on only exploring block number 4 opposite to Batroun. % years that prevented Lebanon from a much needed dollars at the moment
13- Benefiting from Riad Salameh financial engineering ****ed up approach
14- Sucking up to Berri whenever needed and blaming HA and Amal also whenever needed to cover up for their failure
15- Blocking reforms in the government and the parliament once for sectarian reasons and other times to claim a victory and an accomplishment instead of an ally

Into we27een... we27een kteer.

HA never protected Berri. What HA did is not confronting Berri. But please, remind us with the number of suits that your party filed against Berri? and where did HA blocked any of them?

Also, if Berri was protected by HA as you claim by using the sectarian card, please remind us who strengthened that card? Who used the sectarian rhetoric over and over ? Who stepped on the constitution and came up with the genius idea that the strongest among his sect should occupy the state's highest posts? These sectarian policies and ideas are what strengthened not only Berri but also Hariri. Ntek SeaAb.. :*

This rightly describes them:

"we27een... we27een kteer".
 

Genius

Legendary Member
that being said by someone who:
1- Made alliance with Hariri
2- Ditched his Ibraa Musta7eel
3- Went from 'secularism' to 'blocking the appointment of Forest guards for sectarian reasons '
4- Failing, over a span of ten years, to solve the electricity problem instead went for renting ships and awarding the contract to Samir Doumit that even his closest allies stood against
5- Blocking attempts to modify the confessional political system
6- Failing to fix the judicial system
7- Appointing the worst minister of economy Lebanon has ever witnessed at worst times
8- Assisting in letting a war criminal and an Israeli agent to flee
9- Preventing the agreement on an advanced electoral law and pushing for a hybrid fully sectarian one that allowed the corrupt political class to renew itself
10- Having businessmen and billionaires on their electoral lists who later on flipped and switched sides
11- Proposing shitty plans in the Ministry of Energy just to claim a victory in the Christian areas
12- blocking the exploration of gas fields in Lebanon by insisting on only exploring block number 4 opposite to Batroun. % years that prevented Lebanon from a much needed dollars at the moment
13- Benefiting from Riad Salameh financial engineering ****ed up approach
14- Sucking up to Berri whenever needed and blaming HA and Amal also whenever needed to cover up for their failure
15- Blocking reforms in the government and the parliament once for sectarian reasons and other times to claim a victory and an accomplishment instead of an ally

Into we27een... we27een kteer.

HA never protected Berri. What HA did is not confronting Berri. But please, remind us with the number of suits that your party filed against Berri? and where did HA blocked any of them?

Also, if Berri was protected by HA as you claim by using the sectarian card, please remind us who strengthened that card? Who used the sectarian rhetoric over and over ? Who stepped on the constitution and came up with the genius idea that the strongest among his sect should occupy the state's highest posts? These sectarian policies and ideas are what strengthened not only Berri but also Hariri. Ntek SeaAb.. :*

That list is nothing compared to the list anyone can make about the duo. Allez dégage.
 

Apostate

Your will, my hands.
Orange Room Supporter
As a Fetanje, I have to say that @elAshtar mega-spanked @SeaAb and FPMers... what will @SeaAb 's response be?

 

The_FPMer

Active Member
I have to say it's interesting to see @Walidos, the original "Mr. Ta3ayush", go from being HA's apologist to its most staunch critic in just a matter of days.

Ma heik @The_FPMer?
He's the equivalent of the white liberals who advocate for more immigration and diversity until their neighborhoods get diversified. They'll keep denying the obvious la 7adit ma yousal el sa7sou7 3al ra2be. Then the introspection starts.
 

Walidos

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
What instances are you referring to. Be specific.

I'm sure there isnt any we haven't touched on. And none of them fall outside of our rights as citizens of Lebanon. Therefore the demands are rightfully ours to make.
No, they are not your right. You don’t decide what is your right and what is not.
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
No, they are not your right. You don’t decide what is your right and what is not.

Ufff...who decides what my rights are? You? Someone else? Another sect? Another sectarian leader? Wh9e exactly? You sound as if we are your property and you decide how and what to do with us. And you arent ashamed to claim we are dominating?
 

Walidos

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I have to say it's interesting to see @Walidos, the original "Mr. Ta3ayush", go from being HA's apologist to its most staunch critic in just a matter of days.

Ma heik @The_FPMer?
I am still very much with ta3ayosh, But I have always told you I look at what’s happening and make up my own mind on what is right or wrong and support the right. in the case of HA, who are not absolute evil btw, it is now quite clear that there is no scenario where they would let go of their weapons, at all, because the intent is not Israel but rather total control of lebanon. hence why they wont get my Support.
 

Walidos

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Ufff...who decides what my rights are? You? Someone else? Another sect? Another sectarian leader? Wh9e exactly? You sound as if we are your property and you decide how and what to do with us. And you arent ashamed to claim we are dominating?
Everybody... if we are to share the house we love in, everybody agrees on what the rights are.
 

Robin Hood

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Let each sect have it's country and do what's best for it.

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GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I am still very much with ta3ayosh, But I have always told you I look at what’s happening and make up my own mind on what is right or wrong and support the right. in the case of HA, who are not absolute evil btw, it is now quite clear that there is no scenario where they would let go of their weapons, at all, because the intent is not Israel but rather total control of lebanon. hence why they wont get my Support.

Nothing wrong with what you said. However, this is not the first time HA shows its real intentions.
So, I find the timing a little suspicious, if a little late.
 
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