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vicking747

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It is Israel’s mess that needs to be resolved while respecting the will of the Palestinians
 
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    vicking747

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    Have you considered that from Israel's perspective, that mess is already as good as resolved?
    What people can be without morality nor values ? What for all these technologies, these advancements and modernity if it is built on injustice ?
    No one is asking Israel to dissolve, no one is asking to threw the Jews in the sea and no one is asking anymore for eternal wars.
    Israel has a created an existential threat to Lebanon by directly generating the exodus of the Palestinian people which some came to Lebanon. You have nothing to do with that ?

    Act as a normal nation, have values and morals and stop using your US backers and military power to impose injustice whether it is in Palestine, Lebanon or surrounding countries.

    I always thought that Jews are smarter than anyone else but I also know that Jews are their own enemy. Same shot happened since last 2000 years whereas every 200 years there were massacres against the Jews.

    Israel should be benefiting from its advanced power to find a honest peace that brings justice to its neighbours while Palestinians rights are preserved. You do this and you win REAL peace and the halt of all hostile groups including Iran.

    so for once be smart and invest in the very long term
     
    lebnan_lilkel

    lebnan_lilkel

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    Palestinians in Lebanon are part of the corrupt Palestinian Liberation Organisation. Muhmoud Abbas. No one wants them. They should enjoy living in a modern Israeli state or immigrate to the west. Very ferile culture issues.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    What people can be without morality nor values ? What for all these technologies, these advancements and modernity if it is built on injustice ?
    No one is asking Israel to dissolve, no one is asking to threw the Jews in the sea and no one is asking anymore for eternal wars.
    Israel has a created an existential threat to Lebanon by directly generating the exodus of the Palestinian people which some came to Lebanon. You have nothing to do with that ?

    Act as a normal nation, have values and morals and stop using your US backers and military power to impose injustice whether it is in Palestine, Lebanon or surrounding countries.

    I always thought that Jews are smarter than anyone else but I also know that Jews are their own enemy. Same shot happened since last 2000 years whereas every 200 years there were massacres against the Jews.

    Israel should be benefiting from its advanced power to find a honest peace that brings justice to its neighbours while Palestinians rights are preserved. You do this and you win REAL peace and the halt of all hostile groups including Iran.

    so for once be smart and invest in the very long term
    Your BS aside let's face the reality - you've nothing to offer to Israel, keep making demands ...
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    No, this is your definition of peace. Peace means I don’t have to worry what would happen tomorrow, peace means there is no political attacks on a daily basis against each other, peace is that we live in full harmony as normal countries do.
    Let me ask you a question, why are you not ready to sign peace with Lebanon? What are you worried of ? What is the cost for you to do so ?
    Hezbollah and most of the anti Israel parties would certainly backup peace based on honest and fair criteria.
    As Christians, it is a duty to make peace with other human beings hence you will always find a counterpart in Lebanon ready to turn a page and start from scratch on acceptable basis for future generations

    But you are not interested, and I don’t really understand why
    Hizbullah is not sovereign, they are a proxy of Iran. They are not the decision makers.

    Iran's geopolitical game includes conflict with Israel. You're looking at this from a narrow perspective.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    What people can be without morality nor values ? What for all these technologies, these advancements and modernity if it is built on injustice ?
    No one is asking Israel to dissolve, no one is asking to threw the Jews in the sea and no one is asking anymore for eternal wars.
    Israel has a created an existential threat to Lebanon by directly generating the exodus of the Palestinian people which some came to Lebanon. You have nothing to do with that ?

    Act as a normal nation, have values and morals and stop using your US backers and military power to impose injustice whether it is in Palestine, Lebanon or surrounding countries.

    I always thought that Jews are smarter than anyone else but I also know that Jews are their own enemy. Same shot happened since last 2000 years whereas every 200 years there were massacres against the Jews.

    Israel should be benefiting from its advanced power to find a honest peace that brings justice to its neighbours while Palestinians rights are preserved. You do this and you win REAL peace and the halt of all hostile groups including Iran.

    so for once be smart and invest in the very long term
    The Christians of the Middle East have been doing that for centuries. How well are you doing? Have the attacks stopped? You must not know any Copts.

    Don't be naive. They're hostile against Jews, not against Israel, because hatred against Jews is religiously ordained. It's part of their propaganda.
     
    Steven Gerrard

    Steven Gerrard

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    Hizbullah is also Lebanon's problem. They're a nuisance to Israel.
    Tayyeb, remove HA and another will take its place as long as you don't compromise with us regarding the Palestinian refugee issue.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Tayyeb, remove HA and another will take its place as long as you don't compromise with us regarding the Palestinian refugees issue.
    Israel will never agree to return any Palestinian whether to Israel proper, Gaza, or Judea & Samaria. They're trying to get rid of the Palestinians. There's nothing to compromise on here - Israel will never agree to help you with your existential threat problem by making it their own. It's a non-starter, and part of Hizbullah's propaganda.

    Lemon posted some practical solutions, but Lebanon will never pursue them because Hizbullah, proxy of Iran, rules Lebanon and peace with Israel is not in the interest of Iran.
     
    CitizenOfTheRepublic

    CitizenOfTheRepublic

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    Israel will never agree to return any Palestinian whether to Israel proper, Gaza, or Judea & Samaria. They're trying to get rid of the Palestinians. There's nothing to compromise on here - Israel will never agree to help you with your existential threat problem by making it their own. It's a non-starter, and part of Hizbullah's propaganda.

    Lemon posted some practical solutions, but Lebanon will never pursue them because Hizbullah, proxy of Iran, rules Lebanon and peace with Israel is not in the interest of Iran.
    Aside from your delusion of grandeur, Israel knows HA can become a much bigger problem than it already is. So to say it has nothing to gain from peace is typical Bibi bravado detached from reality. As is btw your wish to maintain the West Bank status quo or kick all of the Palestinians there out.
    Israel will find a new home for the Palestinians refugees in Lebanon, you can count on that.
     
    Steven Gerrard

    Steven Gerrard

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    Israel will never agree to return any Palestinian whether to Israel proper, Gaza, or Judea & Samaria. They're trying to get rid of the Palestinians. There's nothing to compromise on here - Israel will never agree to help you with your existential threat problem by making it their own. It's a non-starter, and part of Hizbullah's propaganda.

    Lemon posted some practical solutions, but Lebanon will never pursue them because Hizbullah, proxy of Iran, rules Lebanon and peace with Israel is not in the interest of Iran.
    Lakan, Israel will never see peace with Lebanon. The Palestinian Refugee issue is of the making of Israel not Lebanon, Palestinians did not come into our country voluntarily like the Armenians. so either Israel take accountability for their actions or they will forever face hostilities from their neighbors.

    Lemon did not post any practical solutions. Most of you are missing the big picture. Even if Iran and HA did not exist we wouldn't have peace unless the main issue is resolved between both parties.
     
    CitizenOfTheRepublic

    CitizenOfTheRepublic

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    Lakan, Israel will never see peace with Lebanon. The Palestinian Refugee issue is of the making of Israel not Lebanon, Palestinians did not come into our country voluntarily like the Armenians. so either Israel take accountability for their actions or they will forever face hostilities from their neighbors.

    Lemon did not post any practical solutions. Most of you are missing the big picture. Even if Iran and HA did not exist we wouldn't have peace unless the main issue is resolved between both parties.
    Maybe Bibi will sign a Lebanese-Israeli peace with Trump similar to the comedy show of a few month back.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Aside from your delusion of grandeur, Israel knows HA can become a much bigger problem than it already is. So to say it has nothing to gain from peace is typical Bibi bravado detached from reality. As is btw your wish to maintain the West Bank status quo or kick all of the Palestinians there out.
    Israel will find a new home for the Palestinians refugees in Lebanon, you can count on that.
    If you're dumb enough to accept them and arm them, well, that's on you and I think you can count on it, too
     
    CitizenOfTheRepublic

    CitizenOfTheRepublic

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    If you're dumb enough to accept them and arm them, well, that's on you and I think you can count on it, too
    Existential threats can bring down the temple on everyone, a Jew like you surely is very familiar with Samson.
     
    Muki

    Muki

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    Lakan, Israel will never see peace with Lebanon. The Palestinian Refugee issue is of the making of Israel not Lebanon, Palestinians did not come into our country voluntarily like the Armenians. so either Israel take accountability for their actions or they will forever face hostilities from their neighbors.

    Lemon did not post any practical solutions. Most of you are missing the big picture. Even if Iran and HA did not exist we wouldn't have peace unless the main issue is resolved between both parties.
    As far as Israel is concerned, Arabs started the war and are responsible for the refugees. Seeing as they are on your land, the issue for Israel is as good as resolved. A peace agreement can be good but history has taught the Jews never to trust the Arabs. The more you give them, the more they'll want. There's nothing you can do or say to convince Israel that you won't legalize some other terrorist organization to launch attacks against Israel. You seem to be in the habit. There's nothing you can even do about the terrorist organization that exists today lol, which is becoming a bigger problem for you by the day. A temporary nuisance and a fast recovery is better than legitimizing the use of your stupidity as a method of extortion against Israel.
     
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    Lemon

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    What people can be without morality nor values ? What for all these technologies, these advancements and modernity if it is built on injustice ?
    World history is a series of injustices. We'd all still be hunter gatherers if history cared about "morality" or "values". The reason why those concepts even exist is because self-entitled kings thought they should have more than others, and used some of the stolen wealth to allow philosophers and priests to ponder on such topics. The world is imperfect, and we can only strive to make it better for the future, not fix the past.

    No one is asking Israel to dissolve, no one is asking to threw the Jews in the sea and no one is asking anymore for eternal wars.
    Israel has a created an existential threat to Lebanon by directly generating the exodus of the Palestinian people which some came to Lebanon. You have nothing to do with that ?

    Act as a normal nation, have values and morals and stop using your US backers and military power to impose injustice whether it is in Palestine, Lebanon or surrounding countries.
    Nice appeal, but in real world bad actors exists and convincing them with mere words is hardly going to work.

    I always thought that Jews are smarter than anyone else but I also know that Jews are their own enemy. Same shot happened since last 2000 years whereas every 200 years there were massacres against the Jews.

    Israel should be benefiting from its advanced power to find a honest peace that brings justice to its neighbours while Palestinians rights are preserved. You do this and you win REAL peace and the halt of all hostile groups including Iran.

    so for once be smart and invest in the very long term
    In the very long term, we'll all live in space or something and there is no telling what the world will look like. But in a not-so-long term, Israel seems to be winning. Time is on its side, all it has to do is wait and keep enroaching Palestinian territory little by little. Meanwhile, the "refugee" population in Lebanon is growing and becoming all the bigger problem. There is very little incentive for Israel to change its course and sudden moral enlightment is not likely to happen either.
     
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