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Massive Explosion in Beirut | 04-08-2020

Walidos

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The laws. Whatever information he could receive about these investigations, he is not allowed to repeat it.
What law is that? Aslan bi Ayya sifa he gets any further information which any other citizen is not entitled to? And since when did he care for the law?
 

Walidos

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Secret of investigation.


Like many others get it. About his title, SHN is the leader of the Resistance.



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HA are the ones who are the most cautious in respecting the Lebanese laws.
If it is secret why would others expose it if not him?
leader of the resistance is not a title, wou Elefteriades is the emperor of Nowheristan... does he get the “secret” report? SHN has no standing to receive anything and if he does, he is under no obligation to not divulge it.

HA break lebanese laws at so many levels it’s not even funny! Armed militia outside the control of the government, they pay zero taxes on money they receive from foreign entities, they smuggle weapons into the country, they protect criminals from prosecution, they send their militia to fight wars on foreign lands... Hayda just a small number of areas where HA break lebanese law... don’t kid yourself - HA are outlaws.
 

Rafidi

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This is literally "akel kharah" actually this is the definition of "akel kharah"

They say based on informations but they never tell you what this information is!?
This is called playing politics and withholding important informations from the public they claim to hold!

So either yeklou kharah or tell us about this "ma3loumet"..

If you have hard timme publishing it in your name for political reasons.. there are many ways to publish this info anonymously!

If not then this news from manar (hizb iran propaganda machine) is up to any kind of speculation one of them that Hizb-Iran trying remove any zionist involvement from the incident!

You sound like a Daeshi tonight. Calling Hezballah with a nane reflective of your stupid extremist mentality. You'd sound cool if you were in a cave along with some other Daeshis. Not where civilised people discuss.
 

Walidos

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The Judge is sovereign to identify what is good to say and what is not. The LA can publish summary in agreement with the judge.


Taef. The book of our living together.
Tayyib so Shou 2ilak ta3meh to throw speculations out there when he says nothing and the judge is saying nothing? He is no better than the ones accusing HA of the explosion. Same coin, different sides.

Taef does not include a leader of the resistance role... it is a self given and foreign enforced role, wether one supports HA or not.
 

agnostic

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Tayyib so Shou 2ilak ta3meh to throw speculations out there when he says nothing and the judge is saying nothing? He is no better than the ones accusing HA of the explosion. Same coin, different sides.

Taef does not include a leader of the resistance role... it is a self given and foreign enforced role, wether one supports HA or not.

1- 5 months have passed. And the Judge Sawwan has put himself in stand by and freeze the investigation. In addition, he decided to not look after who was behind bringing the Ammonium Nitrate and also the fireworks that exploded.

2- SHN didn't throw any baseless accusations. But as always your words and the shit are same coin...

3- Taef, the book of our living together, allowed the Resistance. And HA with its mighty achievements imposed itself as the de facto Resistance.
 

Rafidi

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Tayyib so Shou 2ilak ta3meh to throw speculations out there when he says nothing and the judge is saying nothing? He is no better than the ones accusing HA of the explosion. Same coin, different sides.

Taef does not include a leader of the resistance role... it is a self given and foreign enforced role, wether one supports HA or not.

So many assassinations had taken place in Lebanon and every time parties belonging to the March 14 alliance used to switch within weeks from accusing one political rival to accusing another of responsibility. They even justified their stupidity and politicization of assassinations by saying their accusations are "political accusations" or "ittiham siyasey". A party you've continously barked at recently for God knows what motives, has an opinion or stance on a major event that claimed the lives of its own people and supporters and followers. And you have problem with that. And you are asking stupid questions that why should they have this opinion or speak in this or that way. But who are you little midget to control how people speak or impose what and how they should speak?

Why dont you be focused on the security agencies to publish their investigations for the public to know the truth? Arent you a proponent of the state and government control? Why are government agencies hiding investigations? If your barking is right, let these govt agencies publish their findings and disprove whatever SHN had said or almanar has reported. You're a foul creature, little midget!
 

Rafidi

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Who isn’t allowing SHN to say something? his interests maybe? That of his allies? If the army commander is indeed the evil person you seem to portray him as, why not bypass him and just reveal the info?
Rubbish. This was a political speech. He kept things vague and hinted at something he knows nobody is able to get to, and relies on his loyal troops to spread speculations which only furthers the truth.

He owes you no responsibility to reveal anything to you.

The bodies that owe every Lebanese an explanation are those tasked with making findings. These are the LA and ISF. The government tasked them and they carried out the task. Our job is to put pressure on them to know the truth and make sure their findings are revealed. That is not a fault if someone is asking security bodies to reveal their findings. This is the right of every Lebanese citizen, especially those who lost loved ones. It is not like if SHN reveals anything you will believe and praise him. You will find one more excuse to keep barking. You would even condemn him for revealing any info and not waiting for the security agencies to. And your incomtent security agencies, including the army led by the politician Joseph Aoun doesnt want to reveal the info. He is hiding it to make a case with his beloved for his political/presidential ambitions perhaps. Someone should whisper into his ear inno ma ra7 yshem el ra2aseh. Tawileh shway 3a ra2ebto law tolo metrain.
 

O Brother

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You sound like a Daeshi tonight. Calling Hezballah with a nane reflective of your stupid extremist mentality. You'd sound cool if you were in a cave along with some other Daeshis. Not where civilised people discuss.

hala2 enta you think of yourself as civilized person?
The level of cursing you lower yourself to in this forum is not just laughable but shows the kind of crazy person you are!

You can't even handle anyone criticizing the side you support and always end either cursing in a very vulgar way or becomes extremely sectarian with very fool sectarian language showing your true colors!

the fun part that you really think you are better than the dawa3ish while you support terrorists like bachar :lol:
lii sta7ou metou!
 

Walidos

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1- 5 months have passed. And the Judge Sawwan has put himself in stand by and freeze the investigation. In addition, he decided to not look after who was behind bringing the Ammonium Nitrate and also the fireworks that exploded.

2- SHN didn't throw any baseless accusations. But as always your words and the shit are same coin...

3- Taef, the book of our living together, allowed the Resistance. And HA with its mighty achievements imposed itself as the de facto Resistance.
1- The judge maybe an asshole, but he is the asshole that picked it up after the berri asshole finally reclused himself for conflict of interest. God knows who is now threatening Sawan , but if I were a betting man, I would bet on Berri, the thug in chief.

2- SHN did not accuse anyone, is exactly what I am saying, so if my words are shot then so are his :) his speech was for loca consumption. He added nothing to the conversation except send brainwashed people on a speculation frenzy.

3- Taef does not allow for a resistance. HA kept their weapons because it pleases the Syrian occupation and their Iranian allies. HA is completely out of the context of the state. It has no operation that is within the boundary of the lebanese state. HA’s achievements were very good against Israel, I am not debating this. Their blunders internally are another matter, and the fact there is no criteria for them to give up their weapons is a clear threat to any lebanese who aspires to a sovereign ans strong state.
 

Rafidi

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1- The judge maybe an asshole, but he is the asshole that picked it up after the berri asshole finally reclused himself for conflict of interest. God knows who is now threatening Sawan , but if I were a betting man, I would bet on Berri, the thug in chief.

2- SHN did not accuse anyone, is exactly what I am saying, so if my words are shot then so are his :) his speech was for loca consumption. He added nothing to the conversation except send brainwashed people on a speculation frenzy.

3- Taef does not allow for a resistance. HA kept their weapons because it pleases the Syrian occupation and their Iranian allies. HA is completely out of the context of the state. It has no operation that is within the boundary of the lebanese state. HA’s achievements were very good against Israel, I am not debating this. Their blunders internally are another matter, and the fact there is no criteria for them to give up their weapons is a clear threat to any lebanese who aspires to a sovereign ans strong state.

Look at this clown. If he and his like contest an election, he might not get a few hundred votes. Go contest election and show us how many votes you can get. But the most popular party that gets the most votes across Lebanon is not part of the state. What state is he talking about and if elections and votes are not enough to be part of the state, i don't know what is. Some of his likes make similar BS posts on twitter. The number of words in their tweets are usually more than the number of likes and retweet they get.

Why not tell us when Israehell would give up the wepaons it used to invade and occupy us? Has the threat of their weapons and power they used to occupy us eroded? I personally dont care what Taef allows, assuming you are correct in your false claim. I care what the people allow. Taef, like every agreement, treaty and the constitution itself were never approved through a referendum by the people. They were adopted by sectarian, feudal and war lords and imposed on the people. In all the happenings since independence, the most democratic and popular reality in Lebanon is the resistance supported and defended by most Lebanese from all sects.
 
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agnostic

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1- The judge maybe an asshole, but he is the asshole that picked it up after the berri asshole finally reclused himself for conflict of interest. God knows who is now threatening Sawan , but if I were a betting man, I would bet on Berri, the thug in chief.

2- SHN did not accuse anyone, is exactly what I am saying, so if my words are shot then so are his :) his speech was for loca consumption. He added nothing to the conversation except send brainwashed people on a speculation frenzy.

3- Taef does not allow for a resistance. HA kept their weapons because it pleases the Syrian occupation and their Iranian allies. HA is completely out of the context of the state. It has no operation that is within the boundary of the lebanese state. HA’s achievements were very good against Israel, I am not debating this. Their blunders internally are another matter, and the fact there is no criteria for them to give up their weapons is a clear threat to any lebanese who aspires to a sovereign ans strong state.

1. Berri is bad and corrupt. Bass shu 5asso in the topic here and which is that Sawwan accepted to be missioned to investigate about Beirut port explosion and after 5 months he decided to freeze the investigation and to ignore those who brought the materials that exploded.

2. SHN gave his opinion and said what he is allowed to say about it and pushed the investigation to unfreeze and go in right track.

3. Taef allowed the Resistance.
 

Rafidi

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Taef, like every agreement, treaty and the constitution itself were never approved through a referendum by the people. They were adopted by sectarian, feudal and war lords and imposed on the people. In all the happenings since independence, the most democratic and popular reality in Lebanon is the resistance supported and defended by most Lebanese from all sects.
 

Walidos

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1. Berri is bad and corrupt. Bass shu 5asso in the topic here and which is that Sawwan accepted to be missioned to investigate about Beirut port explosion and after 5 months he decided to freeze the investigation and to ignore those who brought the materials that exploded.

2. SHN gave his opinion and said what he is allowed to say about it and pushed the investigation to unfreeze and go in right track.

3. Taef allowed the Resistance.
The judge investigating was ouweidat, Sawan picked up after ouweidat finally bowed to pressure and stepped down after conflict of interest. Ouweidat is Berri’s guy. God knows what they have on Sawan, or if he was threatened.

mish mikhtelfin 3ala what SHN said. In fact he said nothing important in that regard, his hints are for local consumption. inno make the records public. It’s like Hariri saying we want to form a government or Bert saying we want to stop corruption, joumblat and geagea saying we want to build a country and Bassil saying want to build a modern political party... except none of them is doing that...!

Taef called for disarming all militias, the HA bid3a was concocted as the shiites and Muslims shared the spoils of war and the Syrian occupation wanted to please it’s ally Iran.
 

Rafidi

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"حمرنة الجيش اللبناني وراء انفجار المرفأ"














2021 - كانون الثاني - 09
"ليبانون ديبايت"

في ظلّ صمتِ المحقّق العدليّ والقضاء عن وضعِ اللّبنانيّين في صورةِ ما توصّلت إليه التّحقيقات في إنفجار مرفأ بيروت أسوةً بما يحصل في باقي دول العالم، يعمدُ بعضُ السّياسيّين والإعلاميّين إلى إعتلاءِ المنابِرِ وضخّ معلوماتٍ وتحليلاتٍ مجهولة المصدر في محاولةٍ لتشتيتِ الرأيّ العام وحرفِ المسار العدليّ للقضيّة عن مساره الصّحيح خدمةً لأجنداتٍ داخليّة وخارجيّة أو حمايةً لبعض المتورطين والمقصّرين.

في تصريحٍ لافتٍ، أشار الإعلامي رضوان مرتضى، المقرّب من شعبةِ المعلومات خلال إطلالتِهِ التلفزيونيّة على قناة "الجديد"، بعد ظهر اليوم السبت، إلى "وجود عدة فرضيات لأسباب حصول انفجار المرفأ وهو شخصياً يرجح فرضية "الحمرنة" التي تبدأ بالجيش اللبنانيّ".

ويترُك تصريحُ مرتضى، الباب واسعاً للسؤالِ عن سببِ هذا التحريض على الجيش اللّبناني فقط دون سواه من الاجهزة المتواجدة في المرفأ أو التي تكادُ تُعلنُ أن المرفأ هو خارج الأراضي اللّبنانية، مثل شعبةِ المعلومات التي "نفضت" يدها من هذا الملف.

وعلّق الإعلامي في قناة العالم حسين مرتضى، على ما أورده اعلامي الجديد، بالقول: "عندما كشف سماحة السيد أمس الجمعة ان بعض الأجهزة الامنية اصبح التحقيق لديها كاملاً ولم تكشفه بل كان بعض الصحافيين يُسرب بعض المعلومات بأتجاه اخر، ادركنا ان هؤلاء كانوا يقومون بذلك ضمن المهمة التي طلبتها منهم هذه الاجهزة".

وتابع حسين، "عندما تسعى بعض الأجهزة الأمنية أن تُسرّب ما تريده حول تحقيقِ المرفأ من خلال بعض الصحافيين، ندركُ أن هناك من يريد تسييس هذا التحقيق، وهذا ما حذّر منه أمس سماحة السيد".

والسؤالُ البديهيّ الذي يُطرح: هل باخرة "روسوس" كانت مرتبطة بمصيرِ بواخر أخرى كـ "لطفالله 2" و "لطفالله 3" وباخرة "ترايدر" التي تم تحميلها جميعها بـ "نيترات الامونيوم" في تركيا لإفراغها في لبنان لصالح الجماعات المسلّحة في سوريا؟

وهل لهذه الأسباب، نشهدُ هجوم أحد الأجهزة الأمنيّة بواسطةِ بعض الإعلاميّين على التّحقيق في قضيّة المرفأ لضعضعته وحرفه عن مساره الطبيعي، حتى لا يُتّهم تيّار سياسيّ وجهاز امني بأنه كان على علمٍ بإحضار تلك المواد المتفجرة؟











 
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