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May 7 2008: Protests, Clashes and Aftermath

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Lebanese youths inspect the damage to burnt shops after clashes in the Shwayfat area of Mount Lebanon near Beirut May 12, 2008. At least 36 were people were killed in fierce clashes on Sunday between Hezbollah gunmen and supporters of pro-government Druze leader Walid Jumblatt in mountains east of Beirut, security sources said on Monday.
REUTERS/Damir Sagolj (LEBANON)

Lebanese women and other Hezbollah supporters shout during a funeral for two of their comrades in the south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Iranian-backed Hezbollah and its pro-Syrian allies have swept through Beirut and hills to the east, routing loyalists of the U.S.-backed government before handing its conquests to the Lebanese army, which has stayed out of the fighting. One source said the dead in Sunday's battles included 14 Hezbollah fighters.
REUTERS/Damir Sagolj (LEBANON)

Hezbollah supporters carry the coffin of their comrade during a funeral in the south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Iranian-backed Hezbollah and its pro-Syrian allies have swept through Beirut and hills to the east, routing loyalists of the U.S.-backed government before handing its conquests to the Lebanese army, which has stayed out of the fighting. One source said the dead in Sunday's battles included 14 Hezbollah fighters.
REUTERS/Damir Sagolj (LEBANON)

Hezbollah militants carry coffins of their two comrades who died in clashes, in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Women chant slogans as Hezbollah militants, not seen, carry coffins of their two comrades who died in clashes, in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Hezbollah militants chant slogans as they carry coffins of their two comrades who died in clashes, in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

A supporter of Hezbollah reacts as militants carry coffins and photos of their two comrades who died in clashes, in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Hezbollah militants carry coffins of their two comrades who died in clashes, in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Hezbollah supporters gather around coffins with remains of their comrades wrapped in movements flags during a funeral in south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Iranian-backed Hezbollah and its pro-Syrian allies have swept through Beirut and hills to the east, routing loyalists of the U.S.-backed government before handing its conquests to the Lebanese army, which has stayed out of the fighting. One source said the dead in Sunday's battles included 14 Hezbollah fighters.
REUTERS/Damir Sagolj (LEBANON)

A man fixes his bullet riddled window damaged in clashes in Chouweifat, south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. The Lebanese army continued its deployments in Lebanon's mountains overlooking the capital Monday, a day after heavy fighting between pro and anti-government supporters left at least 11 people dead, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Darko Bandic)

Hezbollah supporters shout during a funeral of two of their comrades in south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Iranian-backed Hezbollah and its pro-Syrian allies have swept through Beirut and hills to the east, routing loyalists of the U.S.-backed government before handing its conquests to the Lebanese army, which has stayed out of the fighting. One source said the dead in Sunday's battles included 14 Hezbollah fighters.
REUTERS/Damir Sagolj (LEBANON)

A Lebanese Druze man talks on a public phone beside a burning store in Chouweifat, South of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Heavy fighting broke out between pro- and anti-government supporters in the area of Chouweifat, Lebanon's central mountains overlooking the capital Sunday sending echoes of gunfire and explosions rolling across Beirut.
(AP Photo/Bela Szandelszky)

Two Lebanese army soldiers walk a poster of late Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri that was placed by fighters loyal to Hariri and the government after storming and setting ablaze the office of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, a secular pro-Syrian group allied with Hezbollah after the clashes of last week in the town of Halba near the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese security officials say heavy fighting has erupted for a second time in the northern city of Tripoli.
(AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)

Masked Sunni gunmen stand guard on the road leading to the main border crossing point with Syria that was still closed in retaliation for the opposition's closure of the airport road, in the eastern Bekaa Valley, in Masnaa, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Heavy fighting broke out between government supporters and opponents Monday in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli, after soldiers quelled similar battles that killed at least 11 people in mountains overlooking the capital, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Samer Husseini)

A Sunni gunman stands guard during clashes in the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Heavy fighting broke out between government supporters and opponents Monday in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli, after soldiers quelled similar battles that killed at least 11 people in mountains overlooking the capital, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)

Mourners leave a church carrying the coffin of Michael Habib, 44 a member of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, a secular pro-Syrian group allied with Hezbollah who was killed during clashes with fighters loyal to the late Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and the government last week in the town of Halba, near the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanese security officials say heavy fighting has erupted for a second time in the northern city of Tripoli.
(AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)

A resident walks past a Sunni Muslim gunman taking position during clashes in a street in Tripoli, northern Lebanon May 12, 2008. Clashes resumed in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli on Monday and security sources said at least 36 people had been killed on Sunday in fighting between Hezbollah and its pro-government Druze opponents east of Beirut.
REUTERS/ Omar Ibrahim (LEBANON)

Lebanese soldiers stand guard at a checkpoint in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanon's army deployed across mountains overlooking the capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro- and anti-government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Ahmad Omar)

Lebanese soldiers search a man at a checkpoint in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Lebanon's army deployed across mountains overlooking the capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro- and anti-government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Ahmad Omar)

A Sunni Muslim gunman talks to journalists during clashes in a street in Tripoli, northern Lebanon May 12, 2008.
(Omar Ibrahim/Reuters)



Hezbollah members carry the coffin of their comrade during a funeral in south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Clashes resumed in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli on Monday in fighting between Hezbollah and its pro-government opponents.
REUTERS/Issam Kobeisy (LEBANON)

Druse women check the damage in a house that was destroyed Sunday during clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)

A Hezbollah member fires his gun as mourners carry the coffin of a comrade during a funeral in south of Beirut May 12, 2008. Clashes resumed in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli on Monday in fighting between Hezbollah and its pro-government opponents.
REUTERS/ Issam Kobeisy (LEBANON)

Lebanese soldiers patrol the streets of Chouweifat, south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday May 12, 2008, following Sunday clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen and their allies. The pictures on the left show Druze victims of Sunday's fighting. Lebanese soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

Smoke rises over the buildings as some stores of Lebanon's Druze community caught fire in Chouweifat, South of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Heavy fighting broke out between pro- and anti-government supporters in the area of Chouweifat, Lebanon's central mountains overlooking the capital Sunday sending echoes of gunfire and explosions rolling across Beirut.
(AP Photo/Bela Szandelszky)

A Lebanese Druze man looks at his burning store in Chouweifat, South of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Heavy fighting broke out between pro- and anti-government supporters in the area of Chouweifat, Lebanon's central mountains overlooking the capital Sunday sending echoes of gunfire and explosions rolling across Beirut.
(AP Photo/Bela Szandelszky)

A boy reacts as he walks past a burnt out car that was damaged during Sunday clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)

A Druse man clears his broken car window damaged from Sunday clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen and their allies in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday May 12, 2008. Lebanese soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

A Druse man clears a broken window of his house where a shell exploded Sunday during clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen and their allies in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday May 12, 2008. Lebanese soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Hussein Malla

Lebanese soldiers stand guard across from a burnt car damaged during Sunday clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)



A Druse boy stands in a house that was damaged Sunday during clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)

A Druse cleric, looks on in a house that was targeted with shells on Sunday, during clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen in Chouweifat, south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, May 12, 2008. Soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo)

A Druse man walks past a destroyed shop during Sunday clashes between pro-government supporters of Druse leader Walid Jumblatt and Shiite gunmen and their allies in Chouweifat south of Beirut, Lebanon, Monday May 12, 2008. Lebanese soldiers deployed across mountains overlooking the Lebanese capital Monday after at least 11 people were killed in fierce clashes between pro-Syrian gunmen and government supporters entrenched in the hilly plateau, security officials and paramedics said.
(AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)
 
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  • Golden Earing

    Golden Earing

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    Thank you for the pics...



    Some of these images are heart breaking. Women crying her apartment burnt down. Woman carrying her baby across the street, probably under gunfire.

    So sad to re-live these days again. Seems like another generation wasted.

    God save us all.
     
    johnnyFPM

    johnnyFPM

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    ....again.....do you guys consider these fallen militiamen as martyrs as they invaded the shouf and fought the Lebanese Druze?
    You mean those who were kidnapped in Aley and butchered brutally?
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    You mean those who were kidnapped in Aley and butchered brutally?
    maybe it is true PSP is well known for those things in their past!

    but what is Hezbollah Militia from south and dahyeh doing in Aley? think about that as well

    if the future movement was in Batroun armed will that be okay with you?
     
    NewB

    NewB

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    maybe it is true PSP is well known for those things in their past!

    but what is Hezbollah Militia from south and dahyeh doing in Aley? think about that as well

    if the future movement was in Batroun armed will that be okay with you?
    Who said hezbollah are in south and dahyeh only?

    What about kmatiyi?

    Again like I say in every thread...lebanon does not belong to a sect it belongs to all of us. So stop saying shia are in dahyi and south. There are druze in the south and they are armed. There are FM in the south and they are also armed. Just there are SSNP in the jabal.
     
    Arze

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    Syrians and Lebanese cross the Lebanese-Syrian border at al-Masnaa crossing point in the Bekaa valley east Lebanon. A precarious calm returned to Lebanon on Tuesday after the army warned it was ready to use force to restore order after six days of sectarian bloodshed that have shaken the nation.(AFP)


    Sunni Muslim gunmen block the main road to Syrian borders with sand and barricades in the Masna'a area east of Lebanon



    Hezbollah members carry the coffin of their comrade during a funeral in south of Beirut



    A relative mourns as Hezbollah members carry the body of their comrade Hussein Burji, wrapped with the group's flag, during a funeral in south of Beirut



    Sunni Muslim gunmen block the main road to Syrian borders in the Masna'a area east of Lebanon



    The Bchara al-Khoury district







    Portrait of Iraq's ex-dictator Saddam Hussein is seen on a barricade blocking the Lebanese-Syrian border crossing near Al-Masna, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.



    A Lebanese woman and a baby make their way through a barricade blocking the Lebanese-Syrian border crossing near Al-Masna, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.



    Lebanese merchants carry their goods through a barricade blocking the Lebanese-Syrian border crossing near Al-Masna, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.



    Lebanese troops atop armored personnel carriers patrol the streets in the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.



    Hezbollah militants carry the coffin of a comrade during his funeral in southern Beirut. A precarious calm has returned to Lebanon after the army warned it was ready to use force to restore order after six days of sectarian bloodshed that have shaken the nation.(AFP/Hassan Ammar)



    Lebanese soldiers sit atop an armored personnel carrier as they patrol the streets in the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008



    Hezbollah militants carry the coffin of their comrade Hassan Rabah, who died in clashes between pro-government supporters and Shiite gunmen during his funeral procession, in Dahiyeh neighborhood of south Beirut, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.









    Lebanese soldiers patrol the streets as people look on in Beirut, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008



    People walk past a armored personnel vehicle as Lebanese soldiers secure the area in Beirut, Lebanon, Tuesday, May 13, 2008.



    A Sunni gunman uses the Lebanese flag as a mask as he stands guard during clashes in the northern city of Tripoli, Lebanon, late Monday

     
    NewB

    NewB

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    zaher post the rest of the pics from her flickr album...the ones who aren't dressed in full BDUs :p
     
    Observer

    Observer

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    i searched for war on her album...it can be found here:

    Flickr: Search
    Thank you. But I noticed that on one of her pictures she has the following comment.

    "The RPG weighs around 25kg and each of the grenades in his backpack weighs around 12kg. This guy must be well trained and very strong "

    This comment has inaccurate info. RPG weighs around 7 kg and the shells weighs arond 3 kg. There is no way a guy can have any kind of maneuverability with 75 kg on his back. It would be a death sentence for any soldier to carry such a heavy load in any street fight.
     
    NewB

    NewB

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    Thank you. But I noticed that on one of her pictures she has the following comment.

    "The RPG weighs around 25kg and each of the grenades in his backpack weighs around 12kg. This guy must be well trained and very strong "

    This comment has inaccurate info. RPG weighs around 7 kg and the shells weighs arond 3 kg. There is no way a guy can have any kind of maneuverability with 75 kg on his back. It would be a death sentence for any soldier to carry such a heavy load in any street fight.
    She has to exaggerate the fact that they are well trained, or maybe she lacks the knowledge. In any street fight the soldier must be light on his feet. The guys seem very organized. I noticed 1 heavy gunner, 1 grenadier, and riflemen. They are aware of weapon safety, aiming, taking proper positions even their stance is that of a well trained fighter.

    Was the hamra battle that intense that it required HA to hit the streets ? I looked closely at the pictures again and I noticed some guys are from HA's "elite" units. I might be mistaken though.

    Observer, western soldeirs train with atleast 75 pounds of gear. So I wouldn't be surprised if HA has the same standard (if not more). If they can run with a grad then I doubt a couple of RPGs would make a difference :p
     
    Observer

    Observer

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    She has to exaggerate the fact that they are well trained, or maybe she lacks the knowledge. In any street fight the soldier must be light on his feet. The guys seem very organized. I noticed 1 heavy gunner, 1 grenadier, and riflemen. They are aware of weapon safety, aiming, taking proper positions even their stance is that of a well trained fighter.

    Was the hamra battle that intense that it required HA to hit the streets ? I looked closely at the pictures again and I noticed some guys are from HA's "elite" units. I might be mistaken though.

    Observer, western soldeirs train with atleast 75 pounds of gear. So I wouldn't be surprised if HA has the same standard (if not more). If they can run with a grad then I doubt a couple of RPGs would make a difference :p

    Ok. But 75 lbs is half the 75 kg I mentioned.
     
    NewB

    NewB

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    Ok. But 75 lbs is half the 75 kg I mentioned.
    mbala ma hizballah mitil iron man :)

    lets do the math...

    RPG-7 = 15 lbs
    1 Round = 5.7 lbs x 5 = 28.5
    AKS-47 = 8.5 lbs (empty)
    lets say they each carry 5 mags (even though some of their vests carry more) = 7lbs
    helmet = 4 lbs
    LBV = 2.5 lbs (about)

    assuming they are not carrying extra ammo for the gunner, no medic equipment, food, or water the total weight comes up to: 65.5 lbs

    so yes i would say 75kg is very exagerated.

    For the comments above...those guys are HA or have HA advisors :)
     
    Fakhr eddine 1618

    Fakhr eddine 1618

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    Thank you. But I noticed that on one of her pictures she has the following comment.

    "The RPG weighs around 25kg and each of the grenades in his backpack weighs around 12kg. This guy must be well trained and very strong "

    This comment has inaccurate info. RPG weighs around 7 kg and the shells weighs arond 3 kg. There is no way a guy can have any kind of maneuverability with 75 kg on his back. It would be a death sentence for any soldier to carry such a heavy load in any street fight.
    Observer,

    Is this what called your attention on the site?

    Well I found many other interesting things there
     
    Abou Sandal

    Abou Sandal

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    Was the hamra battle that intense that it required HA to hit the streets ? I looked closely at the pictures again and I noticed some guys are from HA's "elite" units. I might be mistaken though.
    No HA elite units took part of any battle that occured.The few HA fighters that participated mainly in the mountain,were only 3rd rank fighters.
     
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