Migrant caravan approaching the southern US borders

Dark Angel

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this is worthy of a thread on its own, a caravan that counts in the thousands has been making its way from south and central america towards the USA. the left has been dead silent on the subject, not a single word. meanwhile, people are urging the president to deploy the army in the south to prevent these countless thoursands from entering unchecked into the united stated.


Thousands in U.S.-bound migrant caravan pour into Mexican city


TAPACHULA, Mexico (Reuters) - A U.S.-bound caravan of thousands of mostly Honduran migrants whom President Donald Trump has declared unwelcome, crowded into the Mexican border city of Tapachula on Sunday, setting up impromptu camps in public spaces under a heavy rain.

Members of the caravan, exhausted from the hours-long trek on foot from the Guatemalan border, mostly ignored police offers to board buses heading to a migrant shelter because of suspicions they might be deported instead.

The migrants have defied threats by Trump that he will close the U.S.-Mexico border if the caravan advances, as well as warnings from the Mexican government that they risk deportation if they cannot justify seeking asylum in Mexico.
 
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  • Indie

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    this is worthy of a thread on its own, a caravan that counts in the thousands has been making its way from south and central america towards the USA. the left has been dead silent on the subject, not a single word. meanwhile, people are urging the president to deploy the army in the south to prevent these countless thoursands from entering unchecked into the united stated.


    Thousands in U.S.-bound migrant caravan pour into Mexican city


    TAPACHULA, Mexico (Reuters) - A U.S.-bound caravan of thousands of mostly Honduran migrants whom President Donald Trump has declared unwelcome, crowded into the Mexican border city of Tapachula on Sunday, setting up impromptu camps in public spaces under a heavy rain.

    Members of the caravan, exhausted from the hours-long trek on foot from the Guatemalan border, mostly ignored police offers to board buses heading to a migrant shelter because of suspicions they might be deported instead.

    The migrants have defied threats by Trump that he will close the U.S.-Mexico border if the caravan advances, as well as warnings from the Mexican government that they risk deportation if they cannot justify seeking asylum in Mexico.
    These poor people surely didn't come up with this plan spontaneously. There are most probably powerful actors orchestrating this drama. Just like the European migrant crisis.
     

    Dark Angel

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    These poor people surely didn't come up with this plan spontaneously. There are most probably powerful actors orchestrating this drama. Just like the European migrant crisis.
    not simply that, but several countries are simply allowing the caravan through. i am curious to see what is going to unroll once they reach the US borders.
     

    Indie

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    not simply that, but several countries are simply allowing the caravan through. i am curious to see what is going to unroll once they reach the US borders.
    I doubt the Trump administration will be as lenient as the Europeans.

    The lefties will use that as another excuse to scream and cry and call him names.
     

    Dark Angel

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    I doubt the Trump administration will be as lenient as the Europeans.

    The lefties will use that as another excuse to scream and cry and call him names.
    it is a weird situation to say the least. people in very good standing have to take appointments from the consulate, wait for at least a month, pay a 200$, go through a thorough interview, before being issued a VISA for a limited time, while others simply caravan their way into europe or the USA. this is as odd as it gets.

    that's without even mentioning the impact on the local citizens of these countries.. this is a recipe for major conflicts..
     
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    During an interview with USA Today yesterday, President Donald Trump “vowed to send as many troops as necessary to the U.S.-Mexican border to block a growing caravan of Central American migrants, calling their trek ‘an assault on our country,’” David Jackson, Susan Page, and John Fritze report. “I think this could be a blessing in disguise because it shows how bad our laws are,” the President said aboard *** Force One. “The Democrats are responsible for that.”
     

    Indie

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    it is a weird situation to say the least. people in very good standing have to take appointments from the consulate, wait for at least a month, pay a 200$, go through a thorough interview, before being issued a VISA for a limited time, while other simply caravan their way into europe or the USA. this is as odd as it gets.

    that's without even mentioning the impact on the citizens of these countries.. this is a recipe for major conflicts..
    I don't blame these people for wanting to leave their difficult situation. I blame those who refuse to do something about the root causes of their problems, and who advertise mass migration as a solution, when it is clear that their true intentions are much more sinister and have nothing to do with helping the poor.
     

    Indie

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    “I think this could be a blessing in disguise because it shows how bad our laws are,” the President said aboard *** Force One. “The Democrats are responsible for that.”
    The leftists already know how bad the global migration issue is. They don't care. In fact, they encourage it.

    This will not wake them up. They will attack Trump for protecting the border.
     

    Dark Angel

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    I don't blame these people for wanting to leave their difficult situation. I blame those who refuse to do something about the root causes of their problems, and who advertise mass migration as a solution, when it is clear that their true intentions are much more sinister and have nothing to do with helping the poor.
    i frankly doubt they understand what the problematic is in order to do something about it. but in the light of their attitude, i think the wall might very well become a reality soon, and they may find themselves on the wrong side of that wall..

    i wonder how far that divide between the left and the right could go before things turn ugly.
     

    Indie

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    i frankly doubt they understand what the problematic is in order to do something about it. but in the light of their attitude, i think the wall might very well become a reality soon, and they may find themselves on the wrong side of that wall..

    i wonder how far that divide between the left and the right could go before things turn ugly.
    I don't know how long it will take, but sooner or later, major conflicts will errupt over the West's identity.
     
    #12
    The leftists already know how bad the global migration issue is. They don't care. In fact, they encourage it.

    This will not wake them up. They will attack Trump for protecting the border.
    I do not think Trump meant Democrats as his helpers to change bad laws.
    I think Trump meant that caravan will raise anti-Democrat sentiment during mid-terms and as a result
    Trump will be able to get Congress favorable to improving immigrant laws and providing tangible defense against flash mob attacks.
     

    Indie

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    I do not think Trump meant Democrats as his helpers to change bad laws.
    I think Trump meant that caravan will raise anti-Democrat sentiment during mid-terms and as a result
    Trump will be able to get Congress favorable to improving immigrant laws and providing tangible defense against flash mob attacks.
    Ok, I see what you mean.
     

    manifesto

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    The leftists already know how bad the global migration issue is. They don't care. In fact, they encourage it.

    This will not wake them up. They will attack Trump for protecting the border.
    If you browse the comments sections on major news websites, you'll notice that the liberals have already started blaming Trump for this human tragedy...
     

    Libnene Qu7

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    The root cause of this tragedy is the failure of the rule of law in these third world countries (aka very Catholic countries) that these poor folks come from. And much of that failure can be directly traced to US involvement in deploying its military and CIA operatives to assasinate, undermine, and replace democratically elected officials for decades on end. I say the US will reap what it sows, and if Trump gets blamed for it then so what? Just because you're conservative it doesn't mean you have to support Trump's idiocity.
     

    Indie

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    The root cause of this tragedy is the failure of the rule of law in these third world countries (aka very Catholic countries) that these poor folks come from.
    Why do you mention that they are Catholic? What does Catholicism have to do with the drug cartels in South America?

    If anything, many priests and nuns were persecuted, over the years, for helping and standing by their people. Monsignor Romero was just made a Saint. He was shot while celebrating Mass, because he tirelessly defended his people against the Salvadoran regime.

    And much of that failure can be directly traced to US involvement in deploying its military and CIA operatives to assasinate, undermine, and replace democratically elected officials for decades on end.
    What the puppet dictators did in South America was horrible.

    However, you have to put it in historical perspective (without excusing it). The U.S. was in a cold war against communism. Communism was taking over everywhere, from South America to Asia. It was a real threat.

    And, while the puppet regimes were evil, the socialist regimes would not have resulted in a better outcome for the people of South America.

    Look into what happened under every communist regime: tens of millions of deaths.

    Look at Venezuela today. They literally have no food. Their grocery stores are empty.

    Furthermore, the Americans' support of dictators, decades ago, does not excuse the current governments' inaptitude and their collusion with the drug cartels; nor, what the cartels are doing to their own people.

    I say the US will reap what it sows,
    Two wrongs don't make a right. And if you're going to operate by revenge then you can't place yourself on a moral pedestal.

    and if Trump gets blamed for it then so what? Just because you're conservative it doesn't mean you have to support Trump's idiocity.
    This is not about Trump or the U.S. specifically. It is about a sinister and orchestrated agenda to topple the West through demographic warfare.
     

    Indie

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    All these people somehow...magically...decided they're going to the U.S. at the same time, managed to organize themselves into a caravan, and are walking across multiple humongous countries, to settle in a country where they have nothing...no job, no food, no roof over their head...they can endure all that...

    ...but they can't organize a march on their own paliament, in their own country, to demand change or to topple their government?

    And we are to believe that this is not orchestrated?

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    Iron Maiden

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    All these people somehow...magically...decided they're going to the U.S. at the same time, managed to organize themselves into a caravan, and are walking across multiple humongous countries, to settle in a country where they have nothing...no job, no food, no roof over their head...they can endure all that...

    ...but they can't organize a march on their own paliament, in their own country, to demand change or to topple their government?

    And we are to believe that this is not orchestrated?

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    They are accompanied by an NGO called People without Borders(pueblo sin fonteras, dunno how accurate my translation is :p)

    Nothing of this magnitude can be managed and put together spontaneously.

    They tend shelters and provide education o the travel route to hroups before leaving and plan their itenerary and rest points, while their tweeters prepare a social media campaign from their cosy offices in LA.
     

    Isabella

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    They are accompanied by an NGO called People without Borders(pueblo sin fonteras, dunno how accurate my translation is :p)

    Nothing of this magnitude can be managed and put together spontaneously.

    They tend shelters and provide education o the travel route to hroups before leaving and plan their itenerary and rest points, while their tweeters prepare a social media campaign from their cosy offices in LA.
    The first caravan was yes, when it comes to this one however there is no clear organizer at least according to news articles about it
     
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