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Nazis on the rise in Europe & USA

Indie

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And there you have it folks, the requisite defense of Nazis by Indie only in spite of leftists.

I defended Nazis? In which universe?

Check your eyes or your mind. Because too much is too much. You people are literally dillusional at this point.
 

Iron Maiden

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And there you have it folks, the requisite defense of Nazis by Indie only in spite of leftists.
Sorry dude but neo anti semitism/anti israel is engrained in most leftist parties whether the labor in the uk, communist party les insoumis in france..

What indie said is pretty clear on the ground when you discuss such topics with thise parties’ activists
 

Indie

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Sorry dude but neo anti semitism/anti israel is engrained in most leftist parties whether the labor in the uk, communist party les insoumis in france..

What indie said is pretty clear on the ground when you discuss such topics with thise parties’ activists

What's incredible is that I'm being accused of defending the nazis when I am criticizing people who are against Jews.

I know my English isn't that bad! So...what in the world?!
 

GrumpForTrump

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Sorry dude but neo anti semitism/anti israel is engrained in most leftist parties whether the labor in the uk, communist party les insoumis in france..

What indie said is pretty clear on the ground when you discuss such topics with thise parties’ activists

This is simply not true.
The overwhelming majority of American Jews tend to vote for Democrats for a reason.

Neo-Nazism is very much a product of ultra nationalism and extreme right policies.

Democrats may critizice Israel's excessive use of force sometimes, but they're far from being anti-Semitic.
 

Libnene Qu7

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Sorry dude but neo anti semitism/anti israel is engrained in most leftist parties whether the labor in the uk, communist party les insoumis in france..

What indie said is pretty clear on the ground when you discuss such topics with thise parties’ activists

Being anti-Israel for inhumane practices against Palestinians and illegal settlement of land is one thing, and being anti-Jew because you're still angry that they crucified Jesus and that they control the world is another. One is based on humane logic and the other on blind and absurd reverence. Right wingers in their extremist form are always found in the latter.
 

Iron Maiden

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This is simply not true.
The overwhelming majority of American Jews tend to vote for Democrats for a reason.

Neo-Nazism is very much a product of ultra nationalism and extreme right policies.

Democrats may critizice Israel's excessive use of force sometimes, but they're far from being anti-Semitic.
Chu khas american jews and neo nazism in the usa??

The left’s base has always sided with palestinians, in europe at least but i think in the us too, and this new wave of activists coming from cultural ghettos are even more so biased against jews
 

Libnene Qu7

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I defended Nazis? In which universe?

Check your eyes or your mind. Because too much is too much. You people are literally dillusional at this point.
What's incredible is that I'm being accused of defending the nazis when I am criticizing people who are against Jews.

I know my English isn't that bad! So...what in the world?!

Don't worry, your english is perfect.

By ignoring the subject of this thread and only attacking the left is a prime example of silence being louder than words.
 

Iron Maiden

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Being anti-Israel for inhumane practices against Palestinians and illegal settlement of land is one thing, and being anti-Jew because you're still angry that they crucified Jesus and that they control the world is another. One is based on humane logic and the other on blind and absurd reverence. Right wingers in their extremist form are always found in the latter.
Point being that the base of activists in the left being more and more children of immigrants are bringing with them their hate towards jews.

Ur definition worked during the 70s and 80s not today
 

Libnene Qu7

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Point being that the base of activists in the left being more and more children of immigrants are bringing with them their hate towards jews.

Ur definition worked during the 70s and 80s not today

Check out the numbers. Anti-semetic activities done by those of immigrant descent is near zero. Those done by angy white Christian men is almost 100%.
 

Iron Maiden

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Check out the numbers. Anti-semetic activities done by those of immigrant descent is near zero. Those done by angy white Christian men is almost 100%.
Let me put it this way, in france when the LDJ( ligue de defence juive) fights with protesters trying vandalize a synaguoge, what etiquette would those peotesters fit:
- white angry men
- leftists of arab descent
Another question, lets say you’re kippa wearing jew walking around in a wuropean city today, where would fear venturing the most:
- a white angry men neighberhood
- a culturally arab neighborhood


As i told u before your definition worked 20 years ago, not today.
 

Isabella

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Let me put it this way, in france when the LDJ( ligue de defence juive) fights with protesters trying vandalize a synaguoge, what etiquette would those peotesters fit:
- white angry men
- leftists of arab descent
Another question, lets say you’re kippa wearing jew walking around in a wuropean city today, where would fear venturing the most:
- a white angry men neighberhood
- a culturally arab neighborhood


As i told u before your definition worked 20 years ago, not today.

"Leftists" of Arab descent is also way too simplistic of a definition! Neo Nazis today are for the majority extreme right wing white people who hate Arabs just as much as they hate Jewish people! And even though Muslim Arabs tend to be anti Semitic they are also not really "leftist"!

Can't blame everything on "leftists" certainly not when the extreme right is involved!
 

Iron Maiden

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"Leftists" of Arab descent is also way too simplistic of a definition! Neo Nazis today are for the majority extreme right wing white people who hate Arabs just as much as they hate Jewish people! And even though Muslim Arabs tend to be anti Semitic they are also not really "leftist"!

Can't blame everything on "leftists" certainly not when the extreme right is involved!
I asked two simple questions give me ur honedt thoughts abt them, or better ask ur jewish friens what they think
 

Iron Maiden

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I asked two simple questions give me ur honedt thoughts abt them, or better ask ur jewish friens what they think
Plz not to be understood that right wing anti semitism doesnt exist, merlynsaying the proportions arent what they used to be
 
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Isabella

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I asked two simple questions give me ur honedt thoughts abt them, or better ask ur jewish friens what they think

When it comes to protesters angry white men!



As to walking in neighborhoods yes Muslim neighborhoods would be a dangerous place for women and Jewish people to venture into... But let's not pretend that's because they are "leftist" as opposed to Muslim!
 

Iron Maiden

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When it comes to protesters angry white men!



As to walking in neighborhoods yes Muslim neighborhoods would be a dangerous place for women and Jewish people to venture into... But let's not pretend that's because they are "leftist" as opposed to Muslim!
As much as you want to believe it your first answer is way off.

Second, removing islam/arabs from the current europpean left today is a joke, leftist student unions, leftist movements are overwhelmingly joined by people of arab/muslim descent and hav ideals that interrest those people.

The Briefing Room - Anti-Semitism on the Left - BBC Sounds

If u have 4 min to spare, check out this podcast from 5-9 min that talks about how the labour party is morphing in the uk.

U 2 @Libnene Qu7
 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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Being anti-Israel for inhumane practices against Palestinians and illegal settlement of land is one thing, and being anti-Jew because you're still angry that they crucified Jesus and that they control the world is another. One is based on humane logic and the other on blind and absurd reverence. Right wingers in their extremist form are always found in the latter.

There is no such thing as "inhumane practices against Palestinians", it simply does not exist.

However, liberal parties continue to perpetrate these lies - I call it anti-semitism.
 

Isabella

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As much as you want to believe it your first answer is way off.

Second, removing islam/arabs from the current europpean left today is a joke, leftist student unions, leftist movements are overwhelmingly joined by people of arab/muslim descent and hav ideals that interrest those people.

The Briefing Room - Anti-Semitism on the Left - BBC Sounds

If u have 4 min to spare, check out this podcast from 5-9 min that talks about how the labour party is morphing in the uk.

U 2 @Libnene Qu7

How exactly is my first answer way off? Show me one neo nazi group who does not fit the description of angry white men!!

In regards to the second part of your post, we have to agree on what you mean when you say "leftist" because if it's what people usually mean when they say leftist on the forum then I'm calling bullshit on everything! See which typical "leftist" ideals would interest Muslims? Is it the feminism? Or the lgbtq rights? Maybe respecting people of a different faith? Aw masalan the secularism?
Haydole kellun are in direct conflict with Islam!

That guy is conflating anti-zionism and criticism of Israel with antisemitism! That's not the same thing! Or at least they are defining antisemitism too broadly and trivialising itsa meaning in the process!
 

CitizenOfTheRepublic

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Chu khas american jews and neo nazism in the usa??

The left’s base has always sided with palestinians, in europe at least but i think in the us too, and this new wave of activists coming from cultural ghettos are even more so biased against jews
In the US the democrat's position on Israel is similar to the right's position in Europe. The republican are farther to the right and some would even make the third reich look like the vienna boys choir, see below.
There is no such thing as "inhumane practices against Palestinians", it simply does not exist.

However, liberal parties continue to perpetrate these lies - I call it anti-semitism.
Ma ma32oul shoo ghabeh haydah.
 

Iron Maiden

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How exactly is my first answer way off? Show me one neo nazi group who does not fit the description of angry white men!!
Its not ur description of nazi group that is wsy off, its portraying the biggest problem of the jewish community being angry white men that’s wrong.

In regards to the second part of your post, we have to agree on what you mean when you say "leftist" because if it's what people usually mean when they say leftist on the forum then I'm calling bullshit on everything!
Lefitst is any student union, workers union political party that prone anti capitalism/anti “the man” rhetoric in public debate. Les insoumis, all european socialist parties, communists, greens, labour...
Is this definition clear enough?

See which typical "leftist" ideals would interest Muslims? Is it the feminism? Or the lgbtq rights? Maybe respecting people of a different faith? Aw masalan the secularism?
Haydole kellun are in direct conflict with Islam!
Lol really? Give me a bit mote of a challenge man, immigration based voters overwhemingly vote left, embrace leftist ideals on welfare and immigration decolonization..
Ur definition of leftist ideals is not uptodate with a big part of the voting left.

That guy is conflating anti-zionism and criticism of Israel with antisemitism! That's not the same thing! Or at least they are defining antisemitism too broadly and trivialising itsa meaning in the process!
Which part exactly? The part i pointed out to you he explsins how the labour is surfing on ideas that interrest muslim communities and their compassion for paledtine to gain more votes. Thats the point ibwas lookinh to show u
 

Iron Maiden

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In the US the democrat's position on Israel is similar to the right's position in Europe. The republican are farther to the right and some would even make the third reich look like the vienna boys choir.
AFAIK the left in the US hasnt,until very recently, been influenced by second/thrid generation mmigration from the middle east/maghreb region.

The case is very different for europe.

But give them a decade they wont dissapoint :p
 
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