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Neom a Zionist-Saudi Project On The Horizon Or Just Another Failed Futuristic City Project?

O Brother

O Brother

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Lately there have been some disturbing news coming from the Tabuk region of what so called Saudi Arabia.
The natives in that region are facing forced eviction from their native lands by the Saudi authorities. Only to be replaced by so called Neom mega project but what is behind this project? Is there something more to the story than what we know? Why are they evicting people from such huge area?

The western colonial state in the ME AKA Israel have been also showing some great support and interests in this "project".

Also there are crazy Evangelical Christians who have been claiming that this same region is where the real Mount of Sinai is located, this is obviously not any new claims but these claim have been revived lately and well promoted on social media by these same Christian Zionists! just go to youtube and watch the amazing footage claiming where prophets made their greatest miracles.

This might all be a laughing matter for many of you, like it was for many others like you decades before the creation of the Zionist state which is not but a European colonial extension.

There are just some odd things going around this project (Neom) and it just seems to be more to it than being a touristic, smart city and all that BS they talk about.
There are already talks about that the 500 billion dollar project already failed meanwhile the Saudis continue to evict people from the area!


The killing of Huwaitat who was resisting eviction from his native land might be a start of something.
Now whether you agree with the beliefs of this man or not, you can not but respect him for being a real man to face this tyranny and international supported state terrorism! I really recommend listening to what he had to say.



All I can say رجل في زمن قلت فيه الرجال


Peace
 
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  • O Brother

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    Saudi Arabia opens tourism to ancient biblical sites: 'The atmosphere is changing'
    By Caleb Parke | Fox News October 15

    As Saudi Arabia increasingly opens up to tourists, a travel group in the country started offering this week a "first-ever Christian tour of rare sites," promising participants a close-up look at a controversial location believed to be the real Mount Sinai — the mountain where, according to the Bible, God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

    Saudi Arabia, which has been closed for tourism the last several decades and has a dismal record on human rights, decided to give tourist visas on the heels of the second delegation of evangelical leaders from America, hosted by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman last year and earlier this year.

    "The atmosphere in Saudi Arabia is changing," said Rhonda Sand, owner of U.S.-based travel company Living Passages. "They are hard at work developing the country for Western tourism."


    Living Passages is taking a group of 25 people this week through "Jethro's Caves in the land of Midian," believed to be ancient Midian. The tour will be led by Joel Richardson, the author of "Mount Sinai in Arabia: The True Location Revealed."

    “This portends to be the most significant new archaeological site in modern history," Richardson told Fox News. “We're tremendously blessed that the Saudi government is allowing us to visit the kingdom to see some of its rich historical and geographic treasures.”


    Richardson, who said this is one of the most faith stirring experiences of his life, explained tourists will be flocking to see the historical mountain and other sites covered in a short documentary, "Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia," by Ryan Mauro, who will also be leading a tour in February.

    Most notably, the group is visiting the Jebel al-Lawz mountain in the ancient land of Midian. Early Jewish, Christian and Bedouin traditions have long attested this site to be the real Mount Sinai. The controversial theory contests the traditional location in the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula. On the north-west side of the mountain is the Split Rock of Horeb — a massive stone several stories tall, split down the middle, with evidence of water erosion at its base.

    The Split Rock of Horeb in Saudi Arabia, believed to be the rock that Moses struck from which water flowed out of for the Israelites.

    The Split Rock of Horeb in Saudi Arabia, believed to be the rock that Moses struck from which water flowed out of for the Israelites. (Living Passages)

    This week tourists will visit the town that has an ancient well, held to be where Moses met his wife Zipporah, daughter of Jethro, after fleeing Egypt. The group will explore the ruins of Dedan, Wadi Tayyib – along the Red Sea coast – and Tayma, where Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar may have occasionally stayed.

    Beyond the historic sites, the kingdom is hoping to increase international tourism with new museums and first-class hotels — and even a smart city in the northwest called Neom, set to be fully functinal by 2025.

     
    O Brother

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    Saudi Arabia's MBS Hosts Delegation of U.S. Evangelical Leaders on Eve of 9/11 Anniversary



    U.S.-Israeli leading visit urges lawmakers to 'see the reforms the crown prince is making' as the Kingdom attempts to improve its image post-Khashoggi's murder

    WASHINGTON — On the eve of the 18th anniversary of the September 11th terror attacks, Saudi Arabia’s crown prince hosted a delegation of evangelical Christian leaders from the United States at his Jeddah palace.

    This was the second time in less than a year that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman hosts such a delegation in the Kingdom, as part of the country's efforts to improve its public image in the U.S., especially among the evangelical community.

    The nine-member delegation was led by Joel Rosenberg, an evangelical author and activist who lives in Jerusalem and has dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship, and included Rev. Johnnie Moore, a member of Trump’s Evangelical Advisory Council.

    In a joint statement written by the delegation, they thanked the Saudi royals for their hospitality, and noted that the seemingly incongruous timing of their visit is no accident.

    "While it may surprise some that we would choose the week of September 11 to visit the Kingdom, we actually feel there is no more appropriate time to focus on where the Kingdom must go, can go, and where we believe it is going,” the delegation wrote.

    Of the 19 terrorists who committed the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, 15 were Saudi citizens. Last year, a U.S. judge rejected Saudi Arabia's bid to dismiss lawsuits implicating it in planning the attacks and forcing it to pay damages to victims.

    “Our visit here on this profoundly important week is in defiance of those that aim to derail reform in the Kingdom through an embrace of hate and fear rather than courage and moderation,” the statement continued, a reference to the crown prince. Prince Mohammed has enacted reforms in the Kingdom that have, among other things, granted women the ability to drive and travel without consent from a male guardian.

    But he has also faced harsh criticism for arresting human rights activists, jailing his political opponents and silencing critics of the regime. The international backlash against him reached its peak after the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who was tortured to death by Saudi agents at the country’s consulate in Istanbul in October of 2018.

    Rosenberg expressed regret that only two U.S. senators had visited the Kingdom since the beginning of 2019. “Saudi Arabia is one of America’s most important strategic allies in the war against radical Islamist terrorism and in countering the rising Iranian threat,” he explained.

    “Yes, there are significant challenges in the U.S.-Saudi relationship," he wrote. "But we urge more Senators to come here, see the sweeping and positive reforms that the Crown Prince is making, and ask him candid questions directly rather than sniping at him from Washington.”

    Rosenberg also led the previous evangelical delegation to Saudi Arabia, the first visit of its kind in the history of the country. That visit took place in November of last year, at the height of the international outrage over Khashoggi's murder.

    The Saudi crown prince personally hosted both this delegation and the previous one, a clear sign of the Saudi leadership's prioritization of building inroads with U.S. evangelicals. The evangelical community has reached the height of its political influence since President Donald Trump entered the White House; close to 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for Trump in 2016, and they remain a key component of his political coalition ahead of next year’s presidential election.

    The Saudi prince is not the first Arab leader to host an evangelical delegation led by Rosenberg; he has headed similar trips to Jordan, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates. Other Muslim and Arab countries, such as Bahrain, Qatar and Azerbaijan, are also investing in their relationships with evangelicals in light of the community’s growing political influence under Trump.



     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    To conclude: The World of radical Islam has lost and Islamic Renaissance, that I was predicting for years, has begun - full speed ahead!
     
    Rafidi

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    To conclude: The World of radical Islam has lost and Islamic Renaissance, that I was predicting for years, has begun - full speed ahead!
    So "Islamic renaissance" led by Khashoggi's butcher is about evicting people from their homes? Do you know that one of the conditions for armed jihad or that made armed jihad permissible was when people got evicted from their homes?

    The Quran verse of permission to fight was revealed indicating that one of the reasons to permit armed jihad was when people got evicted from their homes unjustly:

    "Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. [And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters."

    -(Holy Quran 22:39-41)
     
    Orangina

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    Saudi Arabia opens tourism to ancient biblical sites: 'The atmosphere is changing'
    By Caleb Parke | Fox News October 15

    As Saudi Arabia increasingly opens up to tourists, a travel group in the country started offering this week a "first-ever Christian tour of rare sites," promising participants a close-up look at a controversial location believed to be the real Mount Sinai — the mountain where, according to the Bible, God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

    Saudi Arabia, which has been closed for tourism the last several decades and has a dismal record on human rights, decided to give tourist visas on the heels of the second delegation of evangelical leaders from America, hosted by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman last year and earlier this year.

    "The atmosphere in Saudi Arabia is changing," said Rhonda Sand, owner of U.S.-based travel company Living Passages. "They are hard at work developing the country for Western tourism."


    Living Passages is taking a group of 25 people this week through "Jethro's Caves in the land of Midian," believed to be ancient Midian. The tour will be led by Joel Richardson, the author of "Mount Sinai in Arabia: The True Location Revealed."

    “This portends to be the most significant new archaeological site in modern history," Richardson told Fox News. “We're tremendously blessed that the Saudi government is allowing us to visit the kingdom to see some of its rich historical and geographic treasures.”


    Richardson, who said this is one of the most faith stirring experiences of his life, explained tourists will be flocking to see the historical mountain and other sites covered in a short documentary, "Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia," by Ryan Mauro, who will also be leading a tour in February.

    Most notably, the group is visiting the Jebel al-Lawz mountain in the ancient land of Midian. Early Jewish, Christian and Bedouin traditions have long attested this site to be the real Mount Sinai. The controversial theory contests the traditional location in the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula. On the north-west side of the mountain is the Split Rock of Horeb — a massive stone several stories tall, split down the middle, with evidence of water erosion at its base.

    The Split Rock of Horeb in Saudi Arabia, believed to be the rock that Moses struck from which water flowed out of for the Israelites.

    The Split Rock of Horeb in Saudi Arabia, believed to be the rock that Moses struck from which water flowed out of for the Israelites. (Living Passages)

    This week tourists will visit the town that has an ancient well, held to be where Moses met his wife Zipporah, daughter of Jethro, after fleeing Egypt. The group will explore the ruins of Dedan, Wadi Tayyib – along the Red Sea coast – and Tayma, where Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar may have occasionally stayed.

    Beyond the historic sites, the kingdom is hoping to increase international tourism with new museums and first-class hotels — and even a smart city in the northwest called Neom, set to be fully functinal by 2025.

    very good....moving in the right direction KSA
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    So "Islamic renaissance" led by Khashoggi's butcher is about evicting people from their homes? Do you know that one of the conditions for armed jihad or that made armed jihad permissible was when people got evicted from their homes?

    The Quran verse of permission to fight was revealed indicating that one of the reasons to permit armed jihad was when people got evicted from their homes unjustly:

    "Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory. [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. [And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters."

    -(Holy Quran 22:39-41)
    Everyone sees what s/he wants to see, I see change in attitude of SA internally and externally.
     
    O Brother

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    I am talking about beginning, not about leading.
    However, who is better to lead than convert-from-the-most-radical.
    So what, you stand for evictions of local people from their natives lands? Even if these ppl lived in the middle of the desert?

    You have to understand something about Al Saud they don't know what balance is, they will always be extremist either way!
    They will always be a destructive force!
     
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    O Brother

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    "Not a city, not a town, it is a entire country"




     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    So what, you stand for evictions of local people from their natives lands? Even if these lived in the middle of the desert?

    You have to understand something about Al Saud they don't know what balance is, they will always be extremist either way!
    They will always be a destructive force!
    It's hard to become good overnight and some even cannot succeed, but it does not mean that one should not try.

    As to your specific questions above - I am not judging one way or the other because I am completely unfamiliar with that subject and as we know devil is always hiding in details.

    Here is my approach - we already have evil Saudis, why not give it a chance and see if we can have better Saudis.
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    It's hard to become good overnight and some even cannot succeed, but it does not mean that one should not try.

    As to your specific questions above - I am not judging one way or the other because I am completely unfamiliar with that subject and as we know devil is always hiding in details.

    Here is my approach - we already have evil Saudis, why not give it a chance and see if we can have better Saudis.
    okay, let me tell you they are evicting locals by force to replace them and to build an international/globalized mega city for extremely rich people and for tourists.
     
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