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Normandie : un mandat d'arrêt contre Père Mansour Labaki

JustLeb

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Normandie : un mandat d'arrêt délivré contre un prêtre accusé de pédophilie

Mansour Labaky se présente comme un défenseur de plus faibles et des opprimés. Oui mais voilà, à l'heure où l'Eglise française est secouée par plusieurs scandales de pédophiles, un mandat d'arrêt vient d'être émis à l'encontre de ce prêtre, qui a dirigé de 1991 à 1998 un orphelinat pour enfants libanais à Douvres-la-Délivrande dans le Calvados, révèle Normandie-actu, confirmant les poursuites annoncées par «La Croix».Aujourd'hui âgé de 76 ans, le prêtre d'origine libanaise fait l'objet d'une enquête ouverte par le parquet de Caen.

RTL.

Condamné par le Vatican en juin 2013

Ces plaintes visent des faits qui remontent aux années 1990 dans le Calvados. Là, Mansour Labaky aurait abusé d'une jeune Française qui lui avait été confiée. «Ses petites camarades l’avaient prévenue, elles lui avaient dit de ne surtout pas prévenir lorsqu’elle aurait ses premières règles. Mais après l’indiscrétion de l’une d’elles, le Père Labaky l’a violée», explique à «La Croix», Solange Doumic, avocate de victimes présumées du prêtre.

Depuis, le prêtre a déjà été condamné par le Vatican en juin 2013 pour crimes sexuels sur mineurs de moins de 15 ans. Une décision qu'il a toujours contestée. La justice religieuse a sanctionné mais la justice des hommes tarde à agir. «En ce moment, au Liban, Mansour Labaky continue de rencontrer des gens, de parler dans les médias et sans doute à commettre les agressions sexuelles dont il a été coutumier. Ça n’avance toujours pas, c’est inadmissible», s'insurgeait Soulange Doumic voilà plusieurs semaines àRTL.

«La plainte déposée est la pointe d’un iceberg géant»


Depuis 2012, Mansour Labaky est au Liban et a été convoqué quatre fois par la justice française. Très protégé par l'Eglise de son pays, l'homme fait valoir que son âge et son état de santé ne lui permettent pas de se rendre en France, certificat médical à l'appui, explique «La Croix». Interrogée par le quotidien catholique, l'avocate des victimes estime qu'«il faut le renvoyer aux assises et le juger en son absence. La plainte déposée est la pointe d’un iceberg géant, qui n’apparaît pas au grand jour du fait de la personnalité si efficacement manipulatrice et du charisme étonnant de M. Labaky. On ne parle pas de quelques gestes sur quelques personnes, à un moment de sa vie… C’est un homme qui a violé ou agressé sexuellement de nombreuses femmes âgées de 7 à 77 ans.»
 

Impera

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He shouldn't have chosen this path.
He knew what the job description before joining

Well he did and many before and after him will. After many years of denying one's own natural urges, you would expect some ****ed up behavior to occur.

And so for the sake of those innocent children, priests should be allowed to get married.
 

Impera

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Actually, it has nothing to do with that.

The percentage of pedophiles / rapists in the general population is higher than in the clergy.

It has to has some kind of influence.

Anyway, what do you think is the cause, or causes?
 

JustLeb

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It has to has some kind of influence.

Anyway, what do you think is the cause, or causes?

I don't think raping underage girls is related to frustration only. There are plenty of other ways to ease his "frustration" (seeking professional services for example :D)
I am kidding but this is so unfortunate that the corruption has spread into the clergy to the bones.
I am a believer but I don't like clergy because of their lack of transparency and accountability.
 

Indie

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It has to has some kind of influence.

Anyway, what do you think is the cause, or causes?

I don't even think it has some influence; because, it is known that rape has nothing to do with sex, or sexual frustration, and everything to do with control.

As for what I think is the cause regarding the clergy...it's just a matter of probability. If you have X% of pedophiles in the general population, it is inevitable that you will find some of them in any random group that you choose to focus on.

The percentage of pedophiles in the clergy being lower than the percentage of pedophiles in the general population is, actually, a positive point for the clergy, as an institution.

What would be interesting is to look at other groups, perhaps teachers and the like, whose percentage of pedophiles might be even less than the percentage in the clergy. And, if so, to implement similar selection processes in the clergy so that the institution's ratings regarding this issue can go from "good" to "excellent."
 
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baloo

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It is an old story. I was all related to money . There was no proof whatsoever about abusing or raping children.
wa ktada al tawdi7.
 

Impera

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I don't even think it has some influence; because, it is known that rape has nothing to do with sex, or sexual frustration, and everything to do with control.

As for what I think is the cause regarding the clergy...it's just a matter of probability. If you have X% of pedophiles in the general population, it is inevitable that you will find some of them in any random group that you choose to focus on.

The percentage of pedophiles in the clergy being lower than the percentage of pedophiles in the general population is, actually, a positive point for the clergy, as an institution.

What would be interesting is to look at other groups, perhaps teachers and the like, whose percentage of pedophiles might be even less than the percentage in the clergy. And, if so, to implement similar selection processes in the clergy so that the institution's ratings regarding this issue can go from "good" to "excellent."

I have to say I'm not well versed in the subject of pedophilia. But you're making it seem as if pedophiles are just normal people who happen to like having sex with children. As if it's similar to say, 2% of the human population have red hair, so it's normal to have redheads in the Catholic Church within that rage.

I don't think that applies. Pedos are messed up human beings, to say the least. For someone to want to abandon his normal life and pursue a pure spiritual life of morality, chastity, poverty, prayer, and servitude to God, (not similar to random groups such as teachers) then the least of qualities they must have is not messing with children.

Pope Francis said that 2% of the clergy are pedophiles. If he acknowledged 2%, then it's safe to say that it's way more than that. The total number of Catholic clergy is roughly 40 000 (and is going down). 8000+ is a scary number.
 

Impera

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It is an old story. I was all related to money . There was no proof whatsoever about abusing or raping children.
wa ktada al tawdi7.

You cannot make a statement like that and have no proof to back it up. "Wa ktada al tawdi7" doesn't mean or prove anything?

Is Mansour Labaky a victim of conspiracy? And who orchestrated this conspiracy? Or he owed money to someone? If yes, who is that person and how was he able to pull all of this with the consent of the Vatican?

If I remember correctly, there was a video of him published proving the incident.

Do tell.
 

JustLeb

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You cannot make a statement like that and have no proof to back it up. "Wa ktada al tawdi7" doesn't mean or prove anything?

Is Mansour Labaky a victim of conspiracy? And who orchestrated this conspiracy? Or he owed money to someone? If yes, who is that person and how was he able to pull all of this with the consent of the Vatican?

If I remember correctly, there was a video of him published proving the incident.

Do tell.

The allegations seem serious.

"On ne parle pas de quelques gestes sur quelques personnes, à un moment de sa vie… C’est un homme qui a violé ou agressé sexuellement de nombreuses femmes âgées de 7 à 77 ans.»
 

Impera

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The allegations seem serious.

"On ne parle pas de quelques gestes sur quelques personnes, à un moment de sa vie… C’est un homme qui a violé ou agressé sexuellement de nombreuses femmes âgées de 7 à 77 ans.»

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true, the clergy are usually scum who look down upon the general public.

You cannot give any power, mental or political, to anybody without over time the beneficial party starts abusing its power and subduing others.
 

JustLeb

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I wouldn't be surprised if that was true, the clergy are usually scum who look down upon the general public.

You cannot give any power, mental or political, to anybody without over time the beneficial party starts abusing its power and subduing others.

That's what I was saying. Unfortunately the clergy institution lacks transparency and accountability.
Having people with misconducts happens everywhere (ex: latest scandal of pedophile cases in French military in Africa) but the issue is to take actions to punish the perpetrators (once convicted) and not protect them.
 

Impera

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That's what I was saying. Unfortunately the clergy institution lacks transparency and accountability.
Having people with misconducts happens everywhere (ex: latest scandal of pedophile cases in French military in Africa) but the issue is to take actions to punish the perpetrators (once convicted) and not protect them.

If the clergy didn't lack transparency and accountability, everyone would become non-religious (not necessarily atheist).

The idea that you need a hierarchical, highly-centralized entity to be a middle-man between you and God is laughable. If anything Jesus didn't mean to establish this kind of Church, hayde eza mish the verse is completely made up and added, like many other verses in the Bible.

The difference between any religious institution and the military for example, is that the latter's main objective is to defend, kill and conquer while the former preaches purity and spirituality. They're completely different. It's like saying the CEO of the IMF has the same intellectual capacity of a stripper.
 

baloo

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The allegations seem serious.

"On ne parle pas de quelques gestes sur quelques personnes, à un moment de sa vie… C’est un homme qui a violé ou agressé sexuellement de nombreuses femmes âgées de 7 à 77 ans.»

Femmes a 77 ans :confused:

Elle court elle court la maladie d'amour dans les coeurs des enfants de 7 a 77 ans :D
 

Indie

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I have to say I'm not well versed in the subject of pedophilia. But you're making it seem as if pedophiles are just normal people who happen to like having sex with children. As if it's similar to say, 2% of the human population have red hair, so it's normal to have redheads in the Catholic Church within that rage.

I don't think that applies. Pedos are messed up human beings, to say the least. For someone to want to abandon his normal life and pursue a pure spiritual life of morality, chastity, poverty, prayer, and servitude to God, (not similar to random groups such as teachers) then the least of qualities they must have is not messing with children.

Pope Francis said that 2% of the clergy are pedophiles. If he acknowledged 2%, then it's safe to say that it's way more than that. The total number of Catholic clergy is roughly 40 000 (and is going down). 8000+ is a scary number.

I'm not saying that it's "normal," at all. I'm saying that it is not being in the clergy that makes someone become a pedophile. The priests who end up abusing kids would have done so no matter what line of work they ended up in.
 

Impera

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I'm not saying that it's "normal," at all. I'm saying that it is not being in the clergy that makes someone become a pedophile. The priests who end up abusing kids would have done so no matter what line of work they ended up in.

I'm not denying that at all. But that may be one part of the 8000 (considering it's really 2% and not more).

The other part, may not be consisted of men who were pedophiles before they joined the Church, but the harsh and strict rules of the Church led them to commit such acts.
 
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