October 17 Revolution

What do you think will happen next, after Hariri's resignation?

  • Stalemate - No govt will be formed

    Votes: 40 51.3%
  • New mini-government of specialists will be formed in less than 10 days

    Votes: 20 25.6%
  • Similar government with Hariri PM again

    Votes: 15 19.2%
  • Civil War

    Votes: 22 28.2%

  • Total voters
    78
Iron Maiden

Iron Maiden

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It isnt any conspiracy theory. Baba Bahaa is spraying dollars. Lol.

What do you think changed between cursing Aisha last week and uniting with Sunnis and cursing sectarianism? The answer is dollars. (I dont support insulting Aisha by the way in spite of the fact that I hate her with a passion, for her atrocities and her war against Imam Ali. But we must not insult her. We shouldn't even insult Shaitan).
i cant believe what am reading, are you aware its 2020? 😂😂😂
 
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  • TayyarBeino

    TayyarBeino

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    اتخذ وزير الداخلية والبلديات قرارا بتقييد حركة الدراجات النارية على أنواعها يوميا اعتبارا من الخامسة مساء ولغاية الساعة السادسة فجرا وذلك في منطقة وسط بيروت (وفقا للخريطة المرفقة في القرار).

    وتقرر تكليف المديرية العامة لقوى الامن بتنفيذ مضمون القرار لتتخذ التدابير بحق المخالفين وفقا للأصول القانونية.









     
    Robin Hood

    Robin Hood

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    Lah ya zalameh... You are depriving people here from witnessing the stupidity levels that human beings can reach... Both sides are hungry and have nothing left to even hope for... But they are finding energy to kill each others for the sake of two persons who died 14 centuries ago... Very promising future these people are working for when they can never get out of their remote past...

    But thanks for bringing people back to topic cos it is hard to follow the news in fact...
    The Lebanese always goes back to his basic instinct: sectarianism.

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    oldschool

    oldschool

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    El mechkle ano yalle 3am yetzaharo henne yale jebo yalle sara2o hal milliarat. W awalon Bola sahebto
     
    Indie

    Indie

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    Not just Beirut the whole region was more beautiful but Western lead globalization, modernity and so on are global destructive forces!
    Not exactly. The Beirut we all miss was built on the traditional French model. The Beirut of today is built on the American / Khaleeji model.
     
    Indie

    Indie

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    When Scotland wanted to secede from the UK and the UK wanted to exit the EU, they both held referendums.
    In the first case, only the Scots voted, not the whole of the UK.

    In the second case, only the UK voted, not the whole of the EU.

    Likewise, if Christians choose to separate their region, only those living in that region get to vote, not the whole of Lebanon.
     
    Indie

    Indie

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    Inta fahmen federalism ghalat.

    Federalism is not partition, nor does it marginalize anyone, nor does it not allow people to move from one canton to another.

    It is diffusing power from a central state to the communities, especially in infrastructure matters.

    People who say they want federalism as partition kamen fahmanin ghalat. It is none of those.

    All federations have EQUAL status and rights, no federation is better than the other. so anyone claiming to want an Islamic Republic or a Byzantine Christian Republic ysheelo/a min raso/a, this is not federalism this is partition and division. Switzerland has different ethnicities and more than 4 official languages yet they are the most efficient federal republic and neutral country in Europe. Do you see the Italian Swiss calling a confederation with the Italians? or the French or the German with France and Germany respectively? No, because they identify themselves as Swiss and it is because of their model they don't play around with identity politics.
    The different cantons in Switzerland all have the same Christian European background and values, though.

    The situation in Lebanon is different. The different sects have different goals and values, and they don't trust each other.
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    Not exactly. The Beirut we all miss was built on the traditional French model. The Beirut of today is built on the American / Khaleeji model.
    Obviously the older western models were beautiful I was talking more about what came after WW II specially after the 1960s to this day!
    Also I think what we really miss is the green spaces and the less densely cities we used to have..
     
    Steven Gerrard

    Steven Gerrard

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    The different cantons in Switzerland all have the same Christian European background and values, though.

    The situation in Lebanon is different. The different sects have different goals and values, and they don't trust each other.
    Ma Khas.

    different ethnicity is way worse when you have different beliefs. At least in Lebanon we speak the same language.

    An Italian swiss is different than a German swiss. without their federal republic model those ethnicities wouldn't have gotten a long.
     
    Indie

    Indie

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    Ma Khas.

    different ethnicity is way worse when you have different beliefs. At least in Lebanon we speak the same language.

    An Italian swiss is different than a German swiss. without their federal republic model those ethnicities wouldn't have gotten a long.
    If you have different goals and values, speaking the same language doesn't mean anything.

    It is easier to learn a second language than to have goals and values you disagree with imposed on you.
     
    O Brother

    O Brother

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    Ma Khas.

    different ethnicity is way worse when you have different beliefs. At least in Lebanon we speak the same language.

    An Italian swiss is different than a German swiss. without their federal republic model those ethnicities wouldn't have gotten a long.
    We are still being torn between two ideas:
    1. Going in the West direction as distinct nation in this region who is very different from all others in the region and totally unique.
    2. We being naturally part of this region with mutual interests and common history with the region.

    The National pact tried to deal with it and failed miserably every time at every corner!
    It was just doomed to fail because of how illogical the approach was to deal with this problem!

    Majority of Maronite tend to side with first approach and the majority of Muslims tend to side with the second!
     
    mariob2

    mariob2

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    We are still being torn between two ideas:
    1. Going in the West direction as distinct nation in this region who is very different from all others in the region and totally unique.
    2. We being naturally part of this region with mutual interests and common history with the region.

    The National pact tried to deal with it and failed miserably every time at every corner!
    It was just doomed to fail because of how illogical the approach was to deal with this problem!

    Majority of Maronite tend to side with first approach and the majority of Muslims tend to side with the second!
    The sad truth is that instead of embracing the fact that Loubnan is "ذو وجهين", and adopting the cultural diversity as the basis of a "national" identity (however paradoxical this might sound, but it makes complete sense), the founding fathers found it better to make a hasty settlement built upon the division of the State by the sects, instead of the integrating a civil personal status law and uniting different sects through a common Lebanese citizenry upheld by the State.

    While everything should point on a consensus to adopt the "united we stand" approach, political bickering deemed it better to settle on a "mutually assured destruction" mentality.

    We shouldn't propagate coexistence, but national identity, which should be our shared past, wars, memories, what unites us the most : our differences.

    But this doesn't take into account foreign influence :/
     
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