October 17 Revolution

What do you think will happen next, after Hariri's resignation?

  • Stalemate - No govt will be formed

    Votes: 40 51.3%
  • New mini-government of specialists will be formed in less than 10 days

    Votes: 20 25.6%
  • Similar government with Hariri PM again

    Votes: 15 19.2%
  • Civil War

    Votes: 22 28.2%

  • Total voters
    78
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  • O Brother

    O Brother

    Legendary Member
    @SeaAb shu ra2yak bi qa2eed el maghaweer? :cigar:

    شامل روكز : عهد ميشال عون لم ينجح وهناك فشل

     
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    vicking747

    New Member
    Roukoz is a very disappointing person. He has nothing to bring else than insults against Aoun and Bassil.
    He has no plans and just speaks in general. The reason why Aoun and Bassil started injecting people is because before the Tayyar came to the Government, these thieves have removed all Christians
     
    Red Phoenix

    Red Phoenix

    Legendary Member
    im no fan of Roukoz nor FPM

    but fpmers cant blame him for whatever simple things he is saying or 'selling' now

    they used the same 'simple' language also when they were outside of power

    im sure if he was leading he would mess up things as much as fpm and the other parties did

    but he is right about 1 point

    no one seems to care no more about the people, fi local leaderships in the sunni/shia/druze and lesser extent christian street, handing out food and some half baked semblance of caring

    but in the big picture, no one gives a sh-t

    this government is being used by everybody as a scapegoat to crucify as they wait for the americans and iranians to agree on something

    the fact that u sleep in the dark or can't access your money or will die horribly is the least of their concerns

    these vampires just need u to breed like cattle to vote for them on election day

    the conditions in which you live and sh-t is not their problem

    every single one of them in power
     
    L'arbalette

    L'arbalette

    Well-Known Member
    There's nothing called 3ahed anyways, at least after Taef. Roukoz w sermeyte sawa...
    What exactly did he say that you disagree with?

    On the financial situation, he said exactly what we've been all saying: You need structural reforms, the IMF will force you to do them and tackle corruption, without these reforms we're going down the abyss and fast... and the government to date has been unwilling to do that (not to speak of the parliament).

    My issue with him is that he could have been more specific in calling out specific parties (it is not "all the government") and unsure how you can get a new government approved given the corruption of the existing parliament.

    On the "3ahd" question, there too, we all said for at least 10 years now that FPM shouldn't be "fighting for Houkok el MassiHiyin" but for the rights of all Lebanese. Ironically, one of these misguided fights for "houkok el MassiHiyin" was when FPM staged demos to get him extended in the army :).
     
    L'arbalette

    L'arbalette

    Well-Known Member
    Roukoz is a very disappointing person. He has nothing to bring else than insults against Aoun and Bassil.
    He has no plans and just speaks in general. The reason why Aoun and Bassil started injecting people is because before the Tayyar came to the Government, these thieves have removed all Christians
    Where did he use an insult?
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Staff member
    Super Penguin
    What exactly did he say that you disagree with?

    On the financial situation, he said exactly what we've been all saying: You need structural reforms, the IMF will force you to do them and tackle corruption, without these reforms we're going down the abyss and fast... and the government to date has been unwilling to do that (not to speak of the parliament).

    My issue with him is that he could have been more specific in calling out specific parties (it is not "all the government") and unsure how you can get a new government approved given the corruption of the existing parliament.

    On the "3ahd" question, there too, we all said for at least 10 years now that FPM shouldn't be "fighting for Houkok el MassiHiyin" but for the rights of all Lebanese. Ironically, one of these misguided fights for "houkok el MassiHiyin" was when FPM staged demos to get him extended in the army :).
    He used FPMers' votes to get to the parliament and ditched the president the minute everyone started attacking him, hence byeswa sermeye. He should resign, force a by-election and run again to prove himself. I couldn't care less what his message is. Backstabbers always end up in the dustbin of history.
     
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    illusion84

    Member
    He used FPMers' votes to get to the parliament and ditched the president the minute everyone started attacking him, hence byeswa sermeye. He should resign, force a by-election and run again to prove himself. I couldn't care less what his message is. Backstabbers always end up in the dustbin of history.
    Well if I remember Keserwan election properly; he was backstabbed by Bassil at the time and he nearly lost the elections.
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Staff member
    Super Penguin
    Well if I remember Keserwan election properly; he was backstabbed by Bassil at the time and he nearly lost the elections.
    Clearly you don't 'remember' the elections properly then...
     
    oldschool

    oldschool

    Active Member
    Illusion roukoz wanted all fpm votes so he would be number one in kesserwen and that he would get a boost going forward.

    Bassil chose to get two MPs and distribute votes between roukoz and azar.

    If he hadn’t done it then mansour bon would have been deputy instead of an fpmer like azar.


    Regardless of what his intentions were, it was simply the logical and smart move for fpm.



    Anyway I would have supported roukoz now if he hadn’t spent the last 4 years ybayyed we jj with hariri and berri whenever fpm fought with them.

    Talk is cheap.
     
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    vicking747

    New Member
    Where did he use an insult?
    He has a wrong tone against Bassil. Let me take back my word, I didn’t mean Insulting but bad wording and critics. He needs to be clear

    -does he want HA to disarm?
    - direct peace negotiations with Israel?
    - Palestinian refugees?
    - Berry and hariri, investigation against them or not ?
    - what do we do with the illegal 1994 naturalisation decree ?
    - which electoral law ?

    he doesn’t address a single topic and remains generalist. He won’t go anywhere and we will never shift any vote to him
     
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