October 2019 Revolution - Live Update

What do you think will happen next, after Hariri's resignation?

  • Stalemate - No govt will be formed

    Votes: 40 52.6%
  • New mini-government of specialists will be formed in less than 10 days

    Votes: 20 26.3%
  • Similar government with Hariri PM again

    Votes: 14 18.4%
  • Civil War

    Votes: 21 27.6%

  • Total voters
    76
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joseph_lubnan

Legendary Member
That actually would have been an ok deal had it had the PSP ministers out too. Then I'd be ok with someone like George Corm takes over MOF (not another Amal clown) and maybe someone from @Rachel Corrie 's list takes M of FA
This entire bullshit failure Bassil/Hariri tassweye/safa2a government should resign and get lost.
 
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  • The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    Both FPM and LF failed miserably today. Latter tried to instigate a brawl between the protesters and the LAF and failed. Former tried to frame the protesters as LF thugs and failed.
     
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    Eliassss

    Well-Known Member
    15:44 استمرار التحرك على اوتوستراد غزير والطريق مقفلة بالسواتر الترابية

    15:40 قرع اجراس الكنائس في جل الديب وعدد من المتظاهرين يتوافدون الى المنطقة ويركنون سياراتهم على المسلك الشرقي للاوتوستراد
    shou hayde kare3 shou

    ma ykoun yassou3 2eyilon sakkro torr2at we3tedo 3al 3elam
     
    Abotareq93

    Abotareq93

    Legendary Member
    Those who elected him don't like him. One of the most failed MPs Tayyar ever had. He's too lazy and careless to do anything for the people. He's such a loser, 7atta Ghassan Saoud ala marra, enno el zalame ma newe yeshteghil. FPM lost a lot in Jbeil because of MPs like him.
    Elected him and do not like him?
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    Orange Room Supporter
    16:03 ابي رميا للـ"او تي في": التيار فخور وسعيد بما يحصل في الشارع لان هتافات ومطالب المتظاهرين اليوم هي مطالب التيار


    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
    elias-aj

    elias-aj

    Legendary Member
    Preempting what? I would have to ask you to please explain. To tell you the truth I have written about four specific postings and in each of them I hoped to lure you into replying. Success finally!
    No one could ignore your posts Shadow, and certainly not me. Had to find time to make a correct answer :p As I know you won't miss the opportunity to correct my franglish.

    Oh and peremptory not preempting.

    There was no mystery about the political landscape and you shouldnt't have expected anything different. I must requote the old English adage: Politics is the art of the possible and it's the duty of the politicians to find the necessary means to compromise. Finding common grounds is essential and an incremental achievement is better than none. Aoun to me looks too implaccable and unyielding to the point where i think he resigned to the fact that if you cant beat them, join them. That is how i see him, wrong or not.
    I was very aware of the political landscape actually, and wasn't expecting "change and reform" to happen overnight. I was also aware that compromises were required, but not with regular political parties. They had to make compromises with former militias and actual declared thieves.

    The most important of all compromises was to implement a sort of stability (from a security perspective) thanks to an understanding between the three main leaders. And it wasn't a small thing given the syrian civil war and its spillovers back then in Lebanon.

    And then, I was thinking, some small steps after small steps... The rest was folklore and that's the reason why I lost interest in Lebanese politics for some time.

    Can you not see how the few little achievements have deprived the FPM from its monopoly on virtue? As a good lawyer you know that justice does not only have to be served but it has to be seen to be served. IN your honest opinion are nepotism and cronyism (and totalitarianism) corrupt practices or are they simply forgiven because they were given a certain logic the General knows what he is doing when reality showed there were hardly any tangible results to justify such belief. Bear in mind I know the excuses (reasons).
    I never considered FPM as an allegory of virtue to begin with. It sure represents many things, but not virtue. Or, may be we should define what virtue are we talking about. My opinion and my stance is quite clear : notwithstanding my opinion on FPM and its leaders, the other choices we are offered can't but be disqualified. Can you imagine voting for a psychopath like Geagea ? Or for a self-declared thief like Amine Gemayel ? Or for ethnic-cleanser and feudal lord Jumblatt, and so on and so forth.

    I admit, I may not always approve FPM leaders and each and every item on FPM's agenda. Or each and every policy they may promote (as for implementing, that's another issue in Lebanon).

    Regarding the accusations of nepotism and cronyism, has someone brought any proof ? I don't like Gebran Bassil but he's actually a hard-working person. Is the fact that he's the son-in-law a reason to put him aside ? His lack of charisma may be though...

    A bit arrogant don't you think. What you are telling me is that you are a man who is more comfortable with what ought to be the truth than what it is . Why cant we just move on to dictatorship then? We, you are not alone in this country and every one has to see that he is a dignified member of society. Foolish or not. In the end each of the Lebanese peopleS has its own political, cultural, ethical and moral views and who's to say your way is better than theirs when the reality is more often than not it's me or no one. Having such philosophy leads more over to limited success and spectacular failure. The pits of self-righteouness. It;s good on stage but in the real world it has limited value.
    Not self-righteousness, nor arrogance. Just, actually, being...pragmatic.

    I'd like to ask you if I have been vindicated to hold such views considering the events of the last 15 years. One philosopher here @fidelio once wrote :" A good lie is better than a sad truth" While I can see the merits in that, in certain situations, but being an atheistic Christian I held on to my belief that the truth shall set you free. You dont know how tormenting that is to me especially when I possess the imagination prowess to make lies really truly wonderful but I dont. In fact when the philosopher wrote this the first question that came to my my mind is that what Aoun Truly believes.
    I don't know my friend, honestly. Things are not necessary as negative as we might think. The future isn't necessarily as bleak as one could expect. After all, we went through the Syrian civil war and honestly, this was a miracle.
     
    The_FPMer

    The_FPMer

    Active Member
    16:03 ابي رميا للـ"او تي في": التيار فخور وسعيد بما يحصل في الشارع لان هتافات ومطالب المتظاهرين اليوم هي مطالب التيار


    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Ma3o 7a2 fiya, bas houwe mfakkar inno 3ndo copyright 3al claims. Reminds me of "Sara2oulna shi3aretna" during the garbage crisis. FPM needs to produce tangible results because its legitimacy is waning swiftly.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

    Paragon of Bacon
    Orange Room Supporter


    كبييييييييير يا زعيم تيّارنا الغالي

    الرئيس جبران باسيل انقذ العهد

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    @Muki u’re in cali, call tarantino eza ma fi te2le this will make one hell of a thriller :p
     
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    joseph_lubnan

    Legendary Member
    16:03 ابي رميا للـ"او تي في": التيار فخور وسعيد بما يحصل في الشارع لان هتافات ومطالب المتظاهرين اليوم هي مطالب التيار


    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    leiko hal habili
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

    Legendary Member
    Orange Room Supporter
    Did she really post this?
    If not please delete
    @SeaAb

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    Abotareq93

    Abotareq93

    Legendary Member
    غرد المحلل السياسي سالم زهران قائلاً:" الرئيس عون إجتمع بكبار القضاة وطلب منهم سحب كافة الملفات الموجودة في الجارور، وعليه سلك ملف قروض ميقاتي وبنك عودة طريق المحاسبة رغم العرقلة.
    يجب محاسبة كافة السياسيين و النافذين دون أي استثناء،وقانون الإثراء غير المشروع أسرع طريق لاسترجاع الأموال المنهوبة."
     
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    illusion84

    Member
    تكليف شرعي !
    خبطو العالم من بعد تكليف شرعي!
    زعران بري بيعرفو الله ليمشو بتكليف شرعي؟
    بعتقد كل العالم بتعرف يلي اعتدوا بالنبطية
     
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