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suhail jalbout

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Origin of Our Cosmos
By Suhail Jalbout

The greatest mystery that provokes thought in mankind is the origin of our universe. For thousands of years philosophers and scientists have tried to find an answer to this conundrum but without unanimity of opinions. The most prevailing cosmological description for the origin of our universe is the Big Bang theory. However, it not clear as to how the Big Bang black hole (BBBH) came about initially nor the origin of its contents. Matter and energy must have existed prior to the formation of the BBBH otherwise it could not exist.

I believe that the initial step to understanding the origin of our universe commences by answering this question: does void exist? The answer is mandatory to figure out what existed before the universe was there. If space (where a universe forms) was empty, then where did matter and energy come from? How can nothingness produce a universe? On the other hand, if matter and energy existed in the space, then it is possible for a universe to be created.

Man created vacuum. This was performed in laboratories, in the production of equipment used in different applications, and in manufactured consumable items such as incandescent light bulbs. He was able to perform these tasks only because matter (material) existed. However, he is unable to reverse the process and create matter from void. Thus, we conclude that the application of matter can produce void but void cannot produce matter.

Since void is the absence of matter and energy, we cannot study void but we can study matter and energy. There is no available method by which we can measure how much void is in a certain space, while we can perform all the possible calculations on matter and energy. Consequently, void is only a term coined by man to describe what happens when there is no matter and energy present in space. Since void does not exist without the presence of matter, this implies that matter and energy always existed; it exists at the present time, and will continue to exist for ever.

From this line of logic, it is possible to understand how our universe or any other universe was formed. Interaction between the elements of matter can create galaxies, stars, and planets simply by application of the laws of physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, electromagnetism, gravitational forces etc. They are the “universe DNA” which performs the process of creating a universe.

It seems everything that exists in our universe has a life span. It ranges from few seconds to billions of years. Man experiences the birth and death of living forms on Earth every day. He also has evidence from satellites revealing the death of stars and galaxies and the birth of new stars and galaxies. This is taking place while our universe is still in existence. The first thinking man appeared on planet Earth after the solar system was in existence for 4.6 billion years. When our Sun dies and disintegrates, modern man will no longer exist on planet Earth. It is quite possible that a new star will be born with intelligent life on one of its planets who will wonder where this universe came from. This may happen while our universe is still in existence.

If we assume that whatever applies at the micro level also applies at the macro, then our universe itself has a limited life span. As matter and energy always existed in the infinite spaces, these spaces contain billions of universes. Some are disintegrating while others are born (why our universe should be a special case?) As energy connects everything that exists in our universe (stars to stars, stars to galactic cores, galaxies to galaxies, and black holes to black holes), logic dictates that all exiting universes are also interconnected by energy. If a universe supplies more energy to neighboring universes than it receives, this universe will expand and ultimately it will join other universes overloading them with energy. I believe this is what is happening to our present universe because it is expanding. This does not mean that an expanding universe will not receive within its boundaries stars from other neighboring expanding universes.

However, if a universe receives more energy from neighboring universes than it transmits, this universe will be overloaded beyond its physical limits and it will close on itself. Black holes will start the process of consuming their respective galaxy and then consuming each other until all the matter of the universe will end up in either one or many unstable huge black holes with gigantic amounts of energy and matter. These Big Bang black holes, because they cannot maintain their equilibrium and stability, will explode releasing matter and energy back into their space. The released elements will recombine to form new universes and the cycle goes on. This process constitutes a complete closed loop. It is to be noted that when a Big Bang black hole explodes, it will create its own space to form its own universe. This implies that the space which a universe occupies is finite while the void in which all the universes exist is infinite.

In conclusion, I believe that our universe was created from the matter and energy that always existed in space. It is possible that this hypothesis may unify different opinions with regards to the origin of our universe especially if there are stars older than our own Big Bang universe.1 Their origin could be from an older neighboring expanding universe.

ADDENDUM

There are many cosmological theories through history. It started with Brahmanda “Cosmic Egg” Universe around 15th-12th Century B.C, and then followed by Anaxagorian Universe in the 5th Century B.C. and so on until our present day theories such as the BBBH Universe, Multiverse, and Quantum Virtual Particles Universe. These theories are an outstanding mosaic of human brain analysis. Every time a cosmological theory hits the scientific world, questions pop up: what was before or from where it came?

All the cosmological theories admit that our universe and all its contents exist. Let us observe the space, in which our universe exists, when we strip it from its contents and send them to a BBBH. The anticipated results are as follows:


  • 1. Remove everything that the naked eye can see. When an observer looks at the space with his naked eye he will find it very dark and void. Well this is not true. It is a “false void” No 1.
  • 2. Remove all what we can see through a telescope. When an observer looks at the space using a telescope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 2.
  • 3. Remove all what we can see under a microscope with magnification 1,000,000 times. When an observer looks at the space using a microscope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 3.
  • 4. Remove all what we cannot see, due to limitations in manufacturing very powerful microscopes, but we can envisage their existence by theoretical microscopes (referring to quantum foam virtual particles that appear and disappear after infinitesimal fractions of a second and are quadrillions of times smaller than atomic nuclei). To an observer, the space is now completely void and it does not exist anymore, “real void”.


What about the BBBH that was created? There are two possibilities:

  • Assume the contents of item 4 mentioned above remained in space and were not transferred to the BBBH. In this case the BBBH exists in “false void” No 3. Before the BBBH explodes or (have a massive expansion or evaporates) it is quite possible that “false void” No 3 creates its own universe in accordance with Hawking-Mlodinow (Grand Design, 2010) and Lawrence Krauss (A Universe from Nothing, 2012). But this should have happened eons ago assuming that “false void” No 3 can “stand alone”. In other words if “false void” No 3 can create a universe, then it should have been created from eternity with infinite age. This is not the case because the age of the oldest stars in our universe is only 13.8 b.y. while there are few which are older but not exceeding 14.5 b.y. This may indicate that “false void” No 3 is an integral part of existing universes and does not exist “standing alone”. Most probably quantum foam is an essential component needed to form a universe. Without its presence a universe cannot form.
  • Assume it was possible to transfer all the contents of item 4 mentioned above. This means the BBBH exists in “real void” that does not create matter and energy from nothing because it does not exist. When the BBBH explodes, it creates its own space. One second later, the space will be filled with neutrons, protons, electrons, anti-matter, photons, neutrinos, and quantum foam. The space between these particles is “false void” No 3 while the space that contains the real and virtual particles is “false void” No 2. The process will then continue to form a complete universe. In conclusion, BBBHs form universes and universes form BBBHs. This means energy always existed and alternates between two forms because it can neither be created nor destroyed. Since energy and matter are interrelated, then matter always existed.

REFERENCE

  • Google: “The greatest cosmic puzzle: astronomers find stars that appear older than the universe.” Ethan Siegel senior contributor




 
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  • Orangina

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    Origin of Our Cosmos
    By Suhail Jalbout

    The greatest mystery that provokes thought in mankind is the origin of our universe. For thousands of years philosophers and scientists have tried to find an answer to this conundrum but without unanimity of opinions. The most prevailing cosmological description for the origin of our universe is the Big Bang theory. However, it not clear as to how the Big Bang black hole (BBBH) came about initially nor the origin of its contents. Matter and energy must have existed prior to the formation of the BBBH otherwise it could not exist.

    I believe that the initial step to understanding the origin of our universe commences by answering this question: does void exist? The answer is mandatory to figure out what existed before the universe was there. If space (where a universe forms) was empty, then where did matter and energy come from? How can nothingness produce a universe? On the other hand, if matter and energy existed in the space, then it is possible for a universe to be created.

    Man created vacuum. This was performed in laboratories, in the production of equipment used in different applications, and in manufactured consumable items such as incandescent light bulbs. He was able to perform these tasks only because matter (material) existed. However, he is unable to reverse the process and create matter from void. Thus, we conclude that the application of matter can produce void but void cannot produce matter.

    Since void is the absence of matter and energy, we cannot study void but we can study matter and energy. There is no available method by which we can measure how much void is in a certain space, while we can perform all the possible calculations on matter and energy. Consequently, void is only a term coined by man to describe what happens when there is no matter and energy present in space. Since void does not exist without the presence of matter, this implies that matter and energy always existed; it exists at the present time, and will continue to exist for ever.

    From this line of logic, it is possible to understand how our universe or any other universe was formed. Interaction between the elements of matter can create galaxies, stars, and planets simply by application of the laws of physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, electromagnetism, gravitational forces etc. They are the “universe DNA” which performs the process of creating a universe.

    It seems everything that exists in our universe has a life span. It ranges from few seconds to billions of years. Man experiences the birth and death of living forms on Earth every day. He also has evidence from satellites revealing the death of stars and galaxies and the birth of new stars and galaxies. This is taking place while our universe is still in existence. The first thinking man appeared on planet Earth after the solar system was in existence for 4.6 billion years. When our Sun dies and disintegrates, modern man will no longer exist on planet Earth. It is quite possible that a new star will be born with intelligent life on one of its planets who will wonder where this universe came from. This may happen while our universe is still in existence.

    If we assume that whatever applies at the micro level also applies at the macro, then our universe itself has a limited life span. As matter and energy always existed in the infinite spaces, these spaces contain billions of universes. Some are disintegrating while others are born (why our universe should be a special case?) As energy connects everything that exists in our universe (stars to stars, stars to galactic cores, galaxies to galaxies, and black holes to black holes), logic dictates that all exiting universes are also interconnected by energy. If a universe supplies more energy to neighboring universes than it receives, this universe will expand and ultimately it will join other universes overloading them with energy. I believe this is what is happening to our present universe because it is expanding. This does not mean that an expanding universe will not receive within its boundaries stars from other neighboring expanding universes.

    However, if a universe receives more energy from neighboring universes than it transmits, this universe will be overloaded beyond its physical limits and it will close on itself. Black holes will start the process of consuming their respective galaxy and then consuming each other until all the matter of the universe will end up in either one or many unstable huge black holes with gigantic amounts of energy and matter. These Big Bang black holes, because they cannot maintain their equilibrium and stability, will explode releasing matter and energy back into their space. The released elements will recombine to form new universes and the cycle goes on. This process constitutes a complete closed loop. It is to be noted that when a Big Bang black hole explodes, it will create its own space to form its own universe. This implies that the space which a universe occupies is finite while the void in which all the universes exist is infinite.

    In conclusion, I believe that our universe was created from the matter and energy that always existed in space. It is possible that this hypothesis may unify different opinions with regards to the origin of our universe especially if there are stars older than our own Big Bang universe.1 Their origin could be from an older neighboring expanding universe.

    ADDENDUM

    There are many cosmological theories through history. It started with Brahmanda “Cosmic Egg” Universe around 15th-12th Century B.C, and then followed by Anaxagorian Universe in the 5th Century B.C. and so on until our present day theories such as the BBBH Universe, Multiverse, and Quantum Virtual Particles Universe. These theories are an outstanding mosaic of human brain analysis. Every time a cosmological theory hits the scientific world, questions pop up: what was before or from where it came?

    All the cosmological theories admit that our universe and all its contents exist. Let us observe the space, in which our universe exists, when we strip it from its contents and send them to a BBBH. The anticipated results are as follows:


    • 1. Remove everything that the naked eye can see. When an observer looks at the space with his naked eye he will find it very dark and void. Well this is not true. It is a “false void” No 1.
    • 2. Remove all what we can see through a telescope. When an observer looks at the space using a telescope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 2.
    • 3. Remove all what we can see under a microscope with magnification 1,000,000 times. When an observer looks at the space using a microscope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 3.
    • 4. Remove all what we cannot see, due to limitations in manufacturing very powerful microscopes, but we can envisage their existence by theoretical microscopes (referring to quantum foam virtual particles that appear and disappear after infinitesimal fractions of a second and are quadrillions of times smaller than atomic nuclei). To an observer, the space is now completely void and it does not exist anymore, “real void”.


    What about the BBBH that was created? There are two possibilities:


    • Assume the contents of item 4 mentioned above remained in space and were not transferred to the BBBH. In this case the BBBH exists in “false void” No 3. Before the BBBH explodes or (have a massive expansion or evaporates) it is quite possible that “false void” No 3 creates its own universe in accordance with Hawking-Mlodinow (Grand Design, 2010) and Lawrence Krauss (A Universe from Nothing, 2012). But this should have happened eons ago assuming that “false void” No 3 can “stand alone”. In other words if “false void” No 3 can create a universe, then it should have been created from eternity with infinite age. This is not the case because the age of the oldest stars in our universe is only 13.8 b.y. while there are few which are older but not exceeding 14.5 b.y. This may indicate that “false void” No 3 is an integral part of existing universes and does not exist “standing alone”. Most probably quantum foam is an essential component needed to form a universe. Without its presence a universe cannot form.
    • Assume it was possible to transfer all the contents of item 4 mentioned above. This means the BBBH exists in “real void” that does not create matter and energy from nothing because it does not exist. When the BBBH explodes, it creates its own space. One second later, the space will be filled with neutrons, protons, electrons, anti-matter, photons, neutrinos, and quantum foam. The space between these particles is “false void” No 3 while the space that contains the real and virtual particles is “false void” No 2. The process will then continue to form a complete universe. In conclusion, BBBHs form universes and universes form BBBHs. This means energy always existed and alternates between two forms because it can neither be created nor destroyed. Since energy and matter are interrelated, then matter always existed.

    REFERENCE

    • Google: “The greatest cosmic puzzle: astronomers find stars that appear older than the universe.” Ethan Siegel senior contributor



    Interesting but it lacks references....

    You gave us one....

    "If we assume that whatever applies at the micro level also applies at the macro"

    This is an assumption and this assumption is not true.....the more you go into micro and nano levels the classical physical Laws applied on the Macro world will not be valid anymore....
     
    Dark Angel

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    Origin of Our Cosmos
    By Suhail Jalbout


    The greatest mystery that provokes thought in mankind is the origin of our universe. For thousands of years philosophers and scientists have tried to find an answer to this conundrum but without unanimity of opinions. The most prevailing cosmological description for the origin of our universe is the Big Bang theory. However, it not clear as to how the Big Bang black hole (BBBH) came about initially nor the origin of its contents. Matter and energy must have existed prior to the formation of the BBBH otherwise it could not exist.
    we do not know if the big bang's originated as a black hole or not. there are different hypothesis on the subject, none of them is yet proven decisively
    .
    I believe that the initial step to understanding the origin of our universe commences by answering this question: does void exist? The answer is mandatory to figure out what existed before the universe was there. If space (where a universe forms) was empty, then where did matter and energy come from? How can nothingness produce a universe? On the other hand, if matter and energy existed in the space, then it is possible for a universe to be created.
    very legitimate line of questioning. i wonder if we can wrap our minds around it, ever. the incompleteness theorem states that for us to understand a system that we are part of, we are in need of an external component or agent that obviously cannot be available. but in reality the absence of anything, is nothing, which can not be some thing, else it would be a direct contradiction.
    Man created vacuum. This was performed in laboratories, in the production of equipment used in different applications, and in manufactured consumable items such as incandescent light bulbs. He was able to perform these tasks only because matter (material) existed. However, he is unable to reverse the process and create matter from void. Thus, we conclude that the application of matter can produce void but void cannot produce matter.
    that is not exactly true. we cannot really create vacuum it is a practical impossibility, we have achieved a certain level of low densities in controlled environments, but creating complete void is an impossibility.
    Since void is the absence of matter and energy, we cannot study void but we can study matter and energy. There is no available method by which we can measure how much void is in a certain space, while we can perform all the possible calculations on matter and energy. Consequently, void is only a term coined by man to describe what happens when there is no matter and energy present in space. Since void does not exist without the presence of matter, this implies that matter and energy always existed; it exists at the present time, and will continue to exist for ever.
    we can find out the ratio of the mass to the volume, this is what we refer to as density, and we can calculate to a certain degree of precision the amount of energy and mass in the universe, these factor into the entropy calculation, which given the fact that our universe is expanding, indicates that the universe will lose its thermal energy, and the information disorder will keep increasing. meaning that the universe was most orderly right before the big bang. i think you may be confusing the notion of empty space with that of nothing. space is a part of the universe, the higgs boson particles are part of space, and do not exist outside the limits of the expanding universe.

    From this line of logic, it is possible to understand how our universe or any other universe was formed. Interaction between the elements of matter can create galaxies, stars, and planets simply by application of the laws of physics, chemistry, thermodynamics, electromagnetism, gravitational forces etc. They are the “universe DNA” which performs the process of creating a universe.
    there is no evidence to any other universe.
    It seems everything that exists in our universe has a life span. It ranges from few seconds to billions of years. Man experiences the birth and death of living forms on Earth every day. He also has evidence from satellites revealing the death of stars and galaxies and the birth of new stars and galaxies. This is taking place while our universe is still in existence. The first thinking man appeared on planet Earth after the solar system was in existence for 4.6 billion years. When our Sun dies and disintegrates, modern man will no longer exist on planet Earth. It is quite possible that a new star will be born with intelligent life on one of its planets who will wonder where this universe came from. This may happen while our universe is still in existence.

    If we assume that whatever applies at the micro level also applies at the macro, then our universe itself has a limited life span. As matter and energy always existed in the infinite spaces, these spaces contain billions of universes. Some are disintegrating while others are born (why our universe should be a special case?) As energy connects everything that exists in our universe (stars to stars, stars to galactic cores, galaxies to galaxies, and black holes to black holes), logic dictates that all exiting universes are also interconnected by energy. If a universe supplies more energy to neighboring universes than it receives, this universe will expand and ultimately it will join other universes overloading them with energy. I believe this is what is happening to our present universe because it is expanding. This does not mean that an expanding universe will not receive within its boundaries stars from other neighboring expanding universes.
    life is an imposed layer of meaning. at the end of the day matter is matter and so is energy. particles may combine for a while to take one form, and then they are bound to take another form. also we still have no clue what time is, there is a good chance it might be a strictly conscious based concept, as in this unit may not be intrinsic to the universe outside the scope of our own awareness.

    However, if a universe receives more energy from neighboring universes than it transmits, this universe will be overloaded beyond its physical limits and it will close on itself. Black holes will start the process of consuming their respective galaxy and then consuming each other until all the matter of the universe will end up in either one or many unstable huge black holes with gigantic amounts of energy and matter. These Big Bang black holes, because they cannot maintain their equilibrium and stability, will explode releasing matter and energy back into their space. The released elements will recombine to form new universes and the cycle goes on. This process constitutes a complete closed loop. It is to be noted that when a Big Bang black hole explodes, it will create its own space to form its own universe. This implies that the space which a universe occupies is finite while the void in which all the universes exist is infinite.
    multiverse is one interpretation of quantum mechanics. it is not a proven theory. there are dozen different interpretations.
    In conclusion, I believe that our universe was created from the matter and energy that always existed in space. It is possible that this hypothesis may unify different opinions with regards to the origin of our universe especially if there are stars older than our own Big Bang universe.1 Their origin could be from an older neighboring expanding universe.
    could be a simple miscalculation. i am quite certain the contradiction will clear itself out with more studies. sometimes these things happen.
    ADDENDUM

    There are many cosmological theories through history. It started with Brahmanda “Cosmic Egg” Universe around 15th-12th Century B.C, and then followed by Anaxagorian Universe in the 5th Century B.C. and so on until our present day theories such as the BBBH Universe, Multiverse, and Quantum Virtual Particles Universe. These theories are an outstanding mosaic of human brain analysis. Every time a cosmological theory hits the scientific world, questions pop up: what was before or from where it came?

    All the cosmological theories admit that our universe and all its contents exist. Let us observe the space, in which our universe exists, when we strip it from its contents and send them to a BBBH. The anticipated results are as follows:


    • 1. Remove everything that the naked eye can see. When an observer looks at the space with his naked eye he will find it very dark and void. Well this is not true. It is a “false void” No 1.
    • 2. Remove all what we can see through a telescope. When an observer looks at the space using a telescope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 2.
    • 3. Remove all what we can see under a microscope with magnification 1,000,000 times. When an observer looks at the space using a microscope he will find the space is void. This is not true. It is a “false void” No 3.
    • 4. Remove all what we cannot see, due to limitations in manufacturing very powerful microscopes, but we can envisage their existence by theoretical microscopes (referring to quantum foam virtual particles that appear and disappear after infinitesimal fractions of a second and are quadrillions of times smaller than atomic nuclei). To an observer, the space is now completely void and it does not exist anymore, “real void”.


    What about the BBBH that was created? There are two possibilities:


    • Assume the contents of item 4 mentioned above remained in space and were not transferred to the BBBH. In this case the BBBH exists in “false void” No 3. Before the BBBH explodes or (have a massive expansion or evaporates) it is quite possible that “false void” No 3 creates its own universe in accordance with Hawking-Mlodinow (Grand Design, 2010) and Lawrence Krauss (A Universe from Nothing, 2012). But this should have happened eons ago assuming that “false void” No 3 can “stand alone”. In other words if “false void” No 3 can create a universe, then it should have been created from eternity with infinite age. This is not the case because the age of the oldest stars in our universe is only 13.8 b.y. while there are few which are older but not exceeding 14.5 b.y. This may indicate that “false void” No 3 is an integral part of existing universes and does not exist “standing alone”. Most probably quantum foam is an essential component needed to form a universe. Without its presence a universe cannot form.
    • Assume it was possible to transfer all the contents of item 4 mentioned above. This means the BBBH exists in “real void” that does not create matter and energy from nothing because it does not exist. When the BBBH explodes, it creates its own space. One second later, the space will be filled with neutrons, protons, electrons, anti-matter, photons, neutrinos, and quantum foam. The space between these particles is “false void” No 3 while the space that contains the real and virtual particles is “false void” No 2. The process will then continue to form a complete universe. In conclusion, BBBHs form universes and universes form BBBHs. This means energy always existed and alternates between two forms because it can neither be created nor destroyed. Since energy and matter are interrelated, then matter always existed.

    REFERENCE

    • Google: “The greatest cosmic puzzle: astronomers find stars that appear older than the universe.” Ethan Siegel senior contributor
    not really following you here. but welcome to the forum :)
     
    NewLeb

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    The present expanding universe and the singularity (before the Big Bang caused it to expand) are not really the same thing.
     
    Iron Maiden

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    we do not know if the big bang's originated as a black hole or not. there are different hypothesis on the subject, none of them is yet proven decisively

    very legitimate line of questioning. i wonder if we can wrap our minds around it, ever. the incompleteness theorem states that for us to understand a system that we are part of, we are in need of an external component or agent that obviously cannot be available. but in reality the absence of anything, is nothing, which can not be some thing, else it would be a direct contradiction.

    that is not exactly true. we cannot really create vacuum it is a practical impossibility, we have achieved a certain level of low densities in controlled environments, but creating complete void is an impossibility.

    we can find out the ratio of the mass to the volume, this is what we refer to as density, and we can calculate to a certain degree of precision the amount of energy and mass in the universe, these factor into the entropy calculation, which given the fact that our universe is expanding, indicates that the universe will lose its thermal energy, and the information disorder will keep increasing. meaning that the universe was most orderly right before the big bang. i think you may be confusing the notion of empty space with that of nothing. space is a part of the universe, the higgs boson particles are part of space, and do not exist outside the limits of the expanding universe.


    there is no evidence to any other universe.

    life is an imposed layer of meaning. at the end of the day matter is matter and so is energy. particles may combine for a while to take one form, and then they are bound to take another form. also we still have no clue what time is, there is a good chance it might be a strictly conscious based concept, as in this unit may not be intrinsic to the universe outside the scope of our own awareness.


    multiverse is one interpretation of quantum mechanics. it is not a proven theory. there are dozen different interpretations.

    could be a simple miscalculation. i am quite certain the contradiction will clear itself out with more studies. sometimes these things happen.

    not really following you here. but welcome to the forum :)
    am not gona dissect ur replies just one observation about wat u said: “there is evidence about any other universe”

    i think the fact that we cant even see past a certain distance meaning we cant even see the fullness of our universe should not narrow our minds about other universes.

    maybe there are other universes maybe its the same universe expanding and retracting into one giant black whole before it implodes again and recreates the bigbang from scratch.
    we just lack the observational capabilities to make such statements
     
    Dark Angel

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    am not gona dissect ur replies just one observation about wat u said: “there is evidence about any other universe”

    i think the fact that we cant even see past a certain distance meaning we cant even see the fullness of our universe should not narrow our minds about other universes.

    maybe there are other universes maybe its the same universe expanding and retracting into one giant black whole before it implodes again and recreates the bigbang from scratch.
    we just lack the observational capabilities to make such statements
    in essence if we cannot prove that something exists, we cannot simply claim it doesn't exist. but the opposite is also true. however as far as the scientific approach goes, a hypothesis is postulated until proven right or wrong, which also may never occur. at the moment the multiverse theory is simply one attempt among many others to make the math work. this is slightly different than whether or not there could be at least one other universe out there. i personally do not subscribe to the multiverse theory, which states that every event that happens creates new universes so that each of the possible outcomes is true in one of the universes. i do not think this is science anymore as more as wishful thinking to make the math work.
     
    My Moria Moon

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    Void, the absolute emptiness where not a single thing of anything exists, is one literally mind blowing notion, something we're not equipped to deal with. The overwhelming nothingness of void does not even allow for a thought to be wrapped around it, the moment the thought is formulated through the word, the concept vanishes beyond reach. By design, what is of life cannot apprehend such a concept. Void can't exist, be thought of nor imagined because we, and everything else, are here, which denies its existence. But does it mean Absolute Void haven't existed at some point in voidish spacetime? Or that it shall not exist in a distant time, after the last Big Black Hole finally finishes devouring everything else existing up to the last quark in space, including its own self?

    According to the yardsticks we're equipped with to measure reality, Causality doesn't stop at anything less than Absolute Nothingness. Therefore, reasonably, Nothing must be the origin of Everything. And instead of recursively looping back to what came first attempting to explain what created the creator, mental efforts are therefore shifted to explain the nature of void, that state of nothingness through which a self creating universe must have come into existence. And this is where it becomes tricky. How does something come from nothing? It must do, the question is only: how? :D
     
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