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PM Moustafa Adib Government formation 2020 [M. Adib resigns amid impasse]

Joe tayyar

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If you are not.. my apologies..
But now give us your sources about the claim you made earlier!
Ya 7anoun inta, u just apologised from him after he said terrorist sunnis from tripoli just because he is not FPM! Maskhara into walla!
 

O Brother

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No
You were rude and impolite.

Maybe because you were making baseless accusations which is way more rude and impolite! :)
I was right after all about you making up stories to fit up your hateful narrow!

You should have at least started your sentence with "I think.. "
making baseless claims without even telling us why or give us sources of the claim is usually what people with an agenda do!

So again either tell us about your claims or just shut up!

Ya 7anoun inta, u just apologised from him after he said terrorist sunnis from tripoli just because he is not FPM! Maskhara into walla!

Ya well I accused him wrongly of being a 3awni which he says he is not so I'm apologising for that only!
And to be honest he sounded like some 3awnis when he accused sunnis being terrorists!

Either way I don't mind apologizing nor admit when I am wrong!
 

Resign

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Yeah they didnt object to his name. Neither before nor this time

I don't think so.
There's no way FPM will agree on Nawaf Salam, just because there's also no way Nawaf Salam will give FPM what they want.

FPM want a total nobody who never thought he'd make PM on day
someone so eagerly wanting the chair that he'll abide by any rules or terms FPM place

for example: Hassan Diab.
 
I don't think so.
There's no way FPM will agree on Nawaf Salam, just because there's also no way Nawaf Salam will give FPM what they want.

FPM want a total nobody who never thought he'd make PM on day
someone so eagerly wanting the chair that he'll abide by any rules or terms FPM place

for example: Hassan Diab.
FPM did not yet digest what they consider Hariri's betrayal on the wake of 17th of October, and the way Hariri announced his dismissal.

FPM would choose anyone other than Hariri.
 

Resign

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FPM did not yet digest what they consider Hariri's betrayal on the wake of 17th of October, and the way Hariri announced his dismissal.

FPM would choose anyone other than Hariri.

It is not that simple
FPM have no honor, nor principles
if Hariri gives them what they want (few seats in government, energy and water etc) they'll vote him back in and gladly.

But it's actually the other way around
Hariri refuses to head a government with Bassil or any of his crew in it. (in his shoes i'd do the same),
Of course Hariri knows no honor, nor has any principles either HOWEVER:
HA and Berri want him so bad, so he can (and should) put the bar high.

FPM will not choose anyone other than hariri, not at all
FPM will choose anyone who gives them what they want even if it was Hariri.
 

Lebnaouneh

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It is not that simple
FPM have no honor, nor principles
if Hariri gives them what they want (few seats in government, energy and water etc) they'll vote him back in and gladly.

But it's actually the other way around
Hariri refuses to head a government with Bassil or any of his crew in it. (in his shoes i'd do the same),
Of course Hariri knows no honor, nor has any principles either HOWEVER:
HA and Berri want him so bad, so he can (and should) put the bar high.

FPM will not choose anyone other than hariri, not at all
FPM will choose anyone who gives them what they want even if it was Hariri.
True, FPM would vote for Hariri if he gives them what they want
What will most benefit FPM is a competent government that can deliver reforms
Hariri, in that regard, cannot give FPM what they want
 

Resign

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True, FPM would vote for Hariri if he gives them what they want
What will most benefit FPM is a competent government that can deliver reforms
Hariri, in that regard, cannot give FPM what they want

Right
that's why they didn't want Hariri to resign after 17 of October :D :D
The moment Hariri agrees to give Bassil a share in the government, the government forms the next morning.
And of course, same as all previous governments, it'll be doomed to fail from the get go.
 

Lebnaouneh

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Right
that's why they didn't want Hariri to resign after 17 of October :D :D
The moment Hariri agrees to give Bassil a share in the government, the government forms the next morning.
And of course, same as all previous governments, it'll be doomed to fail from the get go.
Before 17 October, on the 13th of October, Gebran was threatening to resign ya ziko
 

Resign

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Before 17 October, on the 13th of October, Gebran was threatening to resign ya ziko

Yea al bado ye2lob al tawle, 3ala ases sada2neh !!

Gebran position was clear after Oct 17 ya zeko
no resignation whatsoever and he was very upset when Hariri did it
In fact Hariri did it nkeye b Gebran.
 
Before 17 October, on the 13th of October, Gebran was threatening to resign ya ziko
GB would never resign from a government where he had 1/3 + ministers.
That would be ruining his own 3ahed.

He may have threatened to do so to dissuade some opponents to undertake some disastrous decisions such as the one taken by the retarded ministry of information Mohamad Chkeir regarding the taxing of whatsapp video calls. This guy (mohamad chkeir) deserves to be hanged as much as salim ayach, badri daher, and many others
 

O Brother

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Yeah they didnt object to his name. Neither before nor this time

It is not up to FPM or other than FPM to agree on the name.. The ones who have to agree are Hizb-Iran!

Aon/Bassil knows that very well and so they only care about getting their share in any government!

If Hizb-Iran would have agreed on Nawaf Salam or whoever FPM wouldn't mind him as long as he give them their share!
 

Joe tayyar

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How can a gvt gain confidence from the parliament if no one is included?
1st you have the president clearance after you have the parliament, if non is included the gvt can fall in the parliament upon confidence vote!
 
How can a gvt gain confidence from the parliament if no one is included?
1st you have the president clearance after you have the parliament, if non is included the gvt can fall in the parliament upon confidence vote!
The government has the confidence of the people which is the source of all legitimacy.
This parliament is obsolete and does no longer represent the people.
So, to make the long story short, we don’t care whether the government gains the confidence of the parliament or not, as long as people in the streets are satisfied
 

Joe tayyar

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The government has the confidence of the people which is the source of all legitimacy.
This parliament is obsolete and does no longer represent the people.
So, to make the long story short, we don’t care whether the government gains the confidence of the parliament or not, as long as people in the streets are satisfied
Thanks for your peotry, but thats not what the constitution say, if any gvt cant take the confidence in the parliament, it will fall!
The people on the street voted for those who are in the parliament!
 
Thanks for your peotry, but thats not what the constitution say, if any gvt cant take the confidence in the parliament, it will fall!
The people on the street voted for those who are in the parliament!
Man, hezballah and tayyar and their allies got their chance to make the government they wanted , that is the one with Hassan diab. And they are majoritarian in the parliament.
It turned out that Hassan diab gov was the worst ever in the history of mankind.

So one solution of five

1) ha and tayar remake a new govenrment à la hassan diab (not likely)
2) coalition gov headed by hariri (not likely)
3) independent gov headed by independent figure such as nawaf salam (also unlikely)
4) faragh 7oukoumeh (most likely) until end of 3ahed or until next parliamentary elections, whichever comes first
5) joseph aoun becomes head of a military governemnt à la michel aoun in 1989 (unlikely until now, but the chances are increasing more and more with the deployment of french army in lebanon and in the mediterranean sea.


Besides the french and the US are closely coordinating with joseph aoun on military issues and on the prospect of building a military government. We will see then who among the gentlemen in the parliament will not give his vote of confidence
 
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