Power Struggles within the Hariri Family

Orangina

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نعم هنالك وظيفة لكل منهما وهي وظيفة فطرية فرضتها قوانين الطبيعة منذ القرن صفرّ كما تقولين
وما يجري في زماننا هو الغيرّ طبيعي
لا يستعان بأمرأة لتشغلّ منصب رجلّ ألا أذا كان هنالك نقص في عدد الرجال
انا اقترح عليك ان تعود للعيش مع سكان استراليا الاصليين وتتخذ لنفسك طوطم البومة

او مع هنود اميركا

فاعتقد انه سيطيب لك العيش بين هذه القبائل حيث للمرأة وظيفة وللرجل اخرى
 
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  • Rafidi

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    It is no longer acceptable for any leader to be imposed or packaged and sent from foreign countries to rule us and execute foreign agendas in Lebanon:


     
    Nonan

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    رجاء اريد ان ترسل لي الاية المنزلة التي تقول ان الوظائف حكر على الرجال... وان المرأة تأخذ وظيفة رجل

    لم اكن اعلم ان هناك وظيفة للرجل.. ووظيفة للمرأة

    لا استطيع ان اناقش رجل بهذه العقلية المحدودة... الذي لا يرى المرأة الا من خلال منظور ذكوري يعود للقرن الصفر

    على كل ليس هذا موضوع نقاش الثريد

    اعانكم الله
    Please, don’t get him started. His perspective on gender relations is inspired by those he supports in Syria. In my humble opinion, he likely has not had the chance to meet someone from the other gender and hence has no clue what he’s talking about.
     
    Rafidi

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    it's OK, you're a woman, it's natural for you to be emotional rather than logical.
    Rafik el Hariri didn't destroy Lebanon, the Sectarian political parties did (due to their commitments to the embassies they work for) !!
    Then Hariri came with the money because there was no one else !! just like now !!
    Had these sectarian trash cans not destroy Lebanon and were true patriots who believed in Lebanon as a country and not
    as sectarian ranches .. there would be no need for Hariri nor Gulf money. Lebanon was doing fine pre-1975 !!
    Seet Carol, Bahaa ma ra7 yshemmah.
     
    Rafidi

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    Ba3ed na2esna the third appointed Saudi - American governor. Thankfully, he wont get parliament approval except through the present majority or if the present majority fall for a foreign plot.

     
    NewLeb

    NewLeb

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    Hariri’s political clout is dependent upon on how well the current government does in tackling the economic question (it’s doing a dismal job).

    Hezbollah and its leftist allies are trying to change thousands of years of socio-economic history. They want to turn Lebanon into farmland and industry warehouses. It’s going to get real ugly....
     
    Mukifesto2

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    Abandoned by his allies, ridiculed by his opponents, publicly attacked by his own brother. It's clear that Saad Hariri is on very weak political footing.

    His supporters will rally behind him in the face of such adversity, but for how long? Hariri has mostly been a political failure over 15 years. The Future Movement under him is suffering financially, in addition to being under increasing pressure from the judiciary (locally and abroad). The Hariri legacy is loudly being put into question.
    Get rid of Hariri. He is weak and indecisive.

    Time for a strong militant Sunni to take the reign.
     
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    Carol Friandise

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    Ba3ed na2esna the third appointed Saudi - American governor. Thankfully, he wont get parliament approval except through the present majority or if the present majority fall for a foreign plot.
    مزبوط يا جوجو الناس بتقرر
     
    fidelio

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    نعم هنالك وظيفة لكل منهما وهي وظيفة فطرية فرضتها قوانين الطبيعة منذ القرن صفرّ كما تقولين
    وما يجري في زماننا هو الغيرّ طبيعي
    لا يستعان بأمرأة لتشغلّ منصب رجلّ ألا أذا كان هنالك نقص في عدد الرجال
    Even that particular "wazifa fitriyya" as you so eloquently put it, has been replaced by a goat and a female camel when your desert friends managed to decimate every woman in sight.
     
    loubnaniTO

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    Regrettably, discussions in this thread quickly escalated to personal attacks. Kindly refrain from any insults and personal attacks, and respect the subject of this thread. Any posts that violate forum rules will be deleted and posters will be warned/suspended. Thank you.
     
    I

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    The power struggle is a regional one and not simply a brotherly feud.

    So Bahaa is going to play Rafic Hariri's 92 card, with an understanding between Syria and Saudi Arabia.

    It may work; it all depends on the achievements of Diab and on the willingness of the Western countries to help.
     
    Abou Sandal

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    Another vile and corrupt Wahhabi educated Saudi affiliated guy, claiming the thrown of Lebanon.
     
    Joe tayyar

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    ...And suddenly Bahaa is endorsing 17 October so called revolution, with the slogan killoun ye3neh killoun!Time to ask who was funding and who started it to kick out Saad. If bahaa wants them all out, then who will name him for PM. Let him run for elections, ykassir rasso howi w khayyo and later we speak. So far we have a gvt, i doubt that Diab will step down for bahaa!
     
    Carol Friandise

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    The power struggle is a regional one and not simply a brotherly feud.
    So Bahaa is going to play Rafic Hariri's 92 card, with an understanding between Syria and Saudi Arabia.
    It may work; it all depends on the achievements of Diab and on the willingness of the Western countries to help.
    Diab is paving the way for Bahaa.
    You should understand that Lebanese have proved that they are incompetent at ruling
    themselves. I know that you hate to hear this but it's the truth. The firzli latmieh is not a so old proof of this.
    Saudi Arabia will not leave Lebanon to be swallowed by Iran and face the fate Syria and Iraq. Because this will
    happen without a doubt if things are left the way they are right now.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    ...And suddenly Bahaa is endorsing 17 October so called revolution, with the slogan killoun ye3neh killoun!Time to ask who was funding and who started it to kick out Saad. If bahaa wants them all out, then who will name him for PM. Let him run for elections, ykassir rasso howi w khayyo and later we speak. So far we have a gvt, i doubt that Diab will step down for bahaa!
    I agree with you 100%

    It shows they really see the country as a toy they and their foreign masters can play with and impose rulers on without considering the fact that we have a parliamentary structure and some form of democratic system in place.

    There is a majority in parliament and the Future Movement headed by his brother isnt part of that majority. His brother was first nominated for political and sectarian considerations and his brother was voted for in parliamentary election and got most Sunni votes. His brother chose to step aside because he placed a condition. He said he wont form a govt unless he is the sole decision maker in its formation. In a government based on sectarian quotas, and in a country where he only represents Sunni voted, granting him that wish was equal to igniting a civil war. It was a measure that could have abolished the Taef accord and the power sharing of cabinet seats based on sectatuan quotas. The parliamentary majority refused to accept his condition and he apologized that he cant form a new govt. We now have a clean and fresh face not linked to any family politics and corrupt dynasties. We cant afford in this critical time to disrupt the govt of Diab and use another 6 months to form a new govt. because all of a sudden Mr Bahaa wants to assume his role in family politics and to make the PM office in Lebanon look like a CEO position in one of the Hariri owned companies. Going months before forming a new govt at this point would be suicidal for the country and the weak economy.

    If Bahaa wants to join politics, he should contest for parliament in 2022. It is just a year and half away. Let him start now to spray money and impact positively on the lives of Sunnis and Lebanese generally. In other words, let him start his campaign now. He can even establish a new party, whether with a sectarian image or a cross sectarian movement. If he wins, then he can be considered worthy of becoming a PM.

    Otherwise, trying to hijack power with the kellon ya3neh kellon slogan wont make him become anything but an opportunistic foreign agent. Based on the slogan itself, his family is among the "kellon ya3neh kellon". Directly or indirectly, he is a beneficiary of corruption and the sick state of the Lebanese economy.
     
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