President Aoun's Initiative to Establish a Common Economic Market in the Levant

Dr. Strangelove

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Yesterday, President Aoun's communication and political advisor Antoine Constantine declared the following:



What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you see this as a worthy initiative? Do you believe it is somehow attainable?
 

Steven Gerrard

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How can you establish a common market with other countries when you have nothing to offer?

Sara7a this is la la land thinking.
 

Patriot

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a great initiative between a bunch of bankrupt countries
please let me know what you're planning to sell to bilad ma bayn al nahrayn
 

Dr. Strangelove

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How can you establish a common market with other countries when you have nothing to offer?

Sara7a this is la la land thinking.
This is a misconception. We have plenty to offer.
Here's a couple of tweets on the matter:




That second tweet excludes agricultural products and exports to MENA countries.
And there are other resources to consider as well, such as water, the health sector and many others.
 
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Dr. Strangelove

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a great initiative between a bunch of bankrupt countries
please let me know what you're planning to sell to bilad ma bayn al nahrayn
This is your immediate vicinity. Your borders. There is huge potential to expand the market for products you make and can't sell, plus allow for space to grow in productivity - growth we desperately need.

Oh boy, you should have seen what that unashamed idiot you love you so much said about the matter:



7mar khales. The difference between the political maturity and vision of someone like Aoun and the petty, narrow thinking of a hack like Soueid is painfully obvious.
 

Steven Gerrard

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This is a misconception. We have plenty to offer.
Here's a couple of tweets on the matter:



That second tweet excludes agricultural products and exports to MENA countries.
And there are other resources to consider as well, such as water, the health sector and many others.
A few items does not mean we are a country of exports. Also the list is vague it does not consider the client strength and quantities sold.

Our agriculture is not competitive, we lack any sort of investment or products to sell abroad and we import oranges from Egypt because they are cheaper than Lebanese ones. We also lack equipment, talk to anyone in the agricultural business and they would tell you the same.

Establish a product first, export more than you import, create a competitive advantage and find clients who can buy in huge quantities. Then create a common market.

We also import raw materials!! And use $$$
 

Dr. Strangelove

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A few items does not mean we are a country of exports. Also the list is vague it does not consider the client strength and quantities sold.

Our agriculture is not competitive, we lack any sort of investment or products to sell abroad and we import oranges from Egypt because they are cheaper than Lebanese ones. We also lack equipment, talk to anyone in the agricultural business and they would tell you the same.

Establish a product first, export more than you import, create a competitive advantage and find clients who can buy in huge quantities. Then create a common market.
We are not country of exports, but we have the potential to be. We have a lot to offer. A big reason why we are not as productive as we should be is because of this manufactured state of dependency upheld by the cartels and the serial loaners/ass-kissers of Political Harirism. This state of dependency will need to be shed if Lebanon is to survive, going forward... And we'll need agreements like the one being proposed here.

I maintain that such an initiative will need years to fully mature. We have an idea of what our market can be with the right vision and investment. Plus, there is a diplomatic side that needs to be addressed first. "Dass el nabad". It's better to start setting things in motion right now than later, don't you think?
 

Walidos

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A few items does not mean we are a country of exports. Also the list is vague it does not consider the client strength and quantities sold.

Our agriculture is not competitive, we lack any sort of investment or products to sell abroad and we import oranges from Egypt because they are cheaper than Lebanese ones. We also lack equipment, talk to anyone in the agricultural business and they would tell you the same.

Establish a product first, export more than you import, create a competitive advantage and find clients who can buy in huge quantities. Then create a common market.

We also import raw materials!! And use $$$
You are also forgetting services, and tax free import/export from/to these countries. No doubt this is a good thing.
My only feedback is that we need to form a government first...!
 

Dr. Strangelove

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You are also forgetting services, and tax free import/export from/to these countries. No doubt this is a good thing.
My only feedback is that we need to form a government first...!
Yeah, for sure. Many things have to happen on the way to this sort of agreement. We need a functioning state with clear policies related to industry, agriculture, technology and commerce... For starters!
 

The_FPMer

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Lebanon's market: 5 million vs. Close to 60 million.
You meant that as a positive or a negative? They could flood our market with their low-quality products, this is no trivial matter. What his means to our medication? Will we stop getting our drugs from the West? Will it stretch later to "Iraqi" (Iranian) arms as well? etc. t

I'm not downing the initiative at all, on the contrary. At least PMA is proposing something instead of the 24/7 full-on negativity exhibited from the other side, although as usual it should have been proposed years and years earlier. But we need to be cynically optimistic because there are bigger forces at play here.
 

JB81

Legendary Member
You meant that as a positive or a negative? They could flood our market with their low-quality products, this is no trivial matter. What his means to our medication? Will we stop getting our drugs from the West? Will it stretch later to "Iraqi" (Iranian) arms as well? etc. t

I'm not downing the initiative at all, on the contrary. At least PMA is proposing something instead of the 24/7 full-on negativity exhibited from the other side, although as usual it should have been proposed years and years earlier. But we need to be cynically optimistic because there are bigger forces at play here.

Of course the products have to meet Lebanese standards, regulations and safety net.

But once it passes, these products should be tax free.

Thinking that the Lebanese products are higher in quality; Lebanon can have advantage in this.

Mostly, I think Aoun's proposal came after Iraq and Lebanon exchanging oil for medical assistance. These countries can assist each other in times of need, minimum.

Let's have much corporation between these countries, and let each benefit from each other
 

Mrsrx

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This is why I agree with Dan azzi @Dr. Strangelove
@Dr. Strangelove Why are we talking only about production. A deal like that would benefit the Transit sector that has been on hold for years (due to the syrian war) that was key to bringing foreign currency into the country..we held 5 yrs after we became an island. Beirut port (once rebuilt) can go back to providing the link between the mediteranean and Damascus/Jordan and Iraq (along with syrian ports). Many very prosperous countries are built on this concept along with a very liberal financial sector (thinking dubai and singapore...we are far from there but first steps need to be taken) ...
 

CitizenOfTheRepublic

Legendary Member
Lebanon already has established a brand for more expensive but better quality goods, a leftover of its golden era. The rest of the countries go for the cheaper segment. I think it’s a natural fit. We should add Egypt as well
 
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The_FPMer

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@Dr. Strangelove Why are we talking only about production. A deal like that would benefit the Transit sector that has been on hold for years (due to the syrian war) that was key to bringing foreign currency into the country..we held 5 yrs after we became an island. Beirut port (once rebuilt) can go back to providing the link between the mediteranean and Damascus/Jordan and Iraq (along with syrian ports). Many very prosperous countries are built on this concept along with a very liberal financial sector (thinking dubai and singapore...we are far from there but first steps need to be taken) ...
Excuse the seemingly stupid question, but why would Jordan opt for Lebanon when they have a trade deal with Israel and why would Syria consistently rely on Beirut port when they have Latakia? Why would they give us this benefit?
 
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