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Press Conference following the Meeting of Christian Leaders

Orange Patriot

Well-Known Member
Press Conference following the Meeting of Christian Leaders


Our meeting tonight was to confirm a request for the participation of all the Lebanese on Tuesday in a general strike. This strike came as a result of the lack of spirit of responsibility by the government and its allies.

Because it is not required in any case, a government that has shredded the constitution and laws It has even shredded respect for the constitution.

It has ignored the laws.
Ignored all the laws created in our history.

We also know that they have stopped the department of accounting. We do not know what they are or are not spending.

And so we also are not able to monitor why this increasing debt is happening. Two years without auditing and presently there is no objective by this government and this government doesn’t care about 1.5 million Lebanese that protest from the 1st to 10th of December.

All these issues will be followed by a Reform Plan. We are with the success of Paris III and we want international help. Therefore, in actuality a reform plan would allow us to get out of this economic stagnation and allow us to return to be able to pay back our debt. We don’t just work to close our debt. We understand that the first year we may get money or help in order to cover the interest. The next year would also need to increase the debt in order to pay the interest on it.

And where is the plan to fight corruption?! Corruption is behind the 45 Billion dollars of debt.

Therefore we are asking for all the Lebanese to go on strike against this government that ruined our economy and placed us in debt since 1992.

We ask the schools to go on strike so parents can be able to pay tuition fees.

We appeal to the business persons to help us preserve the buying power of people so they can buy from them.
They are complaining about having to strike but how do they expect people to afford to buy?
They want to open a business without customers?
…with buying power running out from customers?

Let them think about it a little more and not think about it from a political perspective only. Let them keep in mind that the country is taking risks economically and the economic plan that they proposed are not the reforms that will salvage the country.

Where is the national blessing that will pass this reform plan? Its non existent.


We hope that all Lebanese will participate in the strike so that:

the government realizes that its people are not following it.

and that the international powers supporting the government can support the government in everything and anywhere EXCEPT our internal problems which is up to US to solve.

We respect all the international decisions, but we also respect our internal politics.
We don’t want to let external foreign powers participate in our internal economic or political issues.

The UN can create international resolutions. We are respecting them, but no one enter here. There is no country that can solve our problems and no country that can enforce its politics upon us.

We solve our problems between ourselves.

We hope that everyone participates in the strike.


Questions:

- Is this a one day strike or open-ended?

One day. More information will come on the news on the day of the strike.

- Second, on what basis will a citizen not go to his job?

It is requested that a citizen not go to his/her job and strike. On top of that we are saying that there is a strike and all the markets are closed. He cant buy or sell…and maybe not even reach his job.


We are not going to hold arms and close things by force, but we are advising to participate in the strike. In order for there to be places that can still sell they should strike becuase in a year there might not be people able to buy or in the very least they will be able to buy 10% less.

There will be more debt.

We are going to make them understand by numbers:

Paris I: 24 Billion

Paris II: 36 Billion

Paris III: 45 Billion

Paris IV may very well not be needed because we will be under the international control politically and economoically.

- General, you mentioned that there may be people that might not be able to reach their jobs. Can i understand from your words that there is going to be a cutting-off of roads and gatherings on roads? What are you suggesting by these words?

I am suggesting what I’m suggesting. We are advising people not to go down because there is a strike. This is a legal request. We are not challenging/threatening anyone.

- Will there be a strike on the ground and cutting off of roads?

Of course there will be a strike. Cuttng-off of roads, we will see how people conduct themselves.

-Will there be burning of wheels?

You will see in the morning. Before you get into your cars you will see smoke from far away if they burn wheels. This is the one thing you can see from far away.

- We are used in past to see multi religious conferences, why is this meeting just Christian?

There are regional concerns. Regional organization, not because we are Christians gathering.

The general opposition meetings are discussion. And now there is an implementation of decisions.

- How are you going to deal with people if they would like to go to work?

We are certainly not going to deny anyone. If they can arrive, then so be it, but we advise them not to.

- General in case this strike becomes an open one, in other words the government doesn’t fall are there other plans?

Don’t ask me what is going to happen after 50 years. There is a strike on Tuesday and keep up with us on Tuesday to know what will happen after Tuesday.

- General, returning to a previous question. Should the protests and strikes not provide results, could we possibly hear from the opposition what we heard after the July War: If protests lead to no results then we will do what needs to be done?

No, it will provide results. In the end there has to be people behind the government and I’m telling you that the constitutional disagreements and the legality of the government is outside the law and has given more incentive to the people to do this a lot more than from what we [the opposition] are doing right now.

Let them beware that the civility in the beginning that existed in the protests, may have given them a false understanding that “these people” maybe cant do more than this.

We have incentive a lot more than what we are showing, because when the government puts holes in the Constitution and enters into the Code of the Mafia, it has gone outside the Law. We want a government that respects the Law.

- How will you deal with the security forces if it turns to… if they move you off the roads…

…We have no problems at all with the security forces. No one will have anything to do with them. We are still a peaceful movement.

- General have the mediations failed?

Everytime ambassadors interfere it ruins things. This has been my opinion from the past and I say again: If we Lebanese cannot solve the problems, the interference of ambassadors complicates things. Had there not been intereference by ambassadors, everything would have been solved on the first day.

There is no prime minister that stands in the face of a protest of 1.5 million.

Therefore, support is coming from outside the country and I advised…a long time ago… before we started the strike…the protests… I told PM Sanioura and I will remind him

“PM Sanioura, do not think you’re as big the Unitesd States if you have the United States supporting you. Your size is that of the Lebanese people that support you. And I re-remind you, do not think, do not use... the accusation of religion, or of sectarianism. You are dealing with people that don’t have fears! We are not attacking the sunnis, nor are we going to change the position of sunnis in governance!”

We are blaming a prime minister whos record was poor.
His economic record was poor.
His political record was poor.
He cant possess the trust of the citizens. It is not appropriate for him to only possess the trust of the sunni in order to stay in power! There is no one in a general position that will possess only the trust of the sunnis…or Christians..etc.

Therefore, here he has to realize that he cannot yistamir bil hokm. …and this is our constitution and this is the constitution of Taef that they placed and respect…

… and everyday at breakfast they remind us of the Taef Accord
… and at lunch time they remind us of the Taef Accord
… and at dinner they remind us of the Taef Accord

And NOT ONCE… did they respect the Taef Accord or its spirit!

-General, the security in Lebanon is open to all possibilities… have you coordinated with the security forces and told them where your lines are and where you will be moving around in order to preserve the security of the citizens?

A citizen is not going to attack another citizen. It’s a regular day. Surely the security forces are prepared for a strike and a congregation of people.

-Is it true security forces have given you a red line?

No.
 

fpm_stanford

Active Member
- We are used in past to see multi religious conferences, why is this meeting just Christian?

There are regional concerns. Regional organization, not because we are Christians gathering.

The general opposition meetings are discussion. And now there is an implementation of decisions.

recheck the title of the thread and the explanation of GMA and find the mistake.
 

fpm_stanford

Active Member
What were the regional concerns that made Michel El Murr and Hovic Mekhterian to meet with Sleyman Frangieh?

the base of FPM, Marada, Murr and Tashnag overlap in each one's strongholds (metn, batroun, zgharta...).

thus the "regional" concerns. they need to coordinate their actions in those "regions".

it's not hard once you break it down to small parts.
 

kalam_ennas

New Member
the base of FPM, Marada, Murr and Tashnag overlap in each one's strongholds (metn, batroun, zgharta...).

thus the "regional" concerns. they need to coordinate their actions in those "regions".

it's not hard once you break it down to small parts.


So Murr and Tashnag have a popular base in batroun and zgharta?
And Sleyman has a popular base in Meten?

On a side not, FPM has a popular base in Aley and Shouf. Why wasnt Erslane part of the meeting that was made due to "regional" concerns?

Same for Baabda who is considered a stronghold for both Hizballah FPM and Erslane... Why wasnt Nassrallah or any Hizballah representative in the meeting?
 

fpm_stanford

Active Member
So Murr and Tashnag have a popular base in batroun and zgharta?
And Sleyman has a popular base in Meten?

On a side not, FPM has a popular base in Aley and Shouf. Why wasnt Erslane part of the meeting that was made due to "regional" concerns?

Same for Baabda who is considered a stronghold for both Hizballah FPM and Erslane... Why wasnt Nassrallah or any Hizballah representative in the meeting?

FPM and Marada share common ground in the north.
FPM and Tashnag share common ground in metn
FPM and Murr share common groun in metn.
(again, it's not hard... you could have figured it out yourself instead of making innocent silly comments)

as for the base that is in Aley and Shouf, and in da7ieh and south who tells you that there wasn't a meeting about those regions? you haven't hear what GMA said (but i don't blame you, it wouldn't be the first time). He clearly stated that the opposition held a meeting before this one and coordinated the steps (ie with HA, Erslane, frangieh, murr..), and then this meeting took place to prepare for specific regions. then each party hold a specific meeting like the one that was done today (sunday) by FPM at Rabieh guest house.
you need to picture in your head a pyramid, or tree with branches... maybe it would help the point get accross :S

finally what if the agreement that each region be delegated to a specific side in the mou3arada?
wait for tuesday and see :biggrin:
 
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