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Rima Fakih a Lebanese American Miss USA

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Danny Z

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Rony Seikaly, Carlos Ghosn, Carlos Slim and now Rima Fakih...

Lebanese are the best, just give them a chance.

Dude,

Rony Seikaly plays good basketball, Carlos Ghosn became the richest man in the world, but what did Rima do? be born? We need to stop making out of it a big deal, she was born pretty with a good metabolism that doesn't make her fat even if she eats a full pizza as she says, what's so heroic about this? Unless she did some plastic surgery and then the doctor would be the hero not her.
 

Elvis left the building

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hot is hot, no matter what's in the pot

what's important is that we get to claim we had something to do with something we didnt have anything to do with but who is rich/smart/hot
 

Dry Ice

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Dude,

Rony Seikaly plays good basketball, Carlos Ghosn became the richest man in the world, but what did Rima do? be born? We need to stop making out of it a big deal, she was born pretty with a good metabolism that doesn't make her fat even if she eats a full pizza as she says, what's so heroic about this? Unless she did some plastic surgery and then the doctor would be the hero not her.

Carlos Slim is the richest man on earth while Ghosn has become one of the most successful CEO's.

As for Rima, beauty alone does not work - she must have worked on herself to get where she is, like hitting the gym, taking care of her looks, her body language, composure, expression, speech, etc..

To just assume it's a metabolism thing is simplification.
 

Booyakasha

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Rony Seikaly, Carlos Ghosn, Carlos Slim and now Rima Fakih...

Lebanese are the best, just give them a chance.

Rima won't be the best before she does Sports Illustrated and FHM photo shoots. :2241:

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And what's the fuss about her pole-dancing? Who knows what in the world the rest of those girls must have done during their college spring break?

It's a beauty pageant, it is supposed to be devoid of intellect (just check her answers that got her elected and you'll know what I mean) and pole-dancing fits in a similar category to the acceptable exhibitionism that has always been the main driver of this type of events.
 

Danny Z

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Carlos Slim is the richest man on earth while Ghosn has become one of the most successful CEO's.

As for Rima, beauty alone does not work - she must have worked on herself to get where she is, like hitting the gym, taking care of her looks, her body language, composure, expression, speech, etc..

To just assume it's a metabolism thing is simplification.

ghelbatna bil carlosiyye.
Anybody can hit the gym and take care of her looks, have you heard of lebanese women? There is nothing heroic in that. All those girls that were in the pageant also hit the gym.
 

Dry Ice

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ghelbatna bil carlosiyye.
Anybody can hit the gym and take care of her looks, have you heard of lebanese women? There is nothing heroic in that. All those girls that were in the pageant also hit the gym.

Why are you dramatizing your argument with "heroic" features that weren't mentioned in the first place.

This woman ranked as best in America's beauty pageant, she worked for it and deserves it, unless it has to be squarely metabolism or heroism (two extremes).
 

Danny Z

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Why are you dramatizing your argument with "heroic" features that weren't mentioned in the first place.

This woman ranked as best in America's beauty pageant, she worked for it and deserves it, unless it has to be squarely metabolism or heroism (two extremes).

because you are putting her next to big names while the achievement is any is not comparable with any of the others.
Have you heard of Bechara Choucair commissioner of the Chicago Department of public health? If you need to mention Lebanese people who worked hard to excel, you can mention him next to Ghosn but innou to mention a girl that walks on the cat walk and make of it a big achievement comparable to that of Carlos Ghosn, innou takhanta shway.
 

NMA

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Dude,

We need to stop making out of it a big deal, she was born pretty with a good metabolism that doesn't make her fat even if she eats a full pizza as she says, what's so heroic about this?.


That doesnt make sense,

What did fayruz do then ? she was born with good vocal cords and sang her husband's and kid songs ? what's so heroic about this ?
 

Danny Z

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That doesnt make sense,

What did fayruz do then ? she was born with good vocal cords and sang her husband's and kid songs ? what's so heroic about this ?

There is a part of luck in it true, but singing is not just chords, some people don't even have good chords and end up being famous singers. Fayrouz is part of Rahbani melodies and lyrics and part marketing of a good arab image and part good chords. She never sang ta2ati2, she never sang in restaurants. She maintained an image even though the money did not come along with it. There is talent in the singer, in the song writer and producer, there is talent in the production and marketing, it was a complete work that took decades to prosper. People know Fairuz for her songs, for the lyrics, for the melody. Haifa wehbe is a singer too, what is she known for?
Fairuz did not just walk on a catwalk and win the slim tummy competition, Rima did.
A year from now if Rima doesn't do anything beyond being pretty, she will be forgotten. Fairuz will not be forgotten.
 

ecce homo

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Miss USA Rima Fakih 'pride' of hometown in Lebanon

SRIFA, Lebanon (AFP) – Newly-crowned Miss USA Rima Fakih is the pride of her native village, with residents saying the Lebanese-American not only brought honour to southern Lebanon but also offered a different image of Shiite Muslims often stereotyped as radicals.

"She is an honour to us, a honour to all of southern Lebanon," her paternal aunt Afifa Fakih Said told AFP in Srifa, the beauty queen's hometown.

Residents of the southern village watched 24-year-old Rima compete in three categories -- swimsuit, evening gown and interview -- before winning the Miss USA title on Sunday.

Proudly showing off her niece's photograph on the front page of local newspapers, her aunt Afifa offered baklava pastries to wellwishers pouring in to her home.

A supersized framed photograph of Rima, whose family is Shiite Muslim, earlier winning the Miss Michigan crown hangs in Afifa's living room.

"We are so often described as terrorists and killers, but we Shiites love life and beauty -- and mainly the beauty of the soul, which is what is so special about Rima," said the veiled 62-year-old, who speaks English and French fluently.

"In this family, we are open to all religions," she said. "We have no political affiliation to anyone."


Srifa falls in an area largely controlled by Shiite militant group Hezbollah, which is blacklisted as a terrorist group by Washington.

In an interview with Lebanese television on Tuesday morning, Hezbollah MP Hassan Fadlallah was asked his opinion on the new Miss USA.

"The criteria through which we evaluate women are different from those of the west," he said.


Rima Fakih, who may represent the United States in the Miss Universe pageant later this year, emigrated from Srifa to the United States when she was seven years old.

She attended a Catholic school in New York until 2003, when her family moved to Michigan.

She went on to earn a college degree in economics from the University of Michigan and was a resident of Dearborn, which is home to a large Arab-American community, prior to her crowning as Miss USA.

Fakih proudly told pageant organisers that her family celebrates both Muslim and Christian holidays.

Her sister Rana, who lives in Lebanon with her husband and children, told AFP the Fakih family was proud of their dual heritage.

"Rima called me from the podium after her win in tears of happiness to tell me she was elected Miss USA," said the 35-year-old. "Our father, who was there with her, kept saying she was an honour for south Lebanon.

"We are both Lebanese and American. In the United States no one asks us if we are Sunni or Shiite Muslims, we are all under the US law," she added.

"In our home, there is none of the fanaticism that exists in some Lebanese households."


Despite her dark, cascading waves and toned body, the new Miss USA has come under fire by right-wing bloggers, who have dubbed her a "terrorist in a bikini."

"Don?t let her lack of a headscarf and her donning a bikini in public fool you. Miss Michigan USA, Rimah (sic) Fakih is a Muslim activist and propagandist extraordinaire," wrote conservative political commentator Debbie Schlussel in her blog.

"It?s a sad day in America but a very predictable one, given the politically correct, Islamo-pandering climate in which we?re mired," wrote Schlussel, who slammed Fakih as a "Hezbollah-supporting Shiite Muslim."

Fakih sparked further controversy on Monday when pictures of her competing in a pole dancing contest surfaced on the Internet, although she apparently did not undress in the all-girls competition.

But others are rallying in support of the young beauty queen.

"It is sad what we have come to in this country when we can't come together and agree that Rima Fakih is just incredibly hot," tweeted "Degringolade."
 

ecce homo

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Miss USA controversies storm the blogosphere

And you thought beauty queens' infighting was fierce. No pageant managed by The Donald would be complete without its own outbreak of culture war.

Last year, of course, there was Miss USA's great Carrie Prejean controversy — when the reigning Miss California upheld marriage as an exclusively heterosexual insitution after celebrity blogger Perez Hilton asked about gay matrimony. (That dustup was eventually overtaken by Prejean's own naughty-photo scandal, which Donald Trump himself eventually arbitrated.)

This week, Lebanese-American immigrant Rima Fakih of Michigan was crowned Miss USA — maybe the first contestant of Arab or Muslim background to win, though the pageant's records are incomplete.

There were, of course, the usual day-after revelations about the new titlist's past media exploits: pictures from a 2007 pole-dancing competition and an appearance in a salaciously titled independent video production. But she remained fully clothed in both outings. In fact, the most provocative photos that have surfaced of her seem to be the official lingerie shots taken under the auspices of the pageant.

Instead, the highest decibels have been reserved for her Muslim Arab background (though the contestant herself has spoken little about religious matters, stressing that her family observes both Muslim and Christian holidays).

Daniel Pipes, who publishes a right-leaning blog on Middle Eastern affairs, pointed to a "surprising frequency of Muslims winning beauty pageants." While allowing that "they are all attractive" — Pipes, a former board member of the U.S. Institute for Peace, posted pictures of several — he said that their victories "make me suspect an odd form of affirmative action."

Pipes didn't theorize how shadowy beauty-pageant fixers might be greasing the skids for contestants — but other political bloggers were happy to advance more heated pronouncements.

"Miss Hezbollah is now Miss USA," declared conservative radio talk show host Debbie Schlussel, saying that Fakih's relatives in Lebanon had ties to the terrorist organization based there. Schlussel also said Fakih received some financial backing from onetime Hezbollah supporter Imad Hamad — or, as Schlussel put it, Fakih's "bid for the pageant was financed by an Islamic terrorist." Suggesting the pageant was "rigged," Schlussel wrote off Fakih's victory to a "politically correct, Islamo-pandering climate."

Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin saw a conspiracy afoot, too — generic rather than Muslim-specific this time. Malkin mocked Fakih as a "gaffetastic" contestant who tripped over her gown as well as over her answer to a question about birth control — exposing Fakih's ignorance, Malkin argued, about what constitutes a "controlled substance" and what the purpose of health care is. "Looks like the Miss USA pageant didn't want to risk the wrath of the open-borders mob," Malkin said.

Immigration was in fact another flashpoint of political controversy over the contest. Runner-up Morgan Elizabeth Woolard of Oklahoma was asked for her views on Arizona's recent immigration law, a question that drew boos from the crowd before the judge — actor Oscar Nunez of "The Office" — could even finish getting it out.

Nor was the crowning ceremony the only flashpoint of political controversy in last night's contest. The runner-up contestant, Miss Oklahoma Morgan Elizabeth Woolard, was asked by a judge — actor Oscar Nunez from "The Office" — for her views on Arizona's recent immigration law, a question that drew boos from the crowd before he could even finish getting it all out.

When he did deliver the question, asking whether immigration enforcement "should be mandated by the state or by the federal government," Woolard replied that she was "a huge believer in states' rights," then added: "I think it's perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law, and I'm against illegal immigration. But I'm also against racial profiling, so I see both sides in this issue."

"Fox & Friends" host Gretchen Carlson (herself a former Miss America) suggested that perhaps Woolard's conservative-leaning "informed opinion" was enough for the judges to exercise political correctness and award the crown to Fakih over a blonde from Oklahoma.

Foreign commentators, meanwhile, have seized on the whole Miss USA episode as a prime example of (as the Guardian's Richard Adams calls it) "America's weirdness." You might look at Fakih's victory as a certain kind of "triumph" of the West, the Spectator's Alex Massie says, representing "a form of emancipation or at least cultural assimilation that might be thought useful (in as much as such contests can ever be considered useful)."

Yahoo! News asked 1996 Miss USA winner Ali Landry what she thinks about it all. She says she's sorry to see the pageant's sharp turn into public controversy, though she adds that she's "very grateful" for the opportunities that accompanied the title.

She stresses that the pageant has amped up its political and cultural visibility under Trump's stewardship.

"Back when I competed, Trump had not purchased it yet, and it was very tame and the questions were very general," Landry said. "But now it's all about the ratings. So you have 17-, 18-, 19-year-old girls who haven't lived their lives yet, who don't have much life experience, being asked to form strong opinions about things."

Landry, who now works frequently as an actress and recently launched a line of children's clothes, also conceded that even before the Trump era, the Miss USA pageant always came with lots of pressure to generate media attention.

"You have to remember, it's a business first and foremost," she said. "So I think that the controversy, whatever shape or form it's in and no matter whose expense it's at, that's ultimately good for them from a business perspective if the pageant's in the news and if they're getting good ratings."

— Brett Michael Dykes is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.
 

Booyakasha

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Despite her dark, cascading waves and toned body, the new Miss USA has come under fire by right-wing bloggers, who have dubbed her a "terrorist in a bikini."
Fox News even manages to twist the Miss USA news! :msntongue: Expect massive attacks against Fakih on the O'Reilly factor tomorrow :biggrin:

Miss Michigan Rimah Fatih Wins Miss USA

What I had plugged in as a joke about them fanatics starting the attacks by misspelling her name now seems stupid compared to those disproportionate attacks... What a bunch of narrow-minded hillbillies..

But come to think about it, their HA-allergy is similar to the reciprocal US-allergy that HA suffers from...I hope Fakih distances herself from both and spreads love and flesh in both directions.
 

suomynona

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In an interview with Lebanese television on Tuesday morning, Hezbollah MP Hassan Fadlallah was asked his opinion on the new Miss USA.

"The criteria through which we evaluate women are different from those of the west," he said.



It's a beauty contest and she was evaluated based on beauty only (and perhaps answering a couple of questions). You are free to consider whichever criterion you want to evaluate women.

In the west they have 20,000,000 times more criteria to evaluate women than in the degenerate backward-moving societies we live in, including if she is just a good housewife.

If you tried instead to evaluate women in terms of:

1. Education achievements: come check the number of women with PhDs and masters' degrees here - and also come see what they achieve career-wise.

2. Independence and responsibility: come check out the huge effort people exert here to pay for one's tuition at university and expenses by working an honest job while they're students.

3. Voluntary community service in their own countries and abroad (without stupid consideration to the religion of the people they're helping or their political affiliation) Heck I've even seen many use their own money for paying their own expenses to go help others during tragedies or even during times of peace and calm, come check how many Canadian girls are going to Africa to help and teach people during their summer breaks. And they're not rich I can assure you.

4. Moral standards, which cannot be narrowed to the tiny spectrum of behavioral patterns you're probably thinking of given your answer.

5. And this could go on forever.....

then I'm sure you'll be very sad to realize that on average most women in the west deserve the highest degree of respect there is. Sure there are exceptions everywhere, but it's not otherwise in our degenerate societies or communities.

It's my turn to generalize now: those black and white generalizations such as the MP's response above generally shows a severe lack of education and understanding of how the human-world ("bled el bashar" in arabic- without stressing on the "sh") works. So bi sharafak, [] :msnzip:

Keep saying whatever you want about the West. The truth is that no matter how imperfect the West is in your eyes (nothing is perfect btw), the vast majority of your own constituents and others are killing themselves to flee the **** societies you and others (whether they're your political opponents or allies) have created, and go to the West where they could realize their true potential, improve as human beings, and serve a greater purpose to humanity. Oh and I forgot to be treated equally and have alllllllllllllllmost equal opportunity, even from the first generation of migrants.
 

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The Conservative Rednecks are really pissed it seems, some of the things being written on some blogs are so funny.

Rima is the new Che :wink:
 

Dry Ice

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because you are putting her next to big names while the achievement is any is not comparable with any of the others.
Have you heard of Bechara Choucair commissioner of the Chicago Department of public health? If you need to mention Lebanese people who worked hard to excel, you can mention him next to Ghosn but innou to mention a girl that walks on the cat walk and make of it a big achievement comparable to that of Carlos Ghosn, innou takhanta shway.

I placed her next to the most mediatic names, wasn't making an exhaustive comparison as there are far great Lebanese out there like Dabaghi and others.
 
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