[Rumored] Lebanese Air Force to acquire Air Tractor AT-802U

Hameed

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The super tucano is way better than the hawker hunter in our situation. Regardless if it's a turboprop or not. It's a new aircraft with new avionics, weapons systems and it has a lower stall speed which means it can fly at lower speed than the hunter (which is an asset in all strike aircraft) and pinpoint the targets better.

I wouldn't mind however having some spare parts from jordan, abudhabi etc. for our hunters and have a few airworthy. they could do some air support until the tucanos/airtractors/ whatever arrives (if ever)
LOL .... you guys are hilarious ..... for a sec I was like " PIMP MY RIDE " ..... dude you are underestimating the other side too much. THE USA is MAKING FUN OF US !! ..... it is entertainment to them

Don't ***** out when they capture a pilot and slit his throat though, cause by then it would be obvious who sent him to his death
 
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    LOL .... you guys are hilarious ..... for a sec I was like " PIMP MY RIDE " ..... dude you are underestimating the other side too much. THE USA is MAKING FUN OF US !! ..... it is entertainment to them

    Don't ***** out when they capture a pilot and slit his throat though, cause by then it would be obvious who sent him to his death
    If the other side is capable of downing a SuperTucano, then they are also capable of shooting down a hunter (even more also, it has a higher heat signature).

    Do you know which aircraft is the most efficient nowadays with the USAF? not the F-15, nor the F-22 or any of those high-tech fighters. It's simply the A-10 Thunderbolt! because of its high armor, low speed capabilities and incredible firepower.

    Of course the super tucano is not comparable to the A-10, but still, it is the aircraft we actually need, not a vintage 50's jet.
     
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    If the other side is capable of downing a SuperTucano, then they are also capable of shooting down a hunter (even more also, it has a higher heat signature).

    Do you know which aircraft is the most efficient nowadays with the USAF? not the F-15, nor the F-22 or any of those high-tech fighters. It's simply the A-10 Thunderbolt! because of its high armor, low speed capabilities and incredible firepower.

    Of course the super tucano is not comparable to the A-10, but still, it is the aircraft we actually need, not a vintage 50's jet.
    Just as a side note, the ST and AirTractors are sometimes referred to as the poor man's A-10 ;)
     
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    If the other side is capable of downing a SuperTucano, then they are also capable of shooting down a hunter (even more also, it has a higher heat signature).
    your precious tocano, has BOTH HEAT SIGNATURE and NOISE !! Not all SAM work on the basis of heat signatures, the Hunter has better chance of survivor than the tocano, to flee the target area and is more maneuverable than your precious tocano.
    Do you know which aircraft is the most efficient nowadays with the USAF? not the F-15, nor the F-22 or any of those high-tech fighters. It's simply the A-10 Thunderbolt! because of its high armor, low speed capabilities and incredible firepower.
    Of course the super tucano is not comparable to the A-10, but still, it is the aircraft we actually need, not a vintage 50's jet.
    DUDE !! talk with what you have not what you wish to have !! ...... YOU HAVE THE HAWKER HUNTER .... YOU DON'T HAVE THE A-10 !!

    The other side isn't empty handed !! do you take any responsibility for a chopped pilot ? When your Tucano needs to fire, it has TO DIVE !!! ... getting out of the DIVE is the dangerous phase. it is all aerodynamic advantage and disadvantage.

    Also the A-10 doesn't fly solo and if it does, the US command would have intel on the capabilities of the enemy beforehand
     
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    The other side isn't empty handed !! do you take any responsibility for a chopped pilot ? When your Tucano needs to fire, it has TO DIVE !!! ... getting out of the DIVE is the dangerous phase. it is all aerodynamic advantage and disadvantage.
    No it doesnt. The Tocano dont dive to fire.

    Hameed, i have already told you. We are not here to give you lessons about modern aircrafts nor old ones for that matter, especially when you are acting that arrogant.

    Do your research then come back. Do not talk about stuff you have no idea about.
     
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    Also the A-10 doesn't fly solo and if it does, the US command would have intel on the capabilities of the enemy beforehand
    mesh tabi3e shou bet dallak khalet she3bein bi ramadan. Eh la2anno l Super Tucano or whatever aircraft ra7 trou7 tkazder fo2 l 7doud w tetfarraj 3al manazer men doun ma ykoun 3nda intel data, maheik ?
     
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    mesh tabi3e shou bet dallak khalet she3bein bi ramadan. Eh la2anno l Super Tucano or whatever aircraft ra7 trou7 tkazder fo2 l 7doud w tetfarraj 3al manazer men doun ma ykoun 3nda intel data, maheik ?
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    mesh tabi3e shou bet dallak khalet she3bein bi ramadan. Eh la2anno l Super Tucano or whatever aircraft ra7 trou7 tkazder fo2 l 7doud w tetfarraj 3al manazer men doun ma ykoun 3nda intel data, maheik ?
    next time read well my posts, having intel on the capabilities of the enemy is one thing and have intel on the targets and establishments of the enemy is another thing.

    No it doesnt. The Tocano dont dive to fire.

    Hameed, i have already told you. We are not here to give you lessons about modern aircrafts nor old ones for that matter, especially when you are acting that arrogant.

    Do your research then come back. Do not talk about stuff you have no idea about.
    so now contradicting the members of the forum is considered an act of arrogance.

    The ST and the Tractor has to dive to drop a bomb not talking about gunfire or missile launch .... when we talk about bombs and with such aerodynamic design, it has to dive.
     
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    next time read well my posts, having intel on the capabilities of the enemy is one thing and have intel on the targets and establishments of the enemy is another thing.


    so now contradicting the members of the forum is considered an act of arrogance.

    The ST and the Tractor has to dive to drop a bomb not talking about gunfire or missile launch .... when we talk about bombs and with such aerodynamic design, it has to dive.
    Do your research hameed and you can start by watching the video below and checking how the Air Tractor delivers its payload.

     
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    Do your research hameed and you can start by watching the video below and checking how the Air Tractor delivers its payload.

    check your tocano pic in the tocano thread, its DIVING !!
     
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    The ST and the Tractor has to dive to drop a bomb not talking about gunfire or missile launch .... when we talk about bombs and with such aerodynamic design, it has to dive.
    Dude, you're incredibly narrow minded, and borderline annoying with your bold posts.

    No body is talking about dropping bombs anymore, we're talking about launching missiles, a Hellfire for example, and that's what the super tucanos (and even our cessna now) are capable of doing. Can you understand that or you just want to argue for the sake of arguing ?
     
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    Dude, you're incredibly narrow minded, and borderline annoying with your bold posts.

    No body is talking about dropping bombs anymore, we're talking about launching missiles, a Hellfire for example, and that's what the super tucanos (and even our cessna now) are capable of doing. Can you understand that or you just want to argue for the sake of arguing ?
    good luck with your missiles, the Syrians have more missiles than you do, inta wou jo wou el LAF mekhter3een el baroud.
     
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    Dear Lord! That must be the ugliest plane I've seen in my entire life.

    On a more serious note, if the capabilities stated are true, it will be useful in anti-terrorism operations. The Lebanese Army needs light attack helicopters that can undertake hit and run attacks, scouting missions, and special-forces insertions. The MH-6 "Little Bird" springs to mind.

     
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    Only Crusader Hero Joseph Aoun is allowed

    CEREMONY CELEBRATING THE RECEPTION OF 4 SUPER TUCANO AIRCRAFTS IN HAMAT AIR BASE

    Tuesday, 12 June 2018
    Hamat Air base hosted a ceremony celebrating the reception of 4 Super Tucano aircrafts offered as a donation from the United States of America to LAF in the presence of Armed Forces Commander General Joseph Aoun, United States Ambassador Ms. Elizabeth Richard who headed an accompanying delegation in addition to high ranking officers. The ceremony started with the U.S. and Lebanese national anthems followed by an aerial display of the airplane. The Air Force Commander Brigadier General P.S.C Pilot Ziad Haykal presented a briefing that highlighted the Super Tucano capabilities and its surveillance and combat specifications. Following the briefing the new pilots were introduced and they were handed a degree marking their major in flying the Super Tucanos.
    Ambassador Richard delivered a speech afterwards where she noted that this military assistance affirms the strong ties joining Lebanon and the United States as well as the partnership based serving the interests of both friend countries. Ambassador Richard stated that the U.S. military assistance dedicated to LAF amounted to 1.5 billion dollars during the past decade and focused on developing training programs and providing state of the art military equipment and techniques. Her Excellency praised the competence of LAF and confirmed her nation’s willingness to keep on providing assistance to the military institution in the coming stage.
    General Aoun also delivered a speech in which he confirmed that this gathering renews the efficient cooperation and historic friendship binding the Armed Forces of the United States and the Lebanese Armed Forces. This highly important phase holds much significance, as it complements the previous stage in which the Lebanese Armed Forces received the first batch of Super Tucano aircrafts last year. In addition, this generous initiative indicates that the capabilities of the Lebanese Armed Forces for close air support will be in constant development, thanks to the state of the art combat and technical characteristics of these aircrafts. He concluded his speech by voicing his appreciation to all friend countries and mainly the United States for its constant support and confidence. Finally, the guests toured the area where the aircrafts were displayed and the ceremony was concluded with an Iftar in honour of the guests.

    Speech of the Armed Forces Commander General Joseph Aoun in the handover ceremony of the second batch of Super Tucano aircrafts in Hamat airbase on 12/06/2018
    Excellency, Ambassador Elizabeth Richard and accompanying delegation
    Esteemed Officers – Esteemed Audience
    We meet today in order to renew the efficient cooperation and historic friendship binding the Armed Forces of the United States and the Lebanese Armed Forces. This highly important phase holds much significance, as it complements the previous stage in which the Lebanese Armed Forces received the first batch of Super Tucano aircrafts last year. In addition, this generous initiative indicates that the capabilities of the Lebanese Armed Forces for close air support will be in constant development, thanks to the state of the art combat and technical characteristics of these aircrafts. Our meeting today confirms the firm will of the United States of America to support the Lebanese Armed Forces in the war against terrorism and to preserve their stability during the crises that the region is witnessing.

    Esteemed audience
    Our Armed Forces have gained the trust of the international society, thanks to their outstanding achievements in fighting terrorism, whether through direct military confrontation or through precisely monitoring and dismantling terrorist cells as well as arresting their members. This is considered as a major accomplishment because despite our modest military capabilities, the high combat level of our units and the good usage of available weapons and equipment were clearly visible. It is also worth mentioning that we are constantly aiming to boost our capabilities through high professionalism and through the greatly appreciated military aid offered by our international allies mainly the United States of America. These valuable donations benefit national stability and strengthen Lebanon’s position as part of the international counter-terrorism community.
    In the end, I would like to express my ultimate appreciation to the United States of America for their constant support through military equipment and training courses provided to the officers and soldiers of the Lebanese Armed Forces. Additionally, I would like to thank Ambassador Elizabeth Richard and her work team for the distinct accuracy, the close follow up and the sincere will to establish the best relations between our friend Armed Forces ever since Her Excellency assumed her diplomatic duties in Lebanon.

    Long Live the Lebanese – US friendship







     
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