Russia nuclear base in Venezuela ?a new Cuban crisis??

Is Russia sending soldiers to Venezuela

  • To support government

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • To set up a nuclear base

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • A mistake

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • A response to US deployment in Europe

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • A step towards a US Russia confrontation

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Total voters
    3
vegojimbo

vegojimbo

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I do not take sides in the fight between Russia and Ukraine.
However, I do not wish to see Russia exercising power anywhere in Americas and in this respect I take my side.
Why is the US allowed to exercise power on Russia's borders in Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, etccc but Russia has no right to be present in the Americas? Some hypocrisy and double standards from good ol' America! pffff
 
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  • proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    Why is the US allowed to exercise power on Russia's borders in Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, etccc but Russia has no right to be present in the Americas? Some hypocrisy and double standards from good ol' America! pffff
    I never said Russia does not have right ...
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    Russians can be easily isolated within Caracas airport. It goes this way by the numbers:
    . . 1. All landing strips get damaged at once -RF can no longer land it's planes with logistics and reinforcements.
    . . 2. Guido offers to regularly supply existing RF force as long as they are willing to stay or as long as Maduro is in the country or alive, whichever changes first.
    . . 3. Those RF troops that are willing to leave Venezuela will be arranged by Guido to be transferred to Brazil, Columbia, US mainland and then flown back home.
    . . 4. Done.
     
    NiceV

    NiceV

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    Russians can be easily isolated within Caracas airport. It goes this way by the numbers:
    . . 1. All landing strips get damaged at once -RF can no longer land it's planes with logistics and reinforcements.
    . . 2. Guido offers to regularly supply existing RF force as long as they are willing to stay or as long as Maduro is in the country or alive, whichever changes first.
    . . 3. Those RF troops that are willing to leave Venezuela will be arranged by Guido to be transferred to Brazil, Columbia, US mainland and then flown back home.
    . . 4. Done.
    Yes but that’s playing with fire
    It could happen military but any mistake by both could lead to use of nukes so better to have a global deal
    Europe Ukraine Syria Nukes Missiles Venezuela Sanctions
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    Legendary Member
    Yes but that’s playing with fire
    It could happen military but any mistake by both could lead to use of nukes so better to have a global deal
    Europe Ukraine Syria Nukes Missiles Venezuela Sanctions
    "Yes but that’s playing with fire" - no, it is not that dangerous. Russia does not have means for fighting long distance war.

    "It could happen military but any mistake by both could lead to use of nukes" - it is impossible to use nukes "by mistake" and Putin will not risk survival of Russia for the sake of Assad and Maduro put together.
     
    NiceV

    NiceV

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    "Yes but that’s playing with fire" - no, it is not that dangerous. Russia does not have means for fighting long distance war.

    "It could happen military but any mistake by both could lead to use of nukes" - it is impossible to use nukes "by mistake" and Putin will not risk survival of Russia for the sake of Assad and Maduro put together.
    I m not taking about Strategic Nuclear arsenal in Russia
    But about the 800 tactical nukes on Russian ships
    Any Russian soldiers dead or humiliated in great numbers could lead to a dangerous escalation
    Anyway do you think personally the US will interfere Military in the next few day’s against Venezuela
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    I m not taking about Strategic Nuclear arsenal in Russia
    But about the 800 tactical nukes on Russian ships
    Any Russian soldiers dead or humiliated in great numbers could lead to a dangerous escalation
    Anyway do you think personally the US will interfere Military in the next few day’s against Venezuela
    "Any Russian soldiers dead or humiliated in great numbers could lead to a dangerous escalation" - if they will confine themselves to Caracas airport and will not try to fight it out of there Russians will not be harmed.

    "do you think personally the US will interfere Military in the next few day’s against Venezuela" - it depends on what you call "interference", remember 1979-1989 Afghanistan?
     
    NiceV

    NiceV

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    "Any Russian soldiers dead or humiliated in great numbers could lead to a dangerous escalation" - if they will confine themselves to Caracas airport and will not try to fight it out of there Russians will not be harmed.

    "do you think personally the US will interfere Military in the next few day’s against Venezuela" - it depends on what you call "interference", remember 1979-1989 Afghanistan?
    You are talking like a Decision has been taken to attack military Venezuela
    Or to occupy it
    I think that is the question before the Russian factor
    I didn’t think Russia is interested in staying in Caracas Airport
    I think they will take some islands ? with a military presence to construct a base and to put nuclear weapons 2000 km from US shores
    They are developing Kalibr Missiles with 5000 km range
    That’s a guess not Information
    I may be wrong
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    Legendary Member
    You are talking like a Decision has been taken to attack military Venezuela
    Or to occupy it
    I think that is the question before the Russian factor
    I didn’t think Russia is interested in staying in Caracas Airport
    I think they will take some islands ? with a military presence to construct a base and to put nuclear weapons 2000 km from US shores
    They are developing Kalibr Missiles with 5000 km range
    That’s a guess not Information
    I may be wrong
    "you are talking like a Decision has been taken to attack military Venezuela or to occupy it" - It is only my opinion and I am trying to imagine what I would've done in Trump's place.
    Of course, I am not Trump and I do not have all the information that he has, but based on input at hand and on my personal understanding here it is.

    "I didn’t think Russia is interested in staying in Caracas Airport" - no Russia isn't.
    However, if we will play it right Russia will have no choice - who can occupy and hold a country with mere 99 special forces.

    "I think they will take some islands ? with a military presence to construct a base" - in this region they potentially can have only Cuba and maybe Equador.
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    IT EXPLODED


    CNN: Attempted coup underway in Venezuela
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    @LVV
    Russia is watching
    From CNN’s Mary Ilyushina and Frederik Pleitgen

    Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the unfolding situation in Venezuela with his security council, the Kremlin said in a statement today.
    “The meeting’s participants paid much attention to the situation in Venezuela in light of the news about an attempted coup,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said, according to Russian state news agency TASS.
    A small contingent of Russian military specialists is currently in Venezuela.
    The press office of the Russian embassy in Caracas told Russian state news agency RIA-Novosti that the personnel are there to undertake training and maintenance on military hardware, adding that their intervention in the unfolding situation was "out of the question."
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    Maduro: We will win!


    Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro tweeted a defiant message as opposition leader Juan Guaido raises the pressure on his beleaguered regime.
    The President said he has met with regional defense bodies, which have expressed "total loyalty." He also called for "maximum popular mobilization."
    Maduro wrote: "Nerves of Steel! I have spoken with the commanders of all the REDIs and ZODI of the country, who have expressed their total loyalty to the people, to the Constitution and to the fatherland. I call for maximum popular mobilization to ensure the victory of peace. We Will win!"
    ¡Nervios de Acero! He conversado con los Comandantes de todas las REDI y ZODI del País, quienes me han manifestado su total lealtad al Pueblo, a la Constitución y a la Patria. Llamo a la máxima movilización popular para asegurar la victoria de la Paz. ¡Venceremos!
    — Nicolás Maduro (@NicolasMaduro) April 30, 2019
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    Brazil's president: I support Guaido and the "freedom of Venezuelans"
     
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