Saudi Arabia penalizes Lebanon

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    joseph_lubnan

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    Iran tata7adda iradat elsha3b ellubnani watatadakhal biwaqa7a fi sho2oonihi watusayter 3ala seyasatihi elkharijeyye waldakhileyye watmna3 intikhab ra2ees wa tursel militia lubnaneyye tabi3a laha lituqatel fi soorya wa il 3iraq wal Yaman :)
     
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    Iran tata7adda iradat elsha3b ellubnani watatadakhal biwaqa7a fi sho2oonihi watusayter 3ala seyasatihi elkharijeyye waldakhileyye watmna3 intikhab ra2ees wa tursel militia lubnaneyye tabi3a laha lituqatel fi soorya wa il 3iraq wal Yaman :)
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    Abou Sandal

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    lol at "Thabouta Intima2ihoum"...Yalla JJ...clap for this decision...After all, you're the champion of sovereignty in this forum.

     
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    Iran tata7adda iradat elsha3b ellubnani watatadakhal biwaqa7a fi sho2oonihi watusayter 3ala seyasatihi elkharijeyye waldakhileyye watmna3 intikhab ra2ees wa tursel militia lubnaneyye tabi3a laha lituqatel fi soorya wa il 3iraq wal Yaman :)
    Did you just fart or it's your upgrade version of babbling ..bla bla bla phobia?:)
     
    LEBANESE-CIA

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    yes I farted take a deep breath :) fi askhaf mennak enta? lol you're a phenomenon :)
    Since you are always advocating "bending and licking A$$es" to outsiders, hence you are in good position to inhale :) ... it seems your babbling is an OCD phenomenon ya zizi ( a la francaise )
     
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    In era of cheap oil, Saudi loses shine for foreign workers

    "...“Saudi Arabia continues to decline as a top destination for expatriates...given the country’s higher dependence on oil revenues and the extent of planned austerity measures,” Gulf Talent, an online recruitment portal for professionals, said in a report this month. ..."

    In era of cheap oil, Saudi loses shine for foreign workers| Reuters
     
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    ردّ من مراسل «السفير» في باريس محمد بلوط، وهو مؤتمن وموثوق ولا ينشر إلا ما يعرفه يقيناً، وبالوثائق حين يحتاج الأمر:
    سعادة السفير علي العسيري، قرأت ردود فعلك عن «مخيلتي الواسعة»، وعن مقالتي في «السفير» التي وصفتها بمجافاة الحقيقة.
    أود ان اوضح لك، اننا لم نسبق كثيرا من الصحافيين في التحدث عن «العته الوعائي الملكي». نحن في «السفير» لم نفعل سوى تقديم التشخيص الصحيح لحالته الذهنية والنفسية، وشرحنا انه يعاني من «العته الوعائي» كما يعلم الاميركيون والفرنسيون. تعلم دوائر القرار الامنية والدفاعية والسياسية في الغرب بحالة الملك سلمان، والمثال الاقرب لي بحكم عملي في باريس هو فرنسا.
    يا سعادة السفير احيلك الى عدد صحيفة «لوموند» الصادر في ٢٣ كانون الثاني ٢٠١٥، اي في اليوم نفسه الذي تمت فيه مبايعة سلمان ملكا، ستجد فيه مقابلة مع السيدة فتيحة دازي - هيني التي تعمل خبيرة في معهد الدراسات الاستراتيجية لكلية الحرب الفرنسية، وهي مستشارة اساسية في قلب مؤسسة رسمية فرنسية، خبيرة في الشؤون السعودية، تعمل على تزويد مراكز القرار في الامن والدفاع والدبلوماسية والرئاسة الفرنسية بالمعلومات الضرورية للتعامل مع مملكتكم.
    تقول السيدة دازي - هيني في المقابلة «ان الملك سلمان يعاني من مرض الزهايمر، ومن صعوبات في النطق، واتذكر خطابا له في الاليزيه (عندما كان وليا للعهد)، حيث كان يصعب عليه التكلم امام الرئيس الفرنسي». وتتابع «مع مرض تلف الخلايا الدماغية، كالزهايمر، لن يكون سلمان الملك الذي انتظرناه خمسة عشر عاما، وقد كان الملك الاكثر وعدا بين ابناء الملك عبدالعزيز، وسيكون مفاجئا ان يملك لوقت طويل، ولن يكون الا ملكا انتقاليا». اكتفي بهذا القدر، ويمكنك قراءة المزيد في المقابلة، التي لا تزال على صفحات «غوغل» تحت عنوان «صحة الملك سلمان» بالفرنسية، عن صراعات الاجنحة السعودية، ودور «هيئة البيعة»، او لا دورها اذا شئت.
    وهذا كلام رسمي، من مركز دراسات تدعى خبيرته الى الجلوس الى المائدة الى جانب الملك سلمان في الاليزيه، وهي تتحدث عنه الى مؤسسات القرار الفرنسي، واجزم ان سفيركم في باريس قد قرأ المقابلة، لكنه لم يكن له جرأتك ليشكو في فرنسا الصحيفة الى اي وزير كما فعلت، او يتحدث عن مجافاة المراسل الذي اجرى المقابلة للحقيقة، وهو بالمناسبة، ليس بعيدا عنك في بيروت.
    اما قولك لتفنيد ما جاء في المقال، ان الملك ظهر في مناورات «رعد الشمال»، ويستقبل ويودع شخصيات، فلا يفند شيئا. اسأل اطباءه في مشفى سليمان الحبيب في الرياض، عن «ومضات اليقظة» التي يتمتع بها مريض العته الوعائي. فخلال الساعات العشر من النهار، قد يحظى بساعتين او ثلاث من اليقظة، وهذا هو الفرق بين الزهايمر الذي لا يسمح باي يقظة، وبين العته الوعائي، وهو في طريقه الى تدمير الدماغ، تدريجيا.
    وبناء على صورة الرنين المغناطيسي التي اجريت للملك في العام ٢٠٠٩، والتي اطلعت «السفير» على نتائجها، وبناء على التقرير الطبي الذي تلقاه الملك الراحل عبدالله عام ٢٠٠٩، والذي اطلعنا على مضمونه، قدمت توصيات بان يتجنب الاختلاط مع الاخرين لفترة طويلة، لان من شأن ذلك ان يؤدي الى ظهور سلوك عدواني. كما قدم التقرير الطبي توصية الا يرتجل اي خطاب، خصوصا وقوفا، وهو ما لم يقم به منذ ذلك الحين. ان من شأن المجهود الذهني الكثيف في مركز مراقبة التوازن فقدان السيطرة على البدن والسقوط ارضا.
    تعلم سعادة السفير ان كل تلك التوصيات، التي حملها طبيبان الى الملك عبدالله في العام ٢٠٠٩، لا يزال الديوان الملكي ملتزما بها من خلال ملاحظات الاطباء لسلوكه. وهناك توقعات طبية خطية واضحة بأن مرضه سيتفاقم خلال عام ونصف، اذا لم يتعرض قبل ذلك للسقوط ارضا. وهناك طبيبان يتابعان حالته، باستمرار في مشفى سليمان الحبيب.
    لست معنيا بقامة الملك العربية والاسلامية، وليست اساءة لتلك القامة ان اتحدث عن مرضها. المرض لم يكن يوما سبة. ما انا معني به يا سعادة السفير، هو اطلاع القراء، ما دامت صحافتنا حرة، عن احوال المريض الذي يحكم قلب العالم العربي، وكيف يتخذ قرارات، كالحرب على اليمن مثلا، رجل يعاني من العته الوعائي، ويحكم مع مرضه ملايين الانفس، والاقدار واذا كنت لا تثق بما اقول، يمكنك ان تشكوني، مع «لوموند» مثلا او من دونها، الى اية محكمة، وليأتِ كل منا بوثائقه، لنحسم الجدل، الذي تعرف جوابه في ضميرك، قبلي، وقبل الجميع.


     
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    Saudi Brinkmanship in Lebanon

    BENEDETTA BERTISaudi Arabia’s recent moves against Hezbollah and the Lebanese government could end up weakening its own allies and further destabilizing the Lebanese political arena.Thursday, March 24, 2016
    In the context of its continuing rivalry with Iran, Saudi Arabia’s response to limited success in Yemen and setbacks in Syria has been to try and reassert its influence, contain its enemies, and close ranks—reevaluating some of its alliances in the process. Recent Saudi moves to apply financial and diplomatic pressure on Lebanon suggest the country may be the first casualty of Riyadh’s new policy. But squeezing the Lebanese state may merely weaken it and Saudi Arabia’s own allies in Beirut while failing to achieve the kingdom’s strategic objectives.

    In the past, although Lebanon often served as an arena in which the Saudis competed with Iran and Syria, Riyadh nevertheless sought to find an uneasy but pragmatic working relationship with Damascus and its local allies in Beirut. For example, when Syrian troops were stationed in Lebanon following the civil war, Riyadh heavily supported post-war reconstruction and greatly invested in the Lebanese economy. While Riyadh’s investment was channeled through its main local political ally—the Hariri economic and political dynasty—it did so while trying not to step directly on Syria’s toes. Even following the shocking assassination of Rafik Hariri, the Saudi resolute stance against Syria, Iran, and their domestic allies was relatively short-lived. By 2008 Riyadh had abandoned its strategy of confrontation and instead resorted to a policy of rapprochement with Damascus, a de facto acceptance that it was impossible to end Syria’s influence on Lebanese domestic politics.

    Yet the impact of both the civil war in Syria and the rising Saudi–Iranian rivalry on Lebanon has been direct—pre-existing cleavages between the pro- and anti-Assad camp have intensified. This has led to a long and crippling paralysis of Lebanese domestic politics that has left the presidential residence, Baabda Palace, vacant since May 2014. Frustrated by recent blows to its influence in Syria and Yemen, Saudi Arabia has taken a series of assertive actions in the past few months seemingly aimed at breaking the impasse, containing Hezbollah, and attempting to force a change in Lebanon’s ambivalent regional alignment.

    The tightening of the screws officially began as a response to Lebanese Foreign Minister Gebran Bassil’s reluctance to endorse an Arab League condemnation of the January 2016 mob attack on the Saudi Embassy in Tehran, an episode triggered by the Saudi execution of prominent Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr. While Bassil—who is also the new leader of the Hezbollah-allied Free Patriotic Movement party—expressed solidarity with Riyadh, he fell short of endorsing its broader criticism of Iran’s and Hezbollah’s regional roles, citing Lebanon’s policy of “official neutrality.”

    Since then, it seems Riyadh has decided to do everything in its power to make sure that Lebanon’s regional balancing act ends once and for all. On February 19, the kingdom officially halted both a $3 billion military aid package for the Lebanese Armed Forces to buy French weapons and a separate $1 billion earmarked for the Lebanese security sector at large. Together with Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia also urged its citizens to refrain from traveling to Lebanon, historically a popular destination for Gulf tourists. While Saudi Arabia has so far held off from taking even more damaging economic moves, such as bulk withdrawal of money and investments from Lebanon or expelling Lebanese workers from Gulf countries en masse, still it is clear that Saudi Arabia is seeking to place a hefty price tag on Lebanon’s attempt to balance between Tehran and Riyadh.

    But Saudi Arabia upped the ante by seeking regional isolation for Hezbollah, Iran’s strongest ally in the country. In the past few weeks, Saudi instigation has prompted the Gulf Cooperation Counciland the Arab League, in meetings of both the Council of Arab Ministries of Internal Affairs and then the Council of Arab Ministries of Foreign Affairs, to designate Hezbollah as a “terrorist organization.” These moves were followed by GCC threats to prosecute and sanction those who work with Hezbollah indirectly. Meanwhile, Saudi ally Bahrain announced it would deport alleged Lebanese “Hezbollah supporters.”

    The success of these steps largely depends on Saudi Arabia’s strategic goals. If the kingdom hopes to pressure Lebanon into ridding the country of Iran’s and Hezbollah’s influence, then the chances of success are incredibly slim. Short of igniting internal strife—a situation which would not especially benefit anyone, including Saudi Arabia—the Lebanese government does not have the political (or military) ability to curtail Hezbollah.

    If the goal is instead not to change Lebanon’s regional stance, but rather to signal to other countries in the region that it is time to “pick a side” and unite under the Saudi flag against Iran and Hezbollah, then Saudi Arabia may have more success. Getting the Arab League to label Hezbollah a terrorist organization is one achievement on this front, even though it did elicit a degree of dissent within the league. Notably, the designation did not just raise objections in Lebanon, but also in Iraqand, to a lesser degree, in Tunisia and Algeria.

    However, any potential regional success comes with a price in Lebanon. Ironically, the biggest casualty of Saudi Arabia’s more confrontational policy toward Lebanon and Hezbollah will be its own local allies. First and foremost, former Prime Minister Saad Hariri and his Future Movement are placed in an especially difficult position. Recent Saudi pressure has prompted the movement to make more vitriolic attacks against Hezbollah. Yet Hariri’s posturing still falls short of satisfying Riyadh, which has signaled it will not back down until Lebanon rids itself of “Hezbollah interference.” Needless to say, this is an objective Hariri cannot deliver, making him look weak and isolated at a time when his March 14 coalition is confronting new divisions over the presidential elections and Hariri himself faces declining popularity within his own community. It appears to the Lebanese that Saudi Arabia is hanging Hariri out to dry and, along with him, what is left of the political capital of the forces that spurred the 2005 Cedar Revolution.

    In terms of Saudi influence in Lebanon, these moves will at best further increase the political cleavage between the competing March 14 and the March 8 camps. Indeed, finding a balance between the respective “pro-Saudi” and the “pro-Syrian-Iranian” orientations of the opposing coalitions will prove an incredibly difficult task. In addition, any long-term rift between Saudi Arabia and its domestic allies would further weaken the March 14 forces, disempowering the kingdom’s only political allies in Lebanon. At worst, Saudi withdrawal of support from Lebanon will open the door to increased Iranian political and financial involvement. Iran has already offered to step up and support the Lebanese armed forces, which would further weaken Saudi Arabia’s own influence.

    The possibility of both increased Iranian involvement in Lebanon and more political and economic instability in the fragile country has led the United States to express its misgivings with the latest Saudi maneuver. France has also criticized the move, a logical position given that its defense industry stands to lose $3 billion over the freezing of the military aid package. While neither American nor French reservations are substantial enough to have an impact on the kingdom’s bilateral relations with them, it would be worthwhile for Riyadh to take the criticism seriously. Further tightening the screws on Lebanon may not just fail to achieve Saudi’s geostrategic objectives, but complicate an already unstable and frail situation within Lebanon itself.
    Benedetta Berti is a fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS), a TED Senior Fellow, and a non-resident Senior Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute (FPRI).

    Benedetta Berti is a foreign policy and security researcher focusing on human security and internal conflicts.

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    Abou Sandal

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    And Joseph wants us to bend over and lick those retards' asses.

     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/opinion/irans-oppressed-christians.html?_r=0

    Iran’s Oppressed Christians

    By LIANA AGHAJANIANMARCH 14, 2014

    BERLIN — I met Mori in the basement of a Lutheran church in Berlin’s Zehlendorf district. A 28-year-old refugee who once ran a small business in Iran, he converted to Christianity five years ago and spoke to me on condition that I use only his first name in order to protect his identity. In 2011, delayed on the way to a secret Bible study session, he narrowly escaped when Revolutionary Guards raided his underground Evangelical church. He watched as his friends disappeared into Iran’s prison system; Mori suspects they’ve been killed.

    “When you’re Christian in Iran, you can’t speak. You have to keep quiet and not talk about the truth that you know and that you believe in,” he told me. “There is no such thing as a comfortable life in Iran.”

    Christianity of course is not alien to Iran. It arrived in ancient Persia not long after the death of Christ and has waxed and waned ever since. But in recent decades, especially in the last few years, things have grown worse. As Washington seeks rapprochement with Tehran over Iran’s nuclear and regional ambitions, the Obama administration must not let its protests over cruel treatment of Christians and other religious minorities fall by the wayside.

    Christians make up roughly less than half of 1 percent of Iran’s roughly 80 million people. Numbers are difficult to determine: There could be as many as half a million Christians in the country, according to a report by the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran. It cites research by the World Christian Database indicating that there were 270,000 living there in 2010. Most of them are ethnic Armenians and Assyrians who, though closely monitored, are able to practice their own Orthodox faith. It is the other denominations — mostly converts from Islam to Evangelical Protestantism — that are more likely to be harassed, imprisoned or even murdered.

    The World Christian Database counted 66,000 Protestants in Iran in 2010. Open Doors, a nondenominational organization tracking Christian persecution, estimates that Iran has 370,000 “new Christians from a Muslim background.” In the last decade, televised proselytizing, often by ministers from the Iranian Diaspora, has fueled the rise of Evangelical Christianity. Tehran’s ruling ayatollahs see the trend as foreign meddling meant to undermine the regime. Under Shariah law, defection from Islam is not only a sin: It is a criminal offense. Legal and ex-judicial punishment can be severe, yet refugees say that Christians have boldly begun discussing their faith with Muslim neighbors.

    Persecution is well-documented. In 2004, Hamid Pourmand, the lay leader of Jama’at-e Rabbani, the Iranian branch of the evangelical Assemblies of God, was arrested with more than 80 other members, charged with apostasy and imprisoned for years before his release. A report last year by Ahmed Shaheed, a United Nations special rapporteur, talks of Christians being “prosecuted on vaguely worded national security crimes for exercising their beliefs,” with more than 300 having been arrested since 2010.

    Mori was one of the lucky ones. In 2011, he got a fake passport, paid 7,000 euros to a smuggler and joined the rising flow of refugees. The numbers entering Germany, known for its strong record for granting asylum, have soared in recent years, from 815 in 2008 to 4,348 in 2012, and will likely well exceed that figure this year, according to the Association of Iranian Refugees in Berlin. It is difficult to say how many of these people are Christian. A spokeswoman for the federal refugee office told me the government does not keep records on the religious affiliation of applicants.

    Moreover, Iranians living in cramped conditions in converted schools and barracks are careful to keep their distance from one other, wary of talking about their cases or their lives back home. Many fear that Iranian government spies have been planted among them, a regular practice of Iran’s secret police.

    Meanwhile, Iran’s crackdown on religious freedom continues. Saeed Abedini, an Iranian-American pastor and ex-Muslim was arrested in 2012 on a visit to Iran and sentenced last year to eight years in prison for helping to build the country’s underground Christian church network. Though President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have both called for his release, the dream of better relations with Iran has clouded over sobering realities.

    President Hassan Rouhani, often portrayed in the West as a reform-minded moderate, has urged an end to meddling in Iranians’ private lives. Last December, he sent his best wishes to those celebrating Christmas via Twitter, “especially Iranian Christians.”

    But Mr. Abedini and others languish in prison. As a signatory of international human rights declarations, Iran must be held accountable for the appalling treatment of its citizens if it wants to normalize relations with the West.
     
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    Iran's President Rouhani Is Under Fire for Cracking Down on Christian Churches

    Iran's President Rouhani Is Under Fire for Cracking Down on Christian Churches

    BY HERMOINE MACURA , CP CONTRIBUTOR
    August 11, 2015|3:46 pm

    A Sydney-based evangelist as well as the bipartisan U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), both recently condemned the crackdown on Christians under Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, who had promised better treatment of religious minorities before taking office, and called for the release of prisoners of conscience, including Iranian American pastor Saeed Abedini.

    "The Iranian government actively pursues Christian ministers and believers, placing them in prison under trumped up political charges, or simply killing them in accordance with their law," asserted Christian worker Marlene Mathew, who works with immigrants from the Middle East, to The Christian Post on Monday. "These people are innocent and need to be set free....In recent weeks the Iranian government has openly declared that 'Christians are enemies' who are a major threat to the state."

    The USCIRF also condemned the detention of prisoners of conscience, and called for their immediate release, adding that since President Rouhani assumed office, he has failed to fulfill his promise to improve the climate for religious freedom, despite sparking hopes in 2013 when he said, "All ethnicities, all religions, even religious minorities, must feel justice," as reported by The Jerusalem Post August marks the second anniversary of Rouhani's presidency.

    The situation for religious minority groups, such as Christians, Baha'is and Sufi Muslims, remains dire, notes USCIRF Chairman Robert P. George in an Aug. 3 press report. "Christian church services continue to be raided and worshippers arrested, and dissenting Muslims continue to be imprisoned and tortured."

    Iranian church leaders also confirm that Christians are always under constant surveillance by the religious police (Basji), and gatherings are often prohibited. Even secret house churches are restricted from inviting new Christians or seekers, and if they do, are punished or members are killed. "Iran has one of the highest number of spies per capita in the world, believers are often in fear of speaking openly lest they awaken the wrath of the religious police," Mathew explains.

    One of several Americans currently detained by the Iranian regime includes Pastor Saeed Abedini, who was born and raised a Muslim in Iran, but converted to Christianity in 2000. He was arrested in 2012 when he returned to Iran on a U.S. humanitarian mission trip. Despite protests and petitions for his release, he is still serving an eight year prison sentence, falsely convicted of threatening national security in Iran, and has been "viciously beaten," according to the American Center for Law and Justice, which represents his wife and children in the United States.

    "Since August 2013, an increasing number of members of religious minority communities languish in prison solely because of their beliefs. The United States and other governments must continue to speak out publicly and frequently at the highest levels about the severe religious freedom abuses in Iran and hold accountable those Iranian government agencies and officials who are culpable for severe violations of religious freedom by continuing to freeze their assets and refuse them visas," said USCIRF Chairman Robert P. George in the press statement.

    According to Christian persecution watchdog group Open Doors, Sharia-compliant Iran's official religion is Shia Islam, and only native Armenians and Assyrians in the country can be Christian. Those who convert to Christianity face persecution, torture and imprisonment. Open Doors confirmed the arrest of 75 Christians in 2014 and ranks Iran as the number seven country where Christians face the most persecution in the world.

    Christian workers in the country say that Iranians' disillusionment with their government for various issues, including its hardline religious stances on domestic and foreign policies, has caused many to search deeply beyond their valued traditions. Many Iranians share testimonies of choosing atheism but end up finding the emptiness unbearable.

    "The new tsunami of Persians entering into the freedom and love of Christ heralds a new era of hope for the Middle East and the world. The Church beyond Iran would do well to awaken and welcome these precious lost sons and daughters to the heart and home of our loving God in whom alone is Salvation," says Mathew.

    "When they see Jesus they see freedom, and though a very costly freedom, many have flocked to Jesus as their Truth and their Hope. In fact, statistics indicate that the present conversion rate of Persian Muslims to Christianity is by far the greatest harvest of Muslims ever, anywhere in world history."
     
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    Revival in Iran: 'I Want to Be a Christian'
    01-21-2016
    Chris Mitchell

    CENTRAL TURKEY -- When we think of Iran, scenes of mobs shouting "death to America," blindfolded hostages, and radical leaders demanding nuclear technology come to mind.

    But there's another side of the country: Iranians who love America, Israel, and Jesus Christ.

    CBN News Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell met and talked with some of these Iranian believers outside of their country in central Turkey.

    Infectious Faith

    When someone gets baptized in this house church, people clap and cheer like fans at a World Cup match. While they've suffered persecution and often fled for their lies, they still possess an infectious and joyous faith like Iranian believer Raizal.

    "Growing up I wanted to say I grew up [with] Jesus Christ," Raizal told CBN News. "Every time, His name was in my mind. And the next moment I started liking Christianity."

    "It was really sweet to me, the feelings, the stories, everything. So by the time I was 15, I believed in Him and I said I want to be a Christian," he said.

    Many Iranian refugees have fled Iran and come here to Turkey where they can seek refugee status with the United Nations. Some say it's just like coming out of the darkness.

    "[It's] totally different from Iran," Iranian Christian Afshin told CBN News. "I can privilege [speak about] God's Word to other guys. I can freely praise the Lord. I can easily go to church. It's completely different."

    Pastor Saeed's Church

    Afshin attended the church led by American Pastor Saeed Abedini, who is still languishing in an Iranian prison after nearly than two years.

    Following his arrest in the summer of 2012, the church disbanded. Later Afshin found himself on the run.

    "As a result, I came out of Iran because day by day it was more difficult and it was more risky for me also," he explained.

    "I had to change our home because I was sure that one day they would realize my home as an underground house church," he continued. "They would recognize it; the intelligence services would recognize it."

    Internet Church

    Others, like Raizal and Reza, her brother, fled for their lives.

    "It was really a bad situation there," Raizal recalled. "I couldn't pray [to] God with all my heart because all trouble was there. Even if I say 'Jesus Christ,' they may kill me."

    "It become [sic] [a] problem for my job and my health," Reza said. "They tried to kill me [and] then I start to run away."

    Despite the constant threat, danger, and risk, these believers keep the faith. Now they've found a church home and family. Their pastor leads house churches in Iran, as well as the United States, Canada, Germany, and Malaysia, all via Skype.

    "The main church is my house, and through the Internet I connect to everybody," Reza said. "That's why it's become like an Internet church."

    He says a great revival is underway within the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    "Right now you can see the results of the Holy Spirit," he said. "From 1994, there were about 100,000 believers. Right now, there are 3 million. You can see what the Holy Spirit is doing with the people."

    Dreams and Visions of Christ

    Many came to faith through a dream or a vision.

    "I had a dream. I had a dream long time back and every time that Jesus was with me," he continued. "And in all of my life, He was helping me and I didn't know who was this Person. Suddenly Jesus Christ was over there and He said, 'Come to Me.' And I came to that side and He accepted me."

    Despite all the hardship and being forced from their homeland, these believers exude joy. Many hope to achieve refugee status one day and immigrate to other countries.

    In the meantime, they want believers in the West to pray for the Church in Iran.

    "And I'm just begging, really, from the other believers, from other sisters and brothers from all over the world, to pray for Iran and to all the people of Iran to find new God and be familiar with God, with Jesus Christ," he said.
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    Iran: Persecution of Christians as bad as ever, despite President's promises
    Ruth Gledhill CHRISTIAN TODAY CONTRIBUTING EDITOR 11 March 2015



    Reuters
    There were hopes that life for Iran's Christians might improve under President Hassan Rouhani.
    Persecution of Christians in Iran is as bad as it was three years ago, in spite of the pre-election promises of the president, according to a new report.

    Christians continue to be arbitrarily arrested and interrogated because of their faith. Some face "severe physical and psychological torture" during detention, and simple prayer or Bible study meetings are regarded as political activities that threaten the national security of Iran, the report says.

    Churches can be closed down if they use the national language, Farsi, and Christians are regularly given long prison sentences and beatings. The worst punishments are reserved for those who convert to Christianity from Islam, when they are caught gathering in their informal house churches, and for their pastors.

    Two all-party parliamentary groups, Christians in Parliament and International Freedom of Religion or Belief, joined forces to investigate the persecution of Christians in Iran.

    The report details the case of one man sentenced to death simply for questioning some of the tenets of Islam on social media. Sadeq Saba, editor of BBC Persian, told the inquiry: "I hear from some people that the reason the regime is taking such a tough line against people like him is because a lot of people are becoming disappointed with Islam as a religion because of what the regime is doing."

    Many cases are kept secret, but more than 90 Christians were known to be behind bars in Iran at the end of 2014. Raids and arrests in Christian homes are common, and recently a 12-year-old boy was physically abused during such a raid.

    One woman told the inquiry by video link of how she asked three men who raided her house what they had done to deserve the treatment: "Are we murderers? Thieves? Criminals? The man swore at me. He said it would be better for me to be a murderer or a thief than a Christian or a Jew."

    Christians disappear for weeks at a time while they are interrogated. They are held in solitary and questioned nightly, for hours at a time, beginning just after midnight. A key goal of the security services is to find and remove any New Testaments from the homes of Christians. Detainees are sometimes told they must to convert to Islam or their families will be killed.

    Mohammed Zamir, a church leader in the UK for expat Iranians, said at the launch of the report at the House of Commons yesterday that hundreds of thousands of Iranians were converting to Christianity and it was out of control of the authorities. "They are responding to evangelism and they are responding to the message and they are converting to Christianity, literally in masses."

    He said he witnessed a recent baptism of a woman who two years ago had been a devout Muslim. She had begun to question Islam after watching an item on the news about the arrest of dozens of Christians, the confiscation of their Bibles and closure of their churches. She was intrigued to know what it was about Christianity that made the authorities "so frightened". Her search for the answer to this led to her conversion.

    The conservative MP David Burrowes and Baroness Berridge, co-chairs of the inquiry, say in a joint letter in the report that they had hoped the election of Hassan Rouhani in August 2013 would soften the regime's harsh treatment of religious and ethnic minorities. Sufis and Baha'is also suffer severe persecution.

    "Sadly, we have been disappointed that his positive promises and moderate language have not translated into any meaningful improvement. The persecution remains as severe today as it was in 2012." That was when Christians in Parliament produced their first report on the issue.

    They are calling on the Government to put pressure on the Islamic Republic to improve the plight of Christians and other minorities.
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    And Joseph wants us to bend over and lick those retards' asses.

    W Iran Kamen :)

    Where in the world is the worst place to be Christian, you may ask? :)
    Iran sitting pretty at number 7,
    Saudi at number 12...

    Read on...

    Where in the world is the worst place to be a Christian?
    Persecution of Christians has increased dramatically in parts of the world. Here we list the top 25 most anti-Christian countries
    Monday 27 July 2015 09.24 EDTLast modified on Monday 27 July 201511.09 EDT

    Where in the world is the worst place to be a Christian? | World news | The Guardian
     
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    Abou Sandal

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    Can anyone prescribe this trolling guy a good address where professional help to address his acute obsession could be given to him? It is not looking good and it is not getting any better.

    Constantly trolling this thread with Iran...bla bla bla...Iran...bla bla bla...Iran...bla bla bla...a thread about Saudi Wahhabia and its barbaric behavior towards Lebanon and the Lebanese.

    I'm worried the guy would collapse from nervous breakdown if immediate help is not given to him :p
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    Can anyone prescribe this trolling guy a good address where professional help to address his acute obsession could be given to him? It is not looking good and it is not getting any better.

    Constantly trolling this thread with Iran...bla bla bla...Iran...bla bla bla...Iran...bla bla bla...a thread about Saudi Wahhabia and its barbaric behavior towards Lebanon and the Lebanese.

    I'm worried the guy would collapse from nervous breakdown if immediate help is not given to him :p
    These policies of gulf states towards Lebanon are the direct result of Iran's interference in Lebanese sovereignty. The Lebanese government has not sanctioned HA's fighting in Syria, Yemen and Iraq and it has become incapable of taking charge of its foreign policy, and has surrendered it to HA. I do not support these policies, but it is important that people understand what caused them.
     
    Abou Sandal

    Abou Sandal

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    Lik someone saves Joseph from himself...It has become seriously critical...You need a long vacation dude :p
     
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