Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah Calls for the Boycott of American Products

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There should never be an obstacle or excuse for why you mustn't learn something (if you want or should). Glad we agree on that.

i never said something on the contrary ..

but in the conflict between Labour vs Capital , workers vs bourgeois i know on which side i stand :)

other than that there is no boundaries to learn about everything.

now .. i ask you .. have u ever read some book about communism ( other than the bs of " black book of communism " ) to understand what do communist talk about ?
 
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    i never said something on the contrary ..

    but in the conflict between Labour vs Capital , workers vs bourgeois i know on which side i stand :)

    other than that there is no boundaries to learn about everything.
    As long as the people get to decide their fate, rather than ideologues like the ones you lean to who end up as dictators, I have no problem if people vote for some socialist programs. In fact, that is necessary for a successful modern society.
     
    SAVO

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    As long as the people get to decide their fate, rather than ideologues like the ones you lean to who end up as dictators, I have no problem if people vote for some socialist programs. In fact, that is necessary for a successful modern society.
    u got it wrong ..

    but accepting socialism as a way to emancipate the workers class is a good start ;)-
     
    Muki

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    u got it wrong ..

    but accepting socialism as a way to emancipate the workers class is a good start ;)-
    I would say it's more social programs than your kind of socialism. Using national wealth to invest in future generations. That type of deal. Not the kind where you must have this haircut or you will be arrested.
     
    SAVO

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    I would say it's more social programs than your kind of socialism. Using national wealth to invest in future generations. That type of deal. Not the kind where you must have this haircut or you will be arrested.
    drop the crap ..no one will get arrested for a hair cut ..

    social democrat theory have proven its political weakness in a capitalist society in front of the real holder of wealth ( multinational , etc ) to not talk about their involvment in many imperialist war or at least they couldn't stop the imperialist war machines in many occasion..

    the future is the dictatorship of the proletariat , when the workers class get emancipated from the slavery of capitalism and build the right society which abolish all social classes .
    the communist theory pass through many stages .. the last stage is where the state become not necessary to exist anymore ,.see u miss the point again and u think that communism is all about following the tough man who got the power..instead of thinking about it as its reality : a long term process..

    ""In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and with it also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished, after labor has become not only a livelihood but life's prime want, after the productive forces have increased with the all-round development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly--only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois law be left behind in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!" (k. MARX)

    OBVIOUSLY , Mr Nasrallah have never read anything of all that ( since all those arguments are theories of kuffar ) and he is not interested .. he just want to fight the great satan to replace it with islam while waiting his mahdi to liberate the people from the forces of darkness (...... )

    "Until the “higher” phase of communism arrives, the socialists demand the strictest control by society and by the state over the measure of labor and the measure of consumption; but this control must start with the expropriation of the capitalists, with the establishment of workers' control over the capitalists, and must be exercised not by a state of bureaucrats, but by a state of armed workers. " ( Lenin - state and revolution)
     
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    drop the crap ..no one will get arrested for a hair cut ..

    social democrat theory have proven its political weakness in a capitalist society in front of the real holder of wealth ( multinational , etc ) to not talk about their involvment in many imperialist war or at least they couldn't stop the imperialist war machines in many occasion..

    the future is the dictatorship of the proletariat , when the workers class get emancipated from the slavery of capitalism and build the right society which abolish all social classes .
    the communist theory pass through many stages .. the last stage is where the state become not necessary to exist anymore ,.see u miss the point again and u think that communism is all about following the tough man who got the power..instead of thinking about it as its reality : a long term process..

    ""In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and with it also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished, after labor has become not only a livelihood but life's prime want, after the productive forces have increased with the all-round development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly--only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois law be left behind in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!" (k. MARX)

    OBVIOUSLY , Mr Nasrallah have never read anything of all that ( since all those arguments are theories of kuffar ) and he is not interested .. he just want to fight the great satan to replace it with islam while waiting his mahdi to liberate the people from the forces of darkness (...... )

    "Until the “higher” phase of communism arrives, the socialists demand the strictest control by society and by the state over the measure of labor and the measure of consumption; but this control must start with the expropriation of the capitalists, with the establishment of workers' control over the capitalists, and must be exercised not by a state of bureaucrats, but by a state of armed workers. " ( Lenin - state and revolution)
    No one wants to live in North Korea bro, you can't polish a turd. It will remain a ****ing turd.
     
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    No one wants to live in North Korea bro, you can't polish a turd. It will remain a ****ing turd.
    as a matter of fact they are not inviting no one to go and live in korea .. they are building their own home for the korean workers .. and they help others to build their own homes... instead of emigrating to became the reserve labour for capitalism .

    to be honest .. my favorite comunist model was east germany ;)
     
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    In this case they should stop all their FB, TWITTER or MSN accounts. And also trash their computers as running on Windows. Same goes with Android

    Imagine the US imposing sanction on whomever provides US equipment to Lebanon... We would shut down in the next hour

    Btw same goes for Israelis products. We use hundreds of Israeli products everyday starting with medecines, Internet, AI, Google Alexa, Cisco Ice, etc
     
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    The thieves since the 90's pushed Lebanese to become completely backwards... We produce nothing, discover nothing and keep using American and Israeli products every minute while we insult everyone everyday

    I am ashamed and it is a hard wake-up.
    Emiraties are working on Space programs, Nuclear programs, Ivory Coast and Morocco have discovered medecines and treatments, the whole world is working on AI, SPACE PROGRAMS AND RESEARCH while we were busy fighting each other and putting our cash in these fake banks. Hard wake-up but I am glad the truth is out now. We have a civilization to rebuild
     
    Rafidi

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    Who is gifting these Hizbullah terrorists all these American products? GMCs, Timberland... Zionist conspiracy I tell ya.
    Who knows? Maybe Trump? Just like the US is gifting billions of free dollars to the Zionist terrorists. Trump always boasts of being a good deal maker. Maybe he's playing a double one on the Zionist terrorists.
     
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    In this case they should stop all their FB, TWITTER or MSN accounts. And also trash their computers as running on Windows. Same goes with Android

    Imagine the US imposing sanction on whomever provides US equipment to Lebanon... We would shut down in the next hour

    Btw same goes for Israelis products. We use hundreds of Israeli products everyday starting with medecines, Internet, AI, Google Alexa, Cisco Ice, etc
    Why must it always be a case of choosing between two extremes? We do not have to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

    The point you are making is the fact that the US has a lot of economic leverage and many products essential to life like medicines. That is granted. But still, there are nonessential products that can be boycotted if the will is there. And that starts by Hezballah asking its comrades to stop using GMC vehicles. I find those vehicles ugly. And they occupy more space on the road.

    You can't be asking me to boycott US products with my little money while you use some of your billions to buy American luxury products. It makes no sense. So yes, there are essential products and nonessential products. And I believe the nonessential products are the bulk of Lebanese imports from the US. As Lebanese (or maybe as an Arabic people), we have a taste for luxury and squander. We are impulsive buyers. Once we have enough money, we must spend and show the world we are from a certain class. Mark Zuckerberg doesn't wear Gucci neither does Bill Gates. They many at times dress in a poor way. And God knows if they don't eat falafel thrice a day. If they were Arab, they'd likely order their clothes from paradise and import bottles of zamzam water instead of Rim or Nestle water.
     
    Rafidi

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    i never said something on the contrary ..

    but in the conflict between Labour vs Capital , workers vs bourgeois i know on which side i stand :)

    other than that there is no boundaries to learn about everything.

    now .. i ask you .. have u ever read some book about communism ( other than the bs of " black book of communism " ) to understand what do communist talk about ?
    So your choice is based on choosing between labor and their "oppressors" or "slave masters". Yet, those struggling to survive imperialism and its tentacles and domination are the bad guys?
     
    Rafidi

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    The thieves since the 90's pushed Lebanese to become completely backwards... We produce nothing, discover nothing and keep using American and Israeli products every minute while we insult everyone everyday

    I am ashamed and it is a hard wake-up.
    Emiraties are working on Space programs, Nuclear programs, Ivory Coast and Morocco have discovered medecines and treatments, the whole world is working on AI, SPACE PROGRAMS AND RESEARCH while we were busy fighting each other and putting our cash in these fake banks. Hard wake-up but I am glad the truth is out now. We have a civilization to rebuild
    Politics in Lebanon is family business. Each person who starts a political party (with the exception of few parties), behaves like he has opened a dikkeneh. The son or one family member must inherit the dikkeneh. The people are the servants and customers to the dikkeneh. So whatever money people entrust in banks and the banks are under the grip of government would likely be taking advantage of. The politicians are masters and the people are good for nothing laborers, taxpayers and toiling slaves. That is the sick mentality of the Lebanese ruling class. There is no accountability. And the root cause of that is you and me. We are a sectarian people. We prefer our own sectarian leaders to steal instead of the sectarian leaders from another sect. And neither stealing benefits us or the country at large. We focus on empty sectarian rhetoric and allow the thieves to use that to divide us instead of focusing on something concrete and tangible on the ground for our benefit as a people.
     
    Rafidi

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    Look at the people with whom some are calling for peace with:

     
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    SHN's just out here trying to get Lebanon into the EU by following their ban on garbage American exports that no one should eat.
     
    Rafidi

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    Dont forget that the population of only Tehran is thrice the population of all of Lebanon. So yes, a broke Iran can help baby Lebanon.

    What is really the problem of you hypocrites? When we are in crisis, you always ask why doesn't Iran help. When Iran offers to help, you then get worked up that Iran is broke.

    If the state doesn't want to accept Iranian help, especially the electricity offer, then I would suggest certain areas within Lebanon that would accept Iran's assistance get the electricity offer. Let America, the rich and mighty country, fix the electricity in other areas.

    Iran won't give you cash to make the thieves in Lebanon happy. But Iran can offer tangible assistance to make life easier for the people. In other words, Iran can help in sealing the leakages used to siphon money from the state. E.g. renting electricity ships etc.
     
    Muki

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    Dont forget that the population of only Tehran is thrice the population of all of Lebanon. So yes, a broke Iran can help baby Lebanon.

    What is really the problem of you hypocrites? When we are in crisis, you always ask why doesn't Iran help. When Iran offers to help, you then get worked up that Iran is broke.

    If the state doesn't want to accept Iranian help, especially the electricity offer, then I would suggest certain areas within Lebanon that would accept Iran's assistance get the electricity offer. Let America, the rich and mighty country, fix the electricity in other areas.

    Iran won't give you cash to make the thieves in Lebanon happy. But Iran can offer tangible assistance to make life easier for the people. In other words, Iran can help in sealing the leakages used to siphon money from the state. E.g. renting electricity ships etc.
    No one wants to end up like Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.
    So, please, keep Iran's "help" to herself.
     
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    Why are we that dependent on the US? Not only they are not our friends, but they are further away from us than many countries we should get closer to. Lebanon is near Cyprus and we can strengthen our ties with the EU by exporting stuff. Don't tell me we can't produce anything valuable to export to Europe. Morocco exports cars to the EU.
    We should also get closer to Syria, Iraq, and Russia.
     
    SAVO

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    i wonder about the amount of PIL x person in dahieh .
    sillicon valley of arguile' technology.
     
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