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Should the WESTERN countries fear the spread of Islam ?

Xynus87

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Well, the root of the problem is not Islam. It's the European right-wing conservatives who want to "preserve" their European culture. And that's their own will, we should have no issue with that, just like we like to preserve our own Middle Easterner cultu.. - Right, as if we are preserving our diversity anyway.
 

Iron Maiden

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Libnene Qu7

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Go look for liberal ideals in the torched fields of northern Vietnam and the millions of graves in Algeria. Nothing more hilarious than a liberal so entranced by his/her own delusions as to not see the world for what it actually is.

There are horrible, rotten apples on both sides of the liberal-conservative divide. To call someone either is almost an offense these days.
 

Nonan

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. Get your children educated in the best western schools. Whatever makes then superior you will get hold of it through education.
Candidly, the rest of your post is garbage. Continuous rant against some western conspiracy as if Muslim leaders (and population) were innocent victims of conniving western civilization.
These two sentences however are golden (I would just strike out “western”, any school is good).
Focus on learning, developing and advancing. Stop blaming others and more importantly, stop making life a zero sum game, an “us vs them” a “we will wipe you off the map”...
Get living conditions of people in lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran better. No one is preventing you from doing that
 

Iron Maiden

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Candidly, the rest of your post is garbage. Continuous rant against some western conspiracy as if Muslim leaders (and population) were innocent victims of conniving western civilization.
These two sentences however are golden (I would just strike out “western”, any school is good).
Focus on learning, developing and advancing. Stop blaming others and more importantly, stop making life a zero sum game, an “us vs them” a “we will wipe you off the map”...
Get living conditions of people in lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran better. No one is preventing you from doing that
Anything else than a zero sum game spells the death of ideologies, indoctrinated folks cant accept that
 

Frisbeetarian

Legendary Member
There are horrible, rotten apples on both sides of the liberal-conservative divide. To call someone either is almost an offense these days.

You get your ideologies wrong. There is no divide to be had vis a vis liberalism and conservatism in a postmodern context.
In any case, does the protection of their liberal and democratic ideals hinge on the colonization of the rest of the world?
 

Libnene Qu7

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You get your ideologies wrong. There is no divide to be had vis a vis liberalism and conservatism in a postmodern context.
In any case, does the protection of their liberal and democratic ideals hinge on the colonization of the rest of the world?

Who's colonizing what? What century are you stuck in? If the GCC countries like to slave themselves to the American military, you can't blame the Americans. If the Cosovo population still regards Bill Clinton as a savior because he actually did save them, you can't call that colonialism. Look at Hong Kong now, the people desperately want the British back.
 

Frisbeetarian

Legendary Member
Who's colonizing what? What century are you stuck in? If the GCC countries like to slave themselves to the American military, you can't blame the Americans. If the Cosovo population still regards Bill Clinton as a savior because he actually did save them, you can't call that colonialism. Look at Hong Kong now, the people desperately want the British back.

Your own country is a post colonial entity that still relies on the same power dynamic and ideological pretenses for its existence. To be so unaware and deluded borders on the criminal yet you veer heavily towards imbecility. Keep believing in your neoliberal fantasies and made up realities, we'll see how long that'll last.
 

Libnene Qu7

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Your own country is a post colonial entity that still relies on the same power dynamic and ideological pretenses for its existence. To be so unaware and deluded borders on the criminal yet you veer heavily towards imbecility. Keep believing in your neoliberal fantasies and made up realities, we'll see how long that'll last.

Oh dear lord, after all this time you turned out to be an Antoun Saadist?!
OK, enjoy dreaming about colonizing Cyprus.
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
Candidly, the rest of your post is garbage. Continuous rant against some western conspiracy as if Muslim leaders (and population) were innocent victims of conniving western civilization.
These two sentences however are golden (I would just strike out “western”, any school is good).
Focus on learning, developing and advancing. Stop blaming others and more importantly, stop making life a zero sum game, an “us vs them” a “we will wipe you off the map”...
Get living conditions of people in lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran better. No one is preventing you from doing that

With sanctions, threats of sanctions, interference in your banking system, interference in what and how you arm your military forces, dictating what technological knowhow you acquire and what you cannot etc...how can you say no one is preventing us from improving our lives?
 

Iron Maiden

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Europeaans will never cease to surprise me when it comes to dealing with islamism and how rooted it is in their countries.
They’re like an old man with alzeihmers ?

 

Dark Angel

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Europeaans will never cease to surprise me when it comes to dealing with islamism and how rooted it is in their countries.
They’re like an old man with alzeihmers ?

no they are not like an old man with alzheimer, this the work of the left, this is quite a bitter group which harbors a deep grudge against its own culture and they actively seek to destroy it. they are using islamists to that purpose, they do not care about the outcome, as long as they destroy the structure of the society and the race they grew up to hate.
most of the activists on the ground are clueless though. they cannot think two seconds ahead into the future.. those who call the shots however are a different story.
 

My Moria Moon

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most of the activists on the ground are clueless though. they cannot think two seconds ahead into the future.. those who call the shots however are a different story.

Most of the idiots of the world are self screwers, from the simplest cheaters in exams to voters to political activists and the rest of the spectra.
 

Iron Maiden

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Two french teachers write to warn the government from participating and thus legitimizing an islamic centered, indigenous oriented colloquium near paris

 

!Aoune32

Well-Known Member
It is the Western world fault they brought these pricks here. They took them in, gave them a home, gave them welfare, gave them a job and money a good life with health care but still they hate kel chi western. They rather live in KSA or Iran. About time they leave . Ma7ada bado yehon houne aslan.
 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

Legendary Member
muslims will be uprooted from europe .. payback time is coming

Years ago I warned that Europe is not afraid of Islam, Europe is afraid of itself.

PS. I am glad that European anti-semitism has pushed Jews out of Europe before crazy time begins and I am glad that today Jews have a place to go to - Israel, thanks you for having the light on.
 

Iron Maiden

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a great efitorial by france’s le figaro’s editor in chief

sorry for non french speakers :p

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