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Shutdown over a Wall

  • Thread starter Thawra # Furoshima
  • Start date

The Shutdown will lead to

  • A compromise

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Building the wall

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Not Building the wall

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • A trump victory

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Democrats Victory

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • Nobody win

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • An economic slowdown

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Society suffering

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Total voters
    13
Thawra # Furoshima

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
Desire to negotiate is great and I would've postponed the tariffs for that purpose.
However, if there is no tangible result in negotiations and soon tariffs should come into effect expeditiously.
I suspect Trump will do the same.
You were right
 
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  • proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    Legendary Member
    You were right
    It's Trump's standard way to operate - to bump up the price to ridiculous levels and then have opponent desperately trying to bring it down.
    In situation like stat opponent is guarantied to leave a lot of money on the table for Trump to pick up.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    Trump says there's 'good chance' of deal with Mexico
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    President Trump said Friday there is a “good chance” the U.S. and Mexico can reach an agreement to avert tariffs over a surge in illegal migration, but said they would go into place Monday as scheduled if the two sides cannot make a deal.
    The president said that increased purchases of U.S. agricultural products would be a part of a possible agreement.

    “If we are able to make the deal with Mexico, & there is a good chance that we will, they will begin purchasing Farm & Agricultural products at very high levels, starting immediately. If we are unable to make the deal, Mexico will begin paying Tariffs at the 5% level on Monday!” he tweeted.
    Mexican officials have been in Washington all week trying to persuade the Trump administration to hold off on the tariffs, which would have wide-ranging effects on the economies of the U.S. and Mexico. Mexican Foreign Secretary Marcelo Ebrard spent much of Friday in meetings at the State Department.
    White House officials have said the talks have yielded progress, but that Mexico needed to do more to satisfy Trump’s demands. The White House was planning to post a legal notification of the tariffs on Friday, but one top aide said the notice could be withdrawn or tabled if a deal is reached before Monday.
    “I think there is the ability — if negotiations continue to go well — that the president can turn that off at some point over the weekend,” Marc Short, chief of staff to Vice President Pence, told reporters at the White House.
    Trump has received updates on the negotiations but has not taken part in them himself, as he has been on a weeklong trip to the United Kingdom, France and Ireland.
    “Our position hasn’t changed. Tariffs are going to take effect on Monday,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters traveling with the president in Ireland, while noting the talks have been positive.
    “They’ve made a lot of progress,” she added. “The meetings have gone well, but as of now we’re still on track for tariffs on Monday.”
    Trump intends to declare a new national emergency to impose the tariffs under the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, according to a draft document obtained by The Hill.
    The president announced suddenly last week that he wanted to impose tariffs on Mexico amid mounting frustration over the administration’s inability to curb illegal immigration, one of Trump’s core promises during the 2016 campaign.
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    The tariffs would begin at 5 percent and increase to 25 percent by October if the Trump administration deems Mexico is not doing enough to crack down on illegal migration.
    U.S. and Mexican officials over the past few days have discussed an emerging agreement in which Mexico would send 6,000 national guardsmen to its border with Guatemala to stop migrants from crossing and agree to house migrants seeking asylum in the U.S.
    Agricultural purchases were not known to be part of the talks. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

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    YES!!!! He is going to make them pay for the wall. LOL...... The invisible Wall :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Sure ? Crusader wall is a reality
    Trump's wall is growing: Border Agency releases drone footage of 1.1miles of 30ft steel barriers separating Arizona and Mexico that have replaced rusty fences
    By Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com and Reuters06:54 BST 05 Jun 2019, updated 07:32 BST 05 Jun 2019


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    • 1.9kshares
    13 comments
    They will pay
    Higher tariffs or border measures
    ????
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    Legendary Member
    YES!!!! He is going to make them pay for the wall. LOL...... The invisible Wall :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Payments can have different forms - for example a form of a tariff or a form of Mexico dealing with illegals on their side instead of us spending money on ours, etc ...
     
    mikeys71

    mikeys71

    Well-Known Member
    You were saying
    The Crusader in Chief
    Where is the wall? When is he going to get rid of Obama care? When will he start rebuilding the infrastructure? The only thing he can do is lie and lie and lie. Taking America to the gutter that’s what he has done so far.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    Where is the wall? When is he going to get rid of Obama care? When will he start rebuilding the infrastructure? The only thing he can do is lie and lie and lie. Taking America to the gutter that’s what he has done so far.
    Sure ? Crusader wall is a reality
    Trump's wall is growing: Border Agency releases drone footage of 1.1miles of 30ft steel barriers separating Arizona and Mexico that have replaced rusty fences
    By Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com and Reuters06:54 BST 05 Jun 2019, updated 07:32 BST 05 Jun 2019


    +14
    • 1.9kshares
    13 comments
    They will pay
    Higher tariffs or border measures
    ????
    There the wall it is being built slowly but surely
    Unless you don’t see and you don’t want to hear
    Economy is great
    Wages are increasing
    Trade barriers are protecting America workers
    Crusader judges are appointed
    ??????
     
    mikeys71

    mikeys71

    Well-Known Member
    There the wall it is being built slowly but surely
    Unless you don’t see and you don’t want to hear
    Economy is great
    Wages are increasing
    Trade barriers are protecting America workers
    Crusader judges are appointed
    ??????
    January 2018 Dow Jones was 26700 18 month later June 2019 the Dow is at 25000. Check your 401K and come tell me how great the economy is.
    The minimum wage has increased to 15 in mostly democratic states, republican state are still between 7.5 and 9 dollars an hour.
    As for the wall building 3 miles out of 3500 miles in 3 years is not an achievement.
    The man is an idiot he is ruining America.
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    January 2018 Dow Jones was 26700 18 month later June 2019 the Dow is at 25000. Check your 401K and come tell me how great the economy is.
    The minimum wage has increased to 15 in mostly democratic states, republican state are still between 7.5 and 9 dollars an hour.
    As for the wall building 3 miles out of 3500 miles in 3 years is not an achievement.
    The man is an idiot he is ruining America.
    The wall is being built
    Hundreds of miles before 2020
    Money was allocated 2 months ago by the Crusader in Chief
    About economy
    The economy growth is 3 percent under Obama less than 2 percent
    More important workers wages are rising
    For the first time in 40 years
     
    mikeys71

    mikeys71

    Well-Known Member
    The wall is being built
    Hundreds of miles before 2020
    Money was allocated 2 months ago by the Crusader in Chief
    About economy
    The economy growth is 3 percent under Obama less than 2 percent
    More important workers wages are rising
    For the first time in 40 years
    Did you read my post??
     
    Thawra # Furoshima

    Thawra # Furoshima

    Well-Known Member
    Did you read my post??
    Did you read the article I showed you
    10 Billions of dollars are available to the wall building
    As for minimum wages that not the best way to increase wages, the best way is protecting the workers betrayed by Hussein by establishing barriers trade and opening factories and the creation of highly paid industrial jobs inside Crusader ??
    It is by not letting false theories about global warming stop energy production in America who is today energy producers number 1 in the world
    Under Trump the Crusader in Chief Growth in GDP is higher than Obama
    More important worker salaries are increasing for the first time in 40 years
    Manufacturers Added 6 Times More Jobs Under Trump Than Under Obama's Last 2 Years
    Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26
    Chuck DeVoreContributor
     
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