News South Africa votes to seize land from white farmers

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  • Indie

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    #82
    I don't know much about the history of the Boers and the Zulus, but if the information in this video is accurate, I would have to take back what I said about Black South Africans having the right to do whatever they want with "their" land.

    Either way, it seems I was right to be skeptical of the governments' intentions and competence.

     

    The Jade

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    #83
    westerners can do better offers than chinese so they can go ahead .. the market is open for all :)

    You're looking at this in a very myopic way.
    Apart from the fact that most of the money goes back to China, you shouldn't forget that Chinese construction, at least, in Africa is below par when it comes to quality or safety standards.
    What good does it make if you build a house that will fall apart a couple of years later?
    What good does it make if you build a road that will have potholes the following months?
    What advantage does Africa gain if their communities are not even getting jobs? They're not getting trained? They're not getting income?

    So they'll have to rely on the chinese for the rest of their lives?
     

    gramsci

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    #86
    You're looking at this in a very myopic way.
    Apart from the fact that most of the money goes back to China, you shouldn't forget that Chinese construction, at least, in Africa is below par when it comes to quality or safety standards.
    What good does it make if you build a house that will fall apart a couple of years later?
    What good does it make if you build a road that will have potholes the following months?
    What advantage does Africa gain if their communities are not even getting jobs? They're not getting trained? They're not getting income?

    So they'll have to rely on the chinese for the rest of their lives?
    the rules of the markets , quality/price .. the africans are not stupid as u assume .. those infrastructure will boost the economy in africa and will construct the economic systems for africans and put them on the right track of developpment ..
    dont play the 5th column of westerners.. who sucked the bloods of africans for years and sent them armies to kill eachothers ..while stealing their natural resources..
    africa finally is put on the right track..hoping that in future they will be able to build their own infrastructures by themselve and without any external need .. and on their free will and with the quality that suite them..
     

    Iron Maiden

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    #87
    the rules of the markets , quality/price .. the africans are not stupid as u assume .. those infrastructure will boost the economy in africa and will construct for african and put them on the right track of developpment ..
    dont play the 5th column of westerners.. who sucked the bloods of africans for years and sent them armies to kill eachothers ..
    Ahahaha yea bcause cuba and the siviets didnt send them arms to kill each other.. completly delusional bruh
     

    The Jade

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    #89
    the rules of the markets , quality/price .. the africans are not stupid as u assume .. those infrastructure will boost the economy in africa and will construct for african and put them on the right track of developpment ..
    dont play the 5th column of westerners.. who sucked the bloods of africans for years and sent them armies to kill eachothers ..while stealing their natural resources..
    africa finally is put on the right track..hoping that in future they will be able to build their own infrastructures by themselve and without any external need .. and on their free will and with the quality that suite them..
    The africans are not stupid, but they are easily attracted by shiny things.
    They use these projects to show their people that they're doing something during their mandates, knowing full well that politicians always get the biggest slice of the cake.
    They forget to mention that they are becoming more and more dependent on the chinese.

    Have you been to Africa before?
    Have you seen the projects first hand?
    Have you seen the state of their projects?
    Have you seen the scores of convicts they bring in from China in order not to pay for local labour?

    How will africans build their own infrastructure if they're not learning from these projects?
    Barely any mid to high level staffers are employed.
    Barely any taxes are paid to help train africans.
    Barely any are trained during these projects?
    You think that if they drive in a road they'll know how to build one?

    Answer the above questions, then we can talk.
     

    gramsci

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    #90
    Ahahaha yea bcause cuba and the siviets didnt send them arms to kill each other.. completly delusional bruh
    the cuban helped in angola and mozambique in the liberation wars ... go ask any resident of those countries about portuguese colonialism and then ull be the first to thank cuban revolution .
    a liberation force and not a colonisation one +
     

    gramsci

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    #91
    The communist Malema sounds a lot like Hitler talking about the Jews.

    communist are doing it seriously this time .all over the world . mark my words .
    the lands needed to be cultivated and give food to the people , an not for few white colonisers who took them by colonialist violence ..
    nothing wrong about this speech , it state facts about south african reality.. as he said in this speech . DEFEAT THE WHITE MONOPOLY CAPITAL
     

    Indie

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    #92
    communist are doing it seriously this time .all over the world . mark my words .
    the lands needed to be cultivated and give food to the people , an not for few white colonisers who took them by colonialist violence ..
    nothing wrong about this speech , it state facts about south african reality.. as he said in this speech . DEFEAT THE WHITE MONOPOLY CAPITAL
    Did you watch the first video I posted? If the information in it is accurate, this land is no more Black than it is White.

    Either way, it is appalling that you would support killing and genocide, no matter what your end goal is.

    But then again, hundreds of millions of deaths are a communist legacy, and you support communism...
     

    gramsci

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    #95
    Did you watch the first video I posted? If the information in it is accurate, this land is no more Black than it is White.

    Either way, it is appalling that you would support killing and genocide, no matter what your end goal is.

    But then again, hundreds of millions of deaths are a communist legacy, and you support communism...
    i come to ur house .. i take over ur house and ur assets . i employ you , i speculate on profile while u work for me ..

    after a whle if u come and say , hey , this house is mine , this land is mine, and u came here abosively and occupy it , now give it back .

    thats a semplified story for u ..))
     

    gramsci

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    #96
    But then again, hundreds of millions of deaths are a communist legacy, and you support communism...
    those millions died defending the socialism against nazi barbarity .. and many armenians were fighting this war too to ur information .. and stalingrad is always there

     

    Indie

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    #98
    i come to ur house .. i take over ur house and ur assets . i employ you , i speculate on profile while u work for me ..

    after a whle if u come and say , hey , this house is mine , this land is mine, and u came here abosively and occupy it , now give it back .

    thats a semplified story for u ..))
    Ok so you didn't watch the video...

    Please stop arguing until you do.
     

    Indie

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    #99
    those millions died defending the socialism against nazi barbarity .. and many armenians were fighting this war too to ur information .. and stalingrad is always there

    I'm talking about the millions who died executed, or in gulags, or through starvation...by the hands of their communist "brothers."
     

    Dark Angel

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    those millions died defending the socialism against nazi barbarity .. and many armenians were fighting this war too to ur information .. and stalingrad is always there

    they died defending their country, not "socialism", what is that by the way? a diluted "communism" reality soup with a more appealing modern packaging?