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Spanish left wants to remove ex-dictator Franco Body from his Mausoleum

Should the Socialists remove Crusader Franco Body from his mausoleum

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • It showed the left support for Communist Crimex

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • It showed the left disdain for Christianity

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • It should be peacefully resisted

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • It is scandal the Socialists are refusing the body transfer to Madrid Cathedral

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • The left and extreme left are anti Christians

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • It is a scandal a fascist dictator has a mausoleum

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Franco help against Communist and Spain Prosperity under him is forgotten

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • Total voters
    3

GrumpForTrump

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Of course his statue should be removed. Franco represents a very dark era in Spanish history.
Just because he's Christian doesn't mean he was good a person.

Likewise, I think we should remove Bachir's statue from Sassine. When did we become a nation that glorifies war criminals?
 

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
Of course his statue should be removed. Franco represents a very dark era in Spanish history.
Just because he's Christian doesn't mean he was good a person.

Likewise, I think we should remove Bachir's statue from Sassine. When did we become a nation that glorifies war criminals?
It is not his statue
His body from his grave
 

cedarheart

Legendary Member
This is a pure Spanish matter and up to the Spaniards to decide how to deal with it... none of our business

an interesting fact: Franco himself didn't want to be buried in the Valle de los Caidos , after his death the interim government and king decided so and since no tomb was pre-designed for Franco a new one had to be rushed in 2 days forcing infrastructure changes in the basilica
 

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
This is a pure Spanish matter and up to the Spaniards to decide how to deal with it... none of our business

an interesting fact: Franco himself didn't want to be buried in the Valle de los Caidos , after his death the interim government and king decided so and since no tomb was pre-designed for Franco a new one had to be rushed in 2 days forcing infrastructure changes in the basilica
Who our business
We are talking about all World matters
 

The Bidenator

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Orange Room Supporter
Good job displaying your Christian morals by praising one of history's bloodiest dictators.

Must have learned that one straight from the bloodthirsty god you worship.
 

cedarheart

Legendary Member
I am against it, man deserves my praise - Franco did not let Hitler touch Spanish Jews.
Franco ordered his officials to draw up a list of some 6,000 Jews living in Spain and include them in a secret Jewish archive. That list was handed over to Himmler. The original order instructed all governors to elaborate lists of "all the national and foreign Jews living in the province ... showing their personal and political leanings, means of living, commercial activities, degree of danger and security category [...] Their adaptation to our environment and their similar temperament allow them to hide their origins more easily"

In his victory speech in 1939 Franco denounced "the Jewish spirit which permitted the alliance of big capital with Marxists"

Franco didn't rush into WW2, instead, he chose to wait and see (and cashed a huge bribe (200 millions) from england to stay out at the start) like did Salazar in Portugal. When he felt that the Axis won't be able to win he ordered the destruction of the Jewish archives and started cleaning up his reputation with the US media by spreading stories of how Spain helped and sheltered some Jews (and hiding stories of how spain helped war criminals escape Europe to latin america)

So yes, he didn't kill Jews in Spain, but was prepared to do so had the Axis power lasted few years longer.
 

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
Good job displaying your Christian morals by praising one of history's bloodiest dictators.

Must have learned that one straight from the bloodthirsty god you worship.
One of history’s bloodiest dictators
How when
A civil war
Victims were on both side
Communists were killing people and priests simply because of their religion
So yes Franco saved them
He did Criminal acts but it was killed or be killed
 

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
Franco ordered his officials to draw up a list of some 6,000 Jews living in Spain and include them in a secret Jewish archive. That list was handed over to Himmler. The original order instructed all governors to elaborate lists of "all the national and foreign Jews living in the province ... showing their personal and political leanings, means of living, commercial activities, degree of danger and security category [...] Their adaptation to our environment and their similar temperament allow them to hide their origins more easily"

In his victory speech in 1939 Franco denounced "the Jewish spirit which permitted the alliance of big capital with Marxists"

Franco didn't rush into WW2, instead, he chose to wait and see (and cashed a huge bribe (200 millions) from england to stay out at the start) like did Salazar in Portugal. When he felt that the Axis won't be able to win he ordered the destruction of the Jewish archives and started cleaning up his reputation with the US media by spreading stories of how Spain helped and sheltered some Jews (and hiding stories of how spain helped war criminals escape Europe to latin america)

So yes, he didn't kill Jews in Spain, but was prepared to do so had the Axis power lasted few years longer.

So he collaborated with Churchill against Hitler
The man is a hero at least in this perspective
When so many people did nothing to save the Jews the man protected them
 
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The Bidenator

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Orange Room Supporter
One of history’s bloodiest dictators
How when
A civil war
Victims were on both side
Communists were killing people and priests simply because of their religion
So yes Franco saved them
He did Criminal acts but it was killed or be killed

Stop trying to polish shit.
It's still shit.
 

Thawra # Furoshima

Well-Known Member
Stop trying to polish shit.
It's still shit.
Shit situation was a civil war
Hundreds of thousands of Christians killed
Do you want me to be sad they won against Communist in a bloody war and they survived
Hell no
Saying this I wish nobody was hurted on both sides
But it was kill or be killed
If you are a liberal, do you feel sorry for the victims in the Middle East
Plus that’s not the matter
Nobody protested taking his statues Franco Statues
But leave his body in peace
 

GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Shit situation was a civil war
Hundreds of thousands of Christians killed
Do you want me to be sad they won against Communist in a bloody war and they survived
Hell no
Saying this I wish nobody was hurted on both sides
But it was kill or be killed
If you are a liberal, do you feel sorry for the victims in the Middle East
Plus that’s not the matter
Nobody protested taking his statues Franco Statues
But leave his body in peace

His body deserves the same respect as that of Bin Laden.
You could bury it under a toilet and I wouldn't care. (I would just make sure his mouth is positioned in a way to swallow the poop after it's flushed down the toilet. This is where good plumbing skills come in handy)
 
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