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split in the montenegro Orthodox church from serbian church .

SAVO

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i am not against you stating your opinion. I want to know your interest in the issue.
Second, I stand with the serbs also.

u stand with the serb and in other thread u defend american and nato positions ?
beside . since u stand with the serbs , what is your stand fromt he vatican regarding the genocide during WWII against orthodox serbs by fascist croats ( supported by vatican ) ?
 

!Aoune32

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NATO did the same operation in ukraine , by splitting the ukraine orthodox church from russian one , with the approval of constantinople ..

Nato can go suck some balls. This alliance is all for breaking Orthodox majority states into pieces and making them fight with one another. They did the same with Ukraine. They split the whole Yugoslavia up to like 5 pieces. In Bosnia, Croatia and the other states doing better now ya3ne than before? I urge the serbs to go on strike, protests this decision and get backing from all orthodox including Russia in the area.
 

SAVO

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to your personal info .. im into the serbian orthodox church more than u can immagine .. but thats a personal matter and i dont think u have any business to do with it ;)
 

SAVO

Active Member
Nato can go suck some balls. This alliance is all for breaking Orthodox majority states into pieces and making them fight with one another. They did the same with Ukraine. They split the whole Yugoslavia up to like 5 pieces. In Bosnia, Croatia and the other states doing better now ya3ne than before? I urge the serbs to go on strike, protests this decision and get backing from all orthodox including Russia in the area.

yes serbs and russia will strike back ,,. and the traitors in montenegro will regret .. but now its not the moment .. there is harsh equilibrum in the balkan ..
NATO installed a huge base in Kosovo , the homeland of serbian orthodoxy, and they are isolating serbia from montenegro , beside the NATO -US alliance with albania is also for mutual interest since the biggest iranian opposition group have its base in Albania now while albania have the american support against serbia ..
the russian , greek and serbian church are on the same line .. while americans are trying to create a split .
 

!Aoune32

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u stand with the serb and in other thread u defend american and nato positions ?
beside . since u stand with the serbs , what is your stand fromt he vatican regarding the genocide during WWII against orthodox serbs by fascist croats ( supported by vatican ) ?

I never support US action and nato positions. I state the news. I am also against the reds allying with the islamists and this is what has been happening for over 20 years. There is no good coming from it.

I support the serbs 120%. They are a large minority in Montenegro, large minority in Bosnia, large minority in Kosovo numbering 150K and other areas. All these areas should rise up with the help of Russia against what the US and Europe are trying to do and in some states successfully.
 

!Aoune32

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yes serbs and russia will strike back ,,. and the traitors in montenegro will regret .. but now its not the moment .. there is harsh equilibrum in the balkan ..
NATO installed a huge base in Kosovo , the homeland of serbian orthodoxy, and they are isolating serbia from montenegro , beside the NATO -US alliance with albania is also for mutual interest since the biggest iranian opposition group have its base in Albania now while albania have the american support against serbia ..
the russian , greek and serbian church are on the same line .. while americans are trying to create a split .

the montenegro church is not recognised canonically by the other eastern orthodox church. these days every tom **** and harry makes a church and calls it something. the split should not happen and the Russian, Greek and Serbian churches should put a stop to it.
 

SAVO

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I never support US action and nato positions. I state the news. I am also against the reds allying with the islamists and this is what has been happening for over 20 years. There is no good coming from it.

I support the serbs 120%. They are a large minority in Montenegro, large minority in Bosnia, large minority in Kosovo numbering 150K and other areas. All these areas should rise up with the help of Russia against what the US and Europe are trying to do and in some states successfully.

comunist is an atheist ideology and its not christian or jewish or muslim ideology ,. the alliances are made on idelogical and tactical purpose , where they islamists , christians or jews ...the matter is in the war against the imperialism we support all anti imperialist forces...wether its Iran (muslim shia ), or Serbia (orthodox) or Northern Ireland (catholic)...
 

!Aoune32

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comunist is an atheist ideology and its not christian or jewish or muslim ideology ,. the alliances are made on idelogical and tactical purpose , where they islamists , christians or jews ...the matter is in the war against the imperialism we support all anti imperialist forces...wether its Iran (muslim shia ), or Serbia (orthodox) or Northern Ireland (catholic)...

The thread is about the split between the serbs and the montenegro church. not everything is about imperialism. You are still living in the 50s man. we are in 2020. People have a role in determining their future. You are saying that they play no role and everything is the fault of the US and nato forces.
 

SAVO

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By the way this is Ostrog manastir , the holliest Orthodox site in Montenegro . which with the new controversial law will pass its propriety to montenegro church ..

i took those pictures myself last august

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!Aoune32

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Serbian President Cancels Visit To Montenegro Amid Religious Dispute
January 04, 2020 18:43 GMT
Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has canceled an upcoming visit to Montenegro amid a dispute over a new Montenegrin religious rights law.
“I decided not to go, and that was agreed with [Serbian Patriarch] Irinej,'' Vucic said at a news conference in Belgrade on January 4. “We respect their independence."
Vucic had been planning to visit Serbian churches in Montenegro on Orthodox Christmas, which is celebrated on January 7. Montenegrin officials had said the visit would add fuel to the existing tensions in the small Balkan state.
Last month, Montenegro’s parliament passed a law under which religious communities must prove property ownership from before 1918, the year when predominantly Orthodox Christian Montenegro joined the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes.
Serbs say the new law will lead to the impounding of Serbian Orthodox Church property in Montenegro. Montenegrin officials have repeatedly denied the claim.
In 2006, Montenegro split from much larger Serbia following a referendum. About one-third of the small Balkan country’s 620,000 citizens declared themselves as Serbs and want close ties with Belgrade.
Vucic on January 4 also accused Montenegrin and unspecified Western officials of launching “a hysteric campaign of lies" when he first announced the visit.
He said he canceled it because of possible “clashes" that would “hurt the Serbian people in Montenegro."
Led by Orthodox priests and fueled by Serbian state media, thousands of Serbs in Montenegro have been staging daily protests in the small Balkan state, demanding that the law be annulled.
Serbian ultra-nationalists have also held protests against Montenegro's pro-Western government in the Serbian capital, Belgrade.
Thousands of soccer hooligans tried to burn the Montenegrin flag, threw flares and chanted “set it on fire” during a protest in front of the Montenegrin Embassy in Belgrade on January 2.
Montenegrin Prime Minister Dusko Markovic called the embassy attack an “uncivilized” act and that it was “stunning” Serbian police did not protect the embassy during the incident, as well as at other recent protests.
Vucic said the embassy was protected and accused Markovic of “telling notorious falsehoods,” though he did not appear to comment on the flag burning itself.
U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro Judy Rising Reinke expressed shock over the attack.
“Shocked at the image of the desecrated #Montenegro flag at the country’s Belgrade Embassy," she said on Twitter on January 3. “Attack on a diplomatic mission is absolutely unacceptable. Difference of opinions must be resolved through dialogue, not violence or acts of vandalism."
In his comments to the press in Belgrade on January 4, Vucic took aim at the U.S. ambassador’s remarks.
"U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro [Judy Rising Reinke] was vocal yesterday, saying she was horrified by the scenes she witnessed in. Right, but [Rising Reinke] is not horrified by what's happening in Montenegro? She is not horrified when people are getting arrested just for carrying the Serbian flag?” Vucic said. “There are 30 percent of them there. She is not horrified that the Serbian language is not permitted there? She is not horrified that [the Montenegrin government] is stealing [the Serbian Orthodox] Church property? She is not horrified by any of that."
The embassy attack in Belgrade followed a basketball match between Serbia’s Red Star and Germany’s Bayern Munich.
Many of those taking part were members of the Serbian soccer fan group known as “delije.”
Members of delije, Serbian for “tough boys,” are known for their close ties with Serbia’s ruling nationalist party and the secret police.
Members of delije were behind attacks against Western embassies in Belgrade in 2008, when the U.S. Embassy in Belgrade was set on fire as police stood close by. The group was protesting against Kosovo’s declaration of independence from Serbia.

***** should man up
 

!Aoune32

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Montenegro Holds Journalist for Stirring ‘Panic’ Over Kosovo Intervention

January 6, 2020
Media union calls for release of a journalist detained for ‘causing panic’ by claiming that the government was mulling calling on the security forces in Kosovo to help subdue religion law protests.

Photo: EPA/Boris Pejovic
A media union has demanded the release of journalist Andjela Djikanovic, who was put in detention for 72 hours for “causing panic and disorder”, after claiming in an article that the government might call on security forces in neighbouring Kosovo to help quell protests over a new religion law.
Police on Sunday night arrested the editor-in-chief of Fos web site for writing that members of the Kosovo Special Police Forces were poised to intervene in Montenegro over Orthodox Christmas, which occurs a fortnight later than its Latin counterpart.
The prosecutor ordered the journalist to be detained because of the risk that she might repeat her actions. Her lawyer Milos Vuksanovic appealed, calling her detention over an article shocking. “Djikanovic did not want to disclose her source. She handed over her phone and laptop from which she released that information,” Vuksanovic told the media.
Mila Radulovic, from the Association of Professional Journalists of Montenegro, DPNCG, called for her release. “It is unacceptable to arrest journalists,” Radulovic told the media.
Citing unnamed diplomatic sources, Djikanovic wrote that the government might call on Kosovo to help subdue the ongoing protests over its concerns about the reliability of some Montenegrin police. The article said interviewees among the Montenegrin police did not confirm or deny the claim.
The claim was inflammatory, given that the protests against the new law on religion are being led by country’s large Serbian community – which maintains a deep aversion and hostility to the independence from Serbia of the mainly Albanian former province of Kosovo.
Following publication of the article, the government accused Fos media of publishing fake news whose sole aim was to alarm the public and even cause riots.
The government called on the prosecution to respond. The web site then withdrew the article and apologised, stating that it did not intend to spread panic. The claims made in the article were also denied by authorities in Kosovo, which stated that they respect Montenegrin sovereignty.
The Kosovo foreign ministry on Sunday said that “fake and ill-intentioned news does not serve sustainable peace and security in the region. We call on such circles to reconsider their harmful positions that serve to tense up inter-state, inter-ethnic and inter-religious relations”.
Protests have meanwhile continued across Montenegro and Serbia against the new law on religion, which Montenegro’s parliament adopted on December 27, despite fierce objections from the Serbian Orthodox Church, its supporters and pro-Serbian opposition parties.
Led by Serbian Orthodox clergy, tens of thousands of people have been calling for the law to be withdrawn, claiming that it will enable the authorities to confiscate the Serbian Orthodox Church’s property in Montenegro. The authorities have denied any such intention.

 

light-in-dark

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Serbian President Cancels Visit To Montenegro Amid Religious Dispute
January 04, 2020 18:43 GMT
Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic

Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has canceled an upcoming visit to Montenegro amid a dispute over a new Montenegrin religious rights law.
“I decided not to go, and that was agreed with [Serbian Patriarch] Irinej,'' Vucic said at a news conference in Belgrade on January 4. “We respect their independence."
Vucic had been planning to visit Serbian churches in Montenegro on Orthodox Christmas, which is celebrated on January 7. Montenegrin officials had said the visit would add fuel to the existing tensions in the small Balkan state.
Last month, Montenegro’s parliament passed a law under which religious communities must prove property ownership from before 1918, the year when predominantly Orthodox Christian Montenegro joined the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes.
Serbs say the new law will lead to the impounding of Serbian Orthodox Church property in Montenegro. Montenegrin officials have repeatedly denied the claim.
In 2006, Montenegro split from much larger Serbia following a referendum. About one-third of the small Balkan country’s 620,000 citizens declared themselves as Serbs and want close ties with Belgrade.
Vucic on January 4 also accused Montenegrin and unspecified Western officials of launching “a hysteric campaign of lies" when he first announced the visit.
He said he canceled it because of possible “clashes" that would “hurt the Serbian people in Montenegro."
Led by Orthodox priests and fueled by Serbian state media, thousands of Serbs in Montenegro have been staging daily protests in the small Balkan state, demanding that the law be annulled.
Serbian ultra-nationalists have also held protests against Montenegro's pro-Western government in the Serbian capital, Belgrade.
Thousands of soccer hooligans tried to burn the Montenegrin flag, threw flares and chanted “set it on fire” during a protest in front of the Montenegrin Embassy in Belgrade on January 2.
Montenegrin Prime Minister Dusko Markovic called the embassy attack an “uncivilized” act and that it was “stunning” Serbian police did not protect the embassy during the incident, as well as at other recent protests.
Vucic said the embassy was protected and accused Markovic of “telling notorious falsehoods,” though he did not appear to comment on the flag burning itself.
U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro Judy Rising Reinke expressed shock over the attack.
“Shocked at the image of the desecrated #Montenegro flag at the country’s Belgrade Embassy," she said on Twitter on January 3. “Attack on a diplomatic mission is absolutely unacceptable. Difference of opinions must be resolved through dialogue, not violence or acts of vandalism."
In his comments to the press in Belgrade on January 4, Vucic took aim at the U.S. ambassador’s remarks.
"U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro [Judy Rising Reinke] was vocal yesterday, saying she was horrified by the scenes she witnessed in. Right, but [Rising Reinke] is not horrified by what's happening in Montenegro? She is not horrified when people are getting arrested just for carrying the Serbian flag?” Vucic said. “There are 30 percent of them there. She is not horrified that the Serbian language is not permitted there? She is not horrified that [the Montenegrin government] is stealing [the Serbian Orthodox] Church property? She is not horrified by any of that."
The embassy attack in Belgrade followed a basketball match between Serbia’s Red Star and Germany’s Bayern Munich.
Many of those taking part were members of the Serbian soccer fan group known as “delije.”
Members of delije, Serbian for “tough boys,” are known for their close ties with Serbia’s ruling nationalist party and the secret police.
Members of delije were behind attacks against Western embassies in Belgrade in 2008, when the U.S. Embassy in Belgrade was set on fire as police stood close by. The group was protesting against Kosovo’s declaration of independence from Serbia.

***** should man up
The Serbian president looks like the Shia political analyst Habib fayyad.
By the way where Habib fayyad is these days. No one hear about him after thawra
 
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