Syrian and Israeli Druze are a Lebanese Diaspora

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ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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South Syria didn't have any Druze in the 1700s when a Druze man from the Lebanese Hamdan family (most likely originating from Ain Qanyeh near Hasbaya) migrated there with his wife and started encouraging other Lebanese Druze to join him.


As opposed to what people seem to think that Leb Druze come from Syrian Druze, because the Syrian Druze now are a bigger population. Up to the 1800s, the Leb Druze were the biggest population of Druze.

And Druze genetics whether in Syria, Israel or Lebanon remains the closest to the Lebanese. Syrian Druze are strikingly different than their other Syrian counterparts from what I've seen on GedMatch. Although Syrian genetics are not that well-studied.




Also the settlement in modern-day Israel had happened around the 1600s, Fakhridine II is said to have found the Golan heights to be very tactical and full of agricultural lands Druze can take advantage of. So a recent migration as well in the course of history and a Lebanese diaspora that preserved its genetics.
 
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    HOW MANY THREADS did u open about this argument ..

    open one thread about genetics and lets t discuss there .,. maybe someone have a scientifuc insight into it , the guy zallou3a maybe :D can be of a help
     
    Orangina

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    South Syria didn't have any Druze in the 1700s when a Druze man from the Lebanese Hamdan family (most likely originating from Ain Qanyeh near Hasbaya) migrated there with his wife and started encouraging other Lebanese Druze to join him.


    As opposed to what people seem to think that Leb Druze come from Syrian Druze, because the Syrian Druze now are a bigger population. Up to the 1800s, the Leb Druze were the biggest population of Druze.

    And Druze genetics whether in Syria, Israel or Lebanon remains the closest to the Lebanese. Syrian Druze are strikingly different than their other Syrian counterparts from what I've seen on GedMatch. Although Syrian genetics are not that well-studied.




    Also the settlement in modern-day Israel had happened around the 1600s, Fakhridine II is said to have found the Golan heights to be very tactical and full of agricultural lands Druze can take advantage of. So a recent migration as well in the course of history and a Lebanese diaspora that preserved its genetics.
    very interesting
    ما لفت انتباهي في الفيديو ان الشيخ تكلم عن طارق زيدان الامين العيسمي المداح... رئيس الجمهورية الفنزوالي
    ولكن هذا الشخص حسب ما يقال متورط بتهم كثيرة بالفساد وتبييض الاموال
    I am aware this is not the subject of the thread... but it impressed me how the cheikh was talking abt this person with pride

    anw again nice and very interesting
     
    SAVO

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    check this result of mine :

    Eurogenes K13 ANCIENT









































































































    Distance to: Das
    11.29358668 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730
    15.54652373 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
    15.54652373 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
    17.22264498 Sidon_BA_ERS1790731
    20.49084430 IA_Ardea_R850
    20.52213926 CL30_collegno_italy_longobard
    21.33556655 CL38_collegno_italy_longobard
    21.47480384 i1632_areni_merged
    21.52246268 CL25_collegno_italy_longobard
    23.87344969 I1665_IRAN_CHL_I1665
    24.49148628 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_3943_BC
    27.79119465 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    28.26762459 i1674_iranchl
    28.39034871 SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard
    28.87610084 LevantBA_M291439
    29.85589389 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    30.11867029 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
    30.19969205 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
    30.21294590 i1662_iranchl
    30.54042076 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    31.59274759 copt315_copt315
    31.64531719 I3808_iberia
    31.87293836 I8215_2iberia
    31.99064394 I8215_3iberia
    32.02310416 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
     
    ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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    check this result of mine :

    Eurogenes K13 ANCIENT









































































































    Distance to: Das
    11.29358668 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730
    15.54652373 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
    15.54652373 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
    17.22264498 Sidon_BA_ERS1790731
    20.49084430 IA_Ardea_R850
    20.52213926 CL30_collegno_italy_longobard
    21.33556655 CL38_collegno_italy_longobard
    21.47480384 i1632_areni_merged
    21.52246268 CL25_collegno_italy_longobard
    23.87344969 I1665_IRAN_CHL_I1665
    24.49148628 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_3943_BC
    27.79119465 CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem
    28.26762459 i1674_iranchl
    28.39034871 SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard
    28.87610084 LevantBA_M291439
    29.85589389 SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard
    30.11867029 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
    30.19969205 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
    30.21294590 i1662_iranchl
    30.54042076 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
    31.59274759 copt315_copt315
    31.64531719 I3808_iberia
    31.87293836 I8215_2iberia
    31.99064394 I8215_3iberia
    32.02310416 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
    Close results to mine.

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    ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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    holly shit ..

    we belong to the same tribe dude :D
    I will convince the Druze elders to take you within the faith and reveal our hermetic secrets to you.
    You're the closest to Leb Druze, right?
     
    SAVO

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    I will convince the Druze elders to take you within the faith and reveal our hermetic secrets to you.
    You're the closest to Leb Druze, right?


    No no.. you follow me to Odin path cousin :D

    The old way. The way of our longobards ancestors ;)
     
    ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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    hermes was greek god ...

    ODIN was the god of the Germanic and hun tribes
    They both originate from The Egyptian God Thoth.
    Inspired from a wandering hermit in Ancient Egypt and India... The Master of all Masters... Which inspired Gods elsewhere and is looked upon as the lips of wisdom.
    Druze, freemasons, gnostics, Bahaais refer to Hermes as the Egyptian wanderer.
     
    SAVO

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    They both originate from The Egyptian God Thoth.
    Inspired from a wandering hermit in Ancient Egypt and India... The Master of all Masters... Which inspired Gods elsewhere and is looked upon as the lips of wisdom.
    Druze, freemasons, gnostics, Bahaais refer to Hermes as the Egyptian wanderer.

    most of aryan population have indo european origin ... they came from today iran and india to europe ..through the Kavkaz and anatolia ..

    druze maintained some mystical elements from induism i guess and later adapted it on islam , in order to survive..



    excuse me im not very expert on druze beliefs..its just an assumption..
     
    ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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    most of aryan population have indo european origin ... they came from today iran and india to europe ..through the Kavkaz and anatolia ..
    druze maintained some mystical elements from induism i guess and later adapted it on islam , in order to survive..
    excuse me im not very expert on druze beliefs..its just an assumption..
    All religions are rooted from Hinduism.

    Islam is basically zorostarianism + Judaism, which are both deformations of Hinduism.

    Druze faith if followed goes back to Ancient Egypt and mystery cults within it.
    Egypt is a main front.

    And then yes, to India.
    To look for the origin of all religions, one has to look to the East.
     
    vicking

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    All people from Levant including in Lebanon, Syria or Israel are from the same families. We mixed over the years but afterall, we are the same
     
    ܐܵܠܘܼܟ̰ܵܐ

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    All people from Levant including in Lebanon, Syria or Israel are from the same families. We mixed over the years but afterall, we are the same
    That's a matter of what you consider different to be.
    I see a clear distance between Syrian Druze and other Syrians. Indicating they are Lebanese and clustering with us.
     
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