The Exploits, Excesses and Hysteria of the Black Hearted Ziad

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  • Dr. Strangelove

    Dr. Strangelove

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    I beg to differ. Ziad Aswad is absolutely right: HA cannot resist massive international pressure and fight for liberation while at the same time not helping eradicate the internal corruption plunging its people into poverty and hunger.

    Aswad did not attack Hezbollah, yet now Berri's stooges are going all-out attacking Tayyar. Why, do you think?

    No one has ever defended HA so fiercely on the international stage as the president and Bassil. Berri's Amal Movement, meanwhile, has done nothing but suck the people dry, including (especially?) the Shia. HA needs to do the right thing and support Tayyar in fighting corruption, or else it will likely fail in its mission.
     
    SeaAb

    SeaAb

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    Black hearted? :lol:

    I watched the whole interview. He said what a lot of FPMers truly believe. Ma tenghash, things can't go on like this. You care about the 'Resistance and its arms' before anything else, we don't. Our priorities aren't the same, Iran, Jerusalem, Yemen, Iraq, etc. aren't even on our radar. 7adder 7alak and prop up your minions from Frangieh, Al Khazen and Azar.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    I beg to differ. Ziad Aswad is absolutely right: HA cannot resist massive international pressure and fight for liberation while at the same time not helping eradicate the internal corruption plunging its people into poverty and hunger.

    Aswad did not attack Hezbollah, yet now Berri's stooges are going all-out attacking Tayyar. Why, do you think?

    No one has ever defended HA so fiercely on the international stage as the president and Bassil. Berri's Amal Movement, meanwhile, has done nothing but suck the people dry, including (especially?) the Shia. HA needs to do the right thing and support Tayyar in fighting corruption, or else it will likely fail in its mission.
    Fighting corruption can be done in the context of the state. You cant mix fighting corruption on the one hand while propagating a political demand on the other. It amounts to backstabbing. And at such critical time, openly making such position amounts to nothing but betrayal. If this is the official stance of the FPM, then it is a major problem.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Black hearted? :lol:

    I watched the whole interview. He said what a lot of FPMers truly believe. Ma tenghash, things can't go on like this. You care about the 'Resistance and its arms' before anything else, we don't. Our priorities aren't the same, Iran, Jerusalem, Yemen, Iraq, etc. aren't even on our radar. 7adder 7alak and prop up your minions from Frangieh, Al Khazen and Azar.
    So implicitly, you are saying: what the enemies have not been able to accomplish through war, we should surrender our power and strip naked and raise our hands up. That is not going to happen. The other side doesnt care too what your priorities are, if you want to act indifferent. If you feel burdened, leave whatever understanding or alliance there is honorably and he should not behave like a political prostitute on TV full of treachery. Apparently, FPM would only be conceived as a fair weather ally after positions in govt and power and nothing else. Otherwise, we can also ask, what have you achieved in 15 years being in govt? You finally discovered Lebanon is not a one man show. Are all your MPs and ministers free of corruption allegations and saintly?

    You are already admitting that the economic turmoil is an extension of the wars which the enemies have lost. And regardless what your priorities are, and how innocent, naive or outright foolish and hasty your conclusions are, we are not going to lose or give up. What we did not lose through wars wont be lost through economic blackmail. At least, not before ensuring that we face no external threats and all our concerns are met. Besides, Lebanon reached this stage mainly through incompetent leadership, corruption, stealing and maladministration of the same people you have allied with (Hariri).

    Ziad started speaking about the Palestinians. And he then said after the Palestinian issue is solved, then we have to discuss the arms of Hezballah. That is great. But who said the international community is willing to solve the Palestinian refugee crisis through any way other than Tawteen? Would you agree to Tawteen in exchange for economic/financial aid? If he can solve the Palestinian refugee crisis with Israehell and the international community and have the Palestinians moved from Lebanon, that is 50% of our conflict with Israhell sorted. Let him do that first and then we can reach the stage of talking about Hezballah's weapons. If not, there is no point is scattering dust. I think the MoU is clear on these stuffs. I wonder why this man who always talks like someone boiling with hatred found need to bring up a contentious discussion in a way not in line with the MoU.

    We are not going to surrender because some foreign powers have decided to punish Lebanon economically and instigate their dogs in Lebanon to bark louder. Those dogs have no right over Hezballah and their demands wont be heard. They have to sort their hunger and problems with their foreign masters who are using them as expendables for regional agenda. They have always been traitors and opposed to the survival of our existence. If their foreign masters are using hunger, boycott or sanctions to instigate or incite them, that is not our problem. We have never been a unified country after all, and if foreign powers are punishing their Lebanese minions who have always been opposed to us, they are doing us favor, not harming us. As for the Shia, we will offer our unswerving support and unwavering support to Hezballah to the fullest and maximum level through patience, steadfastness and understanding. Hezballah represents the largest community in Lebanon and got the most votes in parliamentary election. We trust in its leadership. They will do the right thing, whether through refusal to bow or acceptance to negotiate or open confrontation. In any case, we trust in their decision. If you dont trust your ally and cannot reach understanding quietly with them, you have a problem with yourselves. If someone like Fares Soueid would have barked in this way on live TV, we can understand and we know we have many opponents and enemies and we dont care. But for an MP, considered part of the bloc of an ally, to openly make such treacherous remarks, it is a big shame on him. FPM has the moral obligation to make a public declaration and disown what the black Hearted Ziad ranted.
     
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    Ralph N

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    So they did it... The mental way. Destroying hizb alla from the inside without war....
    2 years from now, Berri will rule.. Amal will rule..

    Thats what happens when you let the corrupt and the traitor keep his position...

    Berri American Agent is destroying hizb alla..
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    So they did it... The mental way. Destroying hizb alla from the inside without war....
    2 years from now, Berri will rule.. Amal will rule..

    Thats what happens when you let the corrupt and the traitor keep his position...

    Berri American Agent is destroying hizb alla..
    Regardless of how evil you think Berri is because of corruption, this topic is about an FPM MP who went publicly to make treacherous remarks. An FPM members is the first to bark.
     
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    Ralph N

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    Regardless of how evil you think Berri is because of corruption, this topic is about an FPM MP who went publicly to make treacherous remarks. An FPM members is the first to bark.
    When you Let frangier make 3antar zameno, when you let ali hassan khalil create TVA problem for dair ammar, for 50$m we lose 20 billion dollars, when you support ziad hawwat in elections in municipality in jbeil, when you refrain from supporting in 2010 baladiyet in ashrafiye, when you show us that full power you are against us in elections, and in every islah event ... people will just be fed up..

    I am with the resistance arms, I will never allow this weapon to be taken, it is a strategic support for the country whoever says we dont need it is a liar or a traitor, but inner politics you suck a lot... a lot... You betrayed your only true ally.. you back stabbed him... (MIchel Aoun). If it wasnt for the americans Michel Aoun would not have been president, 8 Adar not one single vote went to Michel Aoun, only Hizb alla... Even talal erslan el maslahdji didnt vote for us...

    do to others what you wish them do to you.... Karma is a *****...
    Remember Hizb alla have so little time that even if they keep berri for 6 more months they sill start rapidly losing control... keep that in mind.
     
    Dr. Strangelove

    Dr. Strangelove

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    Regardless of how evil you think Berri is because of corruption, this topic is about an FPM MP who went publicly to make treacherous remarks. An FPM members is the first to bark.
    We are replying to a set of useless, inflammatory tweets you posted with polite counterpoints, yet you use the term "bark".

    Anyway, how is what Aswad said treacherous? Does any criticism of HA's stances amount to treachery? Is there not truth in what he is saying? Is it not devoid of malice?
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    When you Let frangier make 3antar zameno, when you let ali hassan khalil create TVA problem for dair ammar, for 50$m we lose 20 billion dollars, when you support ziad hawwat in elections in municipality in jbeil, when you refrain from supporting in 2010 baladiyet in ashrafiye, when you show us that full power you are against us in elections, and in every islah event ... people will just be fed up..

    I am with the resistance arms, I will never allow this weapon to be taken, it is a strategic support for the country whoever says we dont need it is a liar or a traitor, but inner politics you suck a lot... a lot... You betrayed your only true ally.. you back stabbed him... (MIchel Aoun). If it wasnt for the americans Michel Aoun would not have been president, 8 Adar not one single vote went to Michel Aoun, only Hizb alla... Even talal erslan el maslahdji didnt vote for us...

    do to others what you wish them do to you.... Karma is a *****...
    Remember Hizb alla have so little time that even if they keep berri for 6 more months they sill start rapidly losing control... keep that in mind.
    I am not concerned about your grievances on internal issues and how you think your ally should have benefitted you more and I don't know the extent of your alliance with Hezballah to oblige them to follow every step you take.

    We are discussing here Ziad and his attack on the resistance, which is unacceptable even to people like myself who are nor part of Hezballah. And i am happy you are against what he said. So stop and dont rant and mix up issues.

    Please stay on topic. Dont force my mind to remember this:

     
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    Ralph N

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    I am not concerned about your grievances on internal issues and how you think your ally should have benefitted you more and I don't know the extent of your alliance with Hezballah to oblige them to follow every step you take.

    We are discussing here Ziad and his attack on the resistance, which is unacceptable even to people like myself who are nor part of Hezballah. And i am happy you are against what he said. So stop and dont rant and mix up issues.

    Please stay on topic. Dont force my mind to remember this:

    Until you expell the traitors you have in wiki leaks who is berri saying to filtman to keep the bombing and by the time he will rule all over shi3a areas dont speak about Ziad Asswad Ya joubanna..
    Shatrin 3al massihe because he isnt Azaar?!!
    Dabrou la Berri isa into rjel...

    4. (C) Berri said he believed that if a cease-fire were achieved today, Hizballah would certainly claim victory and be politically and militarily emboldened by having forced an Israeli-cease fire without having turned over the two IDF

    5. (C) Berri said he thought Hizballah had miscalculated Israel's response when they executed their kidnapping operation last Wednesday, but admitted that he felt betrayed by Nasrallah for misleading Lebanon with assurances of stability during the national dialogue. "We can never sit down at the table with him again. We think he lied to us."

    6. (C) Unfortunately, Berri suggested, for the overwhelming force shown by Israel in the past week, they have had only limited success in weakening Hizballah militarily.
    "In the past week, they have killed only three Hizballah fighters!"

    he claimed, citing a figure of 150 dead overall.

    Berri said that the IDF would have to markedly improve its targeting intelligence to make air strikes more effective. Either that, or they would have to wipe Hizballah out of the south with a ground offensive.
    "But they won't be able to sustain that for very long. They will have casualties, and popular opinion in Israel will turn against them."

    Farjounna shataretkon 3al azaar el traitor...

    Wikileaks was true.. every one in the world knows it... Shatreen bas 3al edame..
    Ba3den Ziad Aswad yelle bi albo 3alla ras elseno, ma bi khawef.... Khaf men yelle bi khounnak..
    Metel ma ento khento el FPM 14 senne.
     
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    Ralph N

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    10. (C) Berri, of course, is an ally of Syria and Iran. BEIRUT 00002407 003 OF 003 But, the quintessential Lebanese political survivor, he's not a fully-owned subsidiary of the two, and it would be inaccurate to see him simply as "Hizballah-lite." If Berri can be weaned away from his Hizballah tactical alliance, Hizballah would no longer be able to use Lebanon's strange confessional politics to veto any initiative not in its (or Syria's) interest. We are certain that Berri hates Hizballah as much, or even more, than the March 14 politicians; after all, Hizballah's support (with the exception of General Aoun and those who blindly follow him) is drawn from the Shia who might otherwise be with Berri.
     
    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    We are replying to a set of useless, inflammatory tweets you posted with polite counterpoints, yet you use the term "bark".

    Anyway, how is what Aswad said treacherous? Does any criticism of HA's stances amount to treachery? Is there not truth in what he is saying? Is it not devoid of malice?
    He is asking the resistance to surrender, after the Palestinian refugee crisis is sorted. That is great. So let him tell us how long will it take him to solve the Palestinian refugee crisis in Lebanon. Or is he ready for Tawteen in exchange for money? Let the FPM clarify. Then, his remarks about Hezballah would fall into place. Otherwise, his remarks speak of deep seated hatred. He is the only anti Shia MP in the FPM. If he hates us, we hate him too without apologies. This isnt the first time this dog is misfiring from his @$$ and got a reply and I'm sure it wont be the last.

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    Rafidi

    Rafidi

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    Until you expell the traitors you have in wiki leaks who is berri saying to filtman to keep the bombing and by the time he will rule all over shi3a areas dont speak about Ziad Asswad Ya joubanna..
    Shatrin 3al massihe because he isnt Azaar?!!
    Dabrou la Berri isa into rjel...

    4. (C) Berri said he believed that if a cease-fire were achieved today, Hizballah would certainly claim victory and be politically and militarily emboldened by having forced an Israeli-cease fire without having turned over the two IDF

    5. (C) Berri said he thought Hizballah had miscalculated Israel's response when they executed their kidnapping operation last Wednesday, but admitted that he felt betrayed by Nasrallah for misleading Lebanon with assurances of stability during the national dialogue. "We can never sit down at the table with him again. We think he lied to us."

    6. (C) Unfortunately, Berri suggested, for the overwhelming force shown by Israel in the past week, they have had only limited success in weakening Hizballah militarily.
    "In the past week, they have killed only three Hizballah fighters!"

    he claimed, citing a figure of 150 dead overall.

    Berri said that the IDF would have to markedly improve its targeting intelligence to make air strikes more effective. Either that, or they would have to wipe Hizballah out of the south with a ground offensive.
    "But they won't be able to sustain that for very long. They will have casualties, and popular opinion in Israel will turn against them."

    Farjounna shataretkon 3al azaar el traitor...

    Wikileaks was true.. every one in the world knows it... Shatreen bas 3al edame..
    Ba3den Ziad Aswad yelle bi albo 3alla ras elseno, ma bi khawef.... Khaf men yelle bi khounnak..
    Metel ma ento khento el FPM 14 senne.
    Lal sara7a ne7na ma bnootha bi kalam w ittihamat Feltman yalleh tsarrabo 3abrel Wikileaks. If you believe him, your problem.

     
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