The French Initiative [BREAKING: Mikati PM-designate]

TayyarBeino

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21:37
مصادر المنار: الاسماء المتداولة للتكليف هي رؤساء الحكومة السابقون نجيب ميقاتي وتمام سلام والنائب فيصل كرامي
21:35
كشفت مصادر "المنار" أن رئيس مجلس النواب نبيه بري نجح في حصد دعم رئيس المستقبل سعد الحريري لتسمية رئيس مقبل للحكومة
 

Skairipa

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Mossad, you misunderstand the concept. Usually, adding siyesiyeh to any name depicts a longterm impact on the course of Lebanese events of a whole package of policies, history and political conduct of a certain movement or party led by one man, family or sect.
Your buddy little mickey007 used it correctly so on Aoun and his movement. Same can be applied to the Mar Maroun sect and the Hariri family.

In Ja3ja3 and LF's case the term does not apply, it's non-existent, partly because Ja3ja3 is a nobody but only in his me3ze's minds, but mostly due to both his and his party's irrelevance to the broad political course of the country. A useful idiot leading useful idiots in a party often used by outside 7arkousheen, like your mossad self, to yuck the christians on the inside.
Aounists have been playing the tune that Geagea and LF are irrelevant since 2005. If after all of what happened in the past 16 years you did not alter your views even slightly, I'm sorry to say but you don't get to call anyone sheep. Between 1990 and 2005, LF was banned and its cadres hunted. Since 2005, they've been growing steadily in power. As an organization, they put FPM to shame in all aspects. They carry Bkerki's blessing and represent the historical line of the Maronite church.

3awniyyi siyesiyyi applied a scorched earth policy at the expense of the country and its citizens in order to make a narcissistic megalomaniac President. That is some impact on the course of Lebanese events that I and I suspect most Lebanese* can do without (*not majousis).
And you know I am anti-HA.. Huh?
A dollar short and a day late. Even if you personally were against them, Bassil is in bed with them all the way. Like his father-in-law, he is also after personal ambition that only the strong can deliver on.
 

JB81

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19:47 - علم موقع "أم تي في" أنّ مسؤولين فرنسيّين أبلغوا جهات سياسيّة لبنانيّة أنّ الحكومة الجديدة يجب أن تُشكّل قبل ٤ آب المقبل وإلا سيُباشَر بفرض عقوبات بالتنسيق مع الأميركيّين على عددٍ من المسؤولين اللبنانيّين.

مرحبا بطرك الحياد والسيادة
 

Hooksy

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I would like to know which candidate the FPMers want to see as PM? and why.

Screw Mikati and Hariri whal orta.
I think most FPMers would love to see Layla Soleh as PM, but for various reasons this won't happen any time soon in Lebanon. She is one of a kind, does not do childish or sectarian politics, so far away from bickering, and has the respect of the majority of the Lebanese. Nawaf Salam is probably the choice of GMA and Bassil, but apparently they hold little to no sway in selecting the PM. As for the why, neither one of the seem to be power-hungry, and they are not mired in corruption as far as I know.
 

My Moria Moon

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Aounists have been playing the tune that Geagea and LF are irrelevant since 2005.

That's everyone's opinion not only Aounists. You only need to look at how they were, and still are, treated by everyone.

If after all of what happened in the past 16 years you did not alter your views even slightly, I'm sorry to say but you don't get to call anyone sheep.

It's a universe in perpetual motion, and so, as the perspectives change, so do my views. They are constantly changing about many things with few exceptions, for example sheep, and for a reason. Even though everything moves, sheep are fixed, they don't change.

Between 1990 and 2005, LF was banned and its cadres hunted. Since 2005, they've been growing steadily in power. As an organization, they put FPM to shame in all aspects. They carry Bkerki's blessing and represent the historical line of the Maronite church.

Mossad, even if you suck at poetry, you just proved my point. Only a complete idioto fights his own army claiming he's defending his militia weapons that protect the christians, but consequently ends up giving up those weapons to his sworn worst enemy, and for a "thank you" gets an 11 years long vacation in an underground serdeb ta7t el 2ard. Behold the thought for a second, on a ja7shaneh scale from 1 to 10, where do you place him? I say he's definitely 11.


3awniyyi siyesiyyi applied a scorched earth policy at the expense of the country and its citizens in order to make a narcissistic megalomaniac President. That is some impact on the course of Lebanese events that I and I suspect most Lebanese* can do without (*not majousis).

You and I do know that Mossad is anti-Aoun, not because Aoun is Pro HA, because Mossad is also pro HA and vice versa, but because Aoun came back to destroy the haririya siyasiyah and reclaim back the Christians Taif-looted guarantees to remain on this land, using the MoU, even if not many make the connection. And you and I do know that your Israeli overlords would rather see Lebanon emptied of its christians and inhabited majorly by muslims so you can brag to the presumable western tourists about your uniqueness in openness and westernized lifestyle in an environment so fully occupied by not so open and western friendly muslims.

If those applauding you LFers were less of the useful idiots they are, they'd join hands with Aoun and make sure they stay a little longer on this land.

If you think I, and probably many with me, forgot about the nuking of Beirut by your planes, I didn't. Bass you can hope el sattouleen bel LF will always do.
 
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Bandar

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Aoun came back to destroy the haririya siyasiyah and reclaim back the Christians Taif-looted guarantees to remain on this land, using the MoU, even if not many make the connection. And you and I do know that your Israeli overlords would rather see Lebanon emptied of its christians and inhabited majorly by muslims
haa
hahaahhaah
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaah

Siri please tell me Lebanese Christian net emigration since 3ahd el feshel

ironically, aoun's presidency probably was the nail in the coffin for Christians in lebanon, simply due to how many have left and how many will leave ASAP.

your party kneels and kisses syrian boots.

LF pulls syrians out of their cars and busts their heads in.

never forget what is what.
 

My Moria Moon

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haa
hahaahhaah
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaah

Siri please tell me Lebanese Christian net emigration since 3ahd el feshel

ironically, aoun's presidency probably was the nail in the coffin for Christians in lebanon, simply due to how many have left and how many will leave ASAP.

your party kneels and kisses syrian boots.

LF pulls syrians out of their cars and busts their heads in.

never forget what is what.

hihihihihi
yes it is funny i agree.
bass wrong conclusion.. hahahahahahahaha

Those who now leave are evenly spread among the confessions. Take that to the World Bank w 3eesh b feyedta.

As for the nail in the coffin, the country is doomed to hell heik heik, with or without its christian inhabitants. But till then, better have al 7aririya al siyasiya with its looters, thieves and charlatans, dead and buried before.
Why so you may ask. Simply because IF, and only IF, we ever get a chance to economically recover, and until a more advanced governing system of ta3ayoush is installed, restoring the balance in political power sharing between the confessions will be guarantee enough for the remaining Christians to remain where they are.
 

Steven Gerrard

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hihihihihi
yes it is funny i agree.
bass wrong conclusion.. hahahahahahahaha

Those who now leave are evenly spread among the confessions. Take that to the World Bank w 3eesh b feyedta.

As for the nail in the coffin, the country is doomed to hell heik heik, with or without its christian inhabitants. But till then, better have al 7aririya al siyasiya with its looters, thieves and charlatans, dead and buried before.
Why so you may ask. Simply because IF, and only IF, we ever get a chance to economically recover, and until a more advanced governing system of ta3ayoush is installed, restoring the balance in political power sharing between the confessions will be guarantee enough for the remaining Christians to remain where they are.

unfortunately sectarian politics rule Lebanon and people are very sectarian to the point that their religion is their identity (even though they have a lot in common in terms of values/cultures). You can't live in harmony when you have a Sunni leader ruling over Christians and vice versa.

Only way is federalize the country and allow sects rule their own sects, as much as I hate it but this is how it is.

"Good fences make good neighbors"
 

Bandar

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Those who now leave are evenly spread among the confessions. Take that to the World Bank w 3eesh b feyedta.
sunni and shia can lose 1 million people each and still have 1 million+ left over in the country. if everyone is leaving in the same numbers (very unlikely, since sunnis in akkar and trablos, and shia in jnoub have a much more difficult time immigrating) then that is still catastrophic for Christians in particular

As for the nail in the coffin, the country is doomed to hell heik heik, with or without its christian inhabitants.
wrong. Lebanon's prosperity is directly linked to how many Christians live in lebanon. you can take THAT to the world bank and they will cash you out with fresh dollars.

But till then, better have al 7aririya al siyasiya with its looters, thieves and charlatans, dead and buried before.
almost anything is better than what the country is going through right now. i was taking a shower today, in the dark, because there's no electricity, and i was wondering which rulers in the world could possibly be worse than aoun. da3esh was the only one i could think of. maybe kim jong un. you can talk about haririye siyasiye corruption from the comfort of canada or australia or wherever the hell you are, but 90% of the people in lebanon would kill to go back to 2005-2010 days. because they are starving and have no medicine or fuel. and they remember that only a few years ago we weren't iraq 2.0. only a few years ago we weren't an iranian outpost that sends our fuel and medicine to syria and let our own people die in hospitals.

Why so you may ask. Simply because IF, and only IF, we ever get a chance to economically recover, and until a more advanced governing system of ta3ayoush is installed, restoring the balance in political power sharing between the confessions will be guarantee enough for the remaining Christians to remain where they are.
i am sure hezb will let Christians keep 50% of the government when they are 10% of the population. mhm.
 

My Moria Moon

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Orange Room Supporter
unfortunately sectarian politics rule Lebanon and people are very sectarian to the point that their religion is their identity (even though they have a lot in common in terms of values/cultures). You can't live in harmony when you have a Sunni leader ruling over Christians and vice versa.

Only way is federalize the country and allow sects rule their own sects, as much as I hate it but this is how it is.

"Good fences make good neighbors"
The idea behind "you rule yourself, I rule myself" is actually not bad. You don't mind looters and thieves ruling you, have them and deal with them. I deal with mine.

We can still do business, exchange food recipes, wives and husbands, but you neither impose your world, regional view or wars on me and I wouldn't impose the sight of bikinis on you. All done in utter love and understanding.
 

Steven Gerrard

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The idea behind "you rule yourself, I rule myself" is actually not bad. You don't mind looters and thieves ruling you, have them and deal with them. I deal with mine.

We can still do business, exchange food recipes, wives and husbands, but you neither impose your world, regional view or wars on me and I wouldn't impose the sight of bikinis on you. All done in utter love and understanding.

If Nabatiye wants to ban alcohol because it's a conservative city, fair enough people will go to jezzine or marja3yoon for drinks.

everyone is happy.
 

My Moria Moon

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sunni and shia can lose 1 million people each and still have 1 million+ left over in the country. if everyone is leaving in the same numbers (very unlikely, since sunnis in akkar and trablos, and shia in jnoub have a much more difficult time immigrating) then that is still catastrophic for Christians in particular

Western countries embassies don't issue visas based on your religious belief, that's a tall tale you hear. They look firstly for your money then education, profession / skills and of course reputation, to calculate whether you'd be a good or bad bet for them. In this regard, the social and financial differences between christians and muslims are evened out by now.

wrong. Lebanon's prosperity is directly linked to how many Christians live in lebanon. you can take THAT to the world bank and they will cash you out with fresh dollars.

Exactly what type of prosperity do you have in mind? Because Hariri baba w hariri boubboo w tant hariri and the running sheeple behind them seem to have a different opinion.

almost anything is better than what the country is going through right now. i was taking a shower today, in the dark, because there's no electricity, and i was wondering which rulers in the world could possibly be worse than aoun. da3esh was the only one i could think of. maybe kim jong un. you can talk about haririye siyasiye corruption from the comfort of canada or australia or wherever the hell you are, but 90% of the people in lebanon would kill to go back to 2005-2010 days. because they are starving and have no medicine or fuel. and they remember that only a few years ago we weren't iraq 2.0. only a few years ago we weren't an iranian outpost that sends our fuel and medicine to syria and let our own people die in hospitals.

The air balloon that now detonates in your face was being constantly filled during so many years with the farts and burps of the Hariris, the Berris and the Joumblatis. You do understand that such balloon is doomed to explode, and you end up in severe nausea, at any date between 1990 and 2033? It so happened today, tough luck for Aoun it did under his watch, but ultimately, tough luck mostly for you.

i am sure hezb will let Christians keep 50% of the government when they are 10% of the population. mhm.
oh, they will, they have you to watch for.
 
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Apostate

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The idea behind "you rule yourself, I rule myself" is actually not bad. You don't mind looters and thieves ruling you, have them and deal with them. I deal with mine.

We can still do business, exchange food recipes, wives and husbands, but you neither impose your world, regional view or wars on me and I wouldn't impose the sight of bikinis on you. All done in utter love and understanding.

what about us infidels in gharbiyyeh who want to enjoy the sight of bikinis and get shit-faced drunk? can we move to the holy land of shar2iye?
 

My Moria Moon

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what about us infidels in gharbiyyeh who want to enjoy the sight of bikinis and get shit-faced drunk? can we move to the holy land of shar2iye?

Infidels have always a reserved beach row in shar2iye where they can gloat at bikinis, smoke weed and drool over the riches they couldn't get in gharbiyeh. Just call me before you come and I'll upgrade your seat to sand-balcony premium.
 
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