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The French Initiative [Saad Hariri renamed as PM]

agnostic

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السني يطالب بالداخلية دايماً إلو عادي
الشيعي يطالب بالمالية إلو دايماً عادي
الدرزي يطالب بوزارة مهمة عادي
بس وقت #جبران_باسيل يجرب يطالب بي شي للمسيحيين بيصير طائفي
بتجي لتواجهن إنو ليه ما بدن مسيحي قوي بي لبنان بتلاقي حالك عم تتحارب كمان من باقي الأحزاب المسيحية
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Sick and obsolete propaganda.
As my corruptible* Grand-Father once said : على قدر أهل العزم تأتي العزائم


* : He added : وتأتي على قدر الكرام المكارم 👎
 
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Resign

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@EAkiki3

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السني يطالب بالداخلية دايماً إلو عادي
الشيعي يطالب بالمالية إلو دايماً عادي
الدرزي يطالب بوزارة مهمة عادي
بس وقت #جبران_باسيل يجرب يطالب بي شي للمسيحيين بيصير طائفي
بتجي لتواجهن إنو ليه ما بدن مسيحي قوي بي لبنان بتلاقي حالك عم تتحارب كمان من باقي الأحزاب المسيحية
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Wein el عادي ?
kif ?
el 3alam 3am betbaze2 3a HA/Amal right now exactly as it always did with FPM
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
no no, tawwil belak la7za, don't run away. We were talking l i b e r a t i n g Shebaa (not to forget Jayin bel Malayin 3a Filastin). Now you're telling me "shou baddna bi Shebaa", we're enjoying peace since 14 years? Ayya Peace w ka rajoul? We're going to Al Quds, also remember the Israelis still own your skies and your seas, occasionally bomb and kill your folks in Syria and Lebanon. Not good if we keep idling. Else why tar2 el khoutabet in every occasion about liberation w resistance?

tsu2, too much arms yet too little actions. Khayye, I want to join the resistance because nafad sabreh, badde 2estarji3 Shibaa wel Quds asap, hek el Sayyid wa3adna wa3d sadiq.. When can I start? I'm not shia, but I'm willing to convert, just promise me some quick action after my onboarding.

Iyyem el 3ez ma Kent tfez!!! Mish shagheltak.

But you made a false claim. When last did Israehell kill any resistance fighter on Lebanese soil? Even the ones they targeted and killed in Syria, they were quick to absolve themselves and claim it is by "mistake".

There is no need for rush. Everything has its time and place. But since this resistance is a "chicken", why is Israehell still bothered? Why do you and your likes feel the need to neutralise it, get it out of the way or disarm it? Walaw...it is so ineffective. Why not enjoy your triumph?
 

Rafidi

Legendary Member
We can at least have a general rotation every 4 years. Everyone goes to other posts.

Lesh ba3ed ma shbe3to?

Ya 3ammeh. Sunnis have held on to the PM posts for 77 years after independence. Maronites have held on to the presidency for 77 years after independence. Why not the Sunnis and the Maronites agree to each give the Shia just a little taste of each post for 7 years only? Ma badna aktar. Just share with us a little. And afterwards, we would give them back to you for another 77 years each!!!

You arent more than us in numbers or in anything. You're not more powerful. You are not richer. You are not anymore more educated. Ya 3ammeh into ma bteste7o inno fi bi baladkon nizam ta2ifey, 3onsoreh, apartheid w me7terken a3la manaseb bil dawleh? Kif Elkon 3ayn te7ko 3an wizara ya bala damir, ya bala 7ayah, ya wo7oosh (I'm borrowing Sami's word) t3isho ma3 ghayr Lubneniyyeh w into me7terken manaseb la inno into sheyfen 7alkon a3la min ghayrkon. 7ayawanat a7san min hek sha3eb. La inno bil ghabeh mne3ref inno el asad a3wa shi. Bas kamen bi hal ghabeh elli ismo Lubnan into mish a3wa. Lesh hal i7tikar w tamyeez el ta2ifey bi kezbet el ta3ayosh?
 
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Rafidi

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So Tol3o kel yalle bi tabblo rassna bi nabih berri w quotes about Karbala all day 3eychin bi Europe? Wel shi3a yalle metelna aal forum eklina mnel nabih 3eychin bi lebnen

lol.

Lesh ma fi minkon yalle bi tablo 3an Mar Charbel w elli betsammoohon mo3jizet 3ayshen bi dowal Islamiyyeh? W 7atta bi Iran zetha. Lesh Mar Charbel ma bi jebelkon kyes masareh 3a byootkon w bala jmilet el Islam?
 

My Moria Moon

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
هيهات من الذل
، إن عدتم عدنا
Are slogans you throw at the enemy not at friend country trying to help you from starving
هيهات من الذل is when you care about your people and you don't allow it to reach such situation
هيهات من الذل is when you stop the political class from robbing the Lebanese people resources, and not giving them a blind eye
هيهات من الذل is when you use all your religious and moral values to stop anyone who is stealing the Lebanese people
هيهات من الذل is when you care and work and struggle to give your people a better life
هيهات من الذل is when you look few hundred meters across the border and see the life thriving and you look inside your border and realize something MUST be fixed
هيهات من الذل is when you don't accept that the enemy is progressing at all levels and your people is regressing at all levels
هيهات من الذل is when your ally has the MOF for years and you pressure him to do the right work
هيهات من الذل is when you are in the gov for years and things moves forward not backwards
هيهات من الذل is when you promise reforms and corruption fighting and you mean it
finally هيهات من الذل is when you allow the lifeline to reach the lebanese people not by disrupting it under whatever pretext.

This situation is not due to the zionist enemy, this situation is the product of a corrupt political class that you have been complacent with for years.

Armchair admiral, let us spit the pebble. The dynamic duo of HA and Amal are very much satisfied with the decomposition of the Lebanese state. They couldn't care less. What Taef took from all and gave them was, according to their calculations, the most precious trophy of them all: an exclusive right and certificate to keep their arms.

It's an old grudge they have against the Lebanese stat; they consider it to be the equivalent and cause of their past miseries, and to some extent, rightfully. For these parties, the current state and its institutions are good for milking and to hide behind, every time Israel or some world power come after them. Everything else is superficial protocols they follow for the sake of keeping the status quo they comfortably bask in and to give the rest the illusion it's "running state business and politics as usual" they're engaged in. As long as they think the Iranian money is supporting their backs, feed their institutions and their militias with needed funds, they have no plan to care about famine knocking at the door, a nuclear blast, or the total collapse of the state.

Like everything else that is originally too small to grow too fat too quick, this their behavior and the powers that allow for it will ultimately bring them back to their original size which is everyone else's size, make no mistake about it. The Russians saved their butts in Syria for they needed Bachar. However, in a blink, they'd "fly him" and with him will every Iranian run hub "fly".

When that day comes, they'd come first pretending they are willing to bargain their weapons for some sort of mouthelatheh. And it's their right. However, by then, people in all our communities would have had enough of everyone else's bullshit. The Druze and Christians may have started serious thoughts and talks about some sort of federating system. They'd ask the sunnis if they're interested to which the later will happily oblige. Left will be the shia, with their useless arms and no one to buy nor bargain over with. Possible scenario, ma hek? At least everything should be expected on this little restless land, but hopefully not civil war. This fuc ked up destructive theater has got to come to an end, nonetheless. And from the look of it, it's not a happy end.
 

My Moria Moon

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Iyyem el 3ez ma Kent tfez!!! Mish shagheltak.

But you made a false claim. When last did Israehell kill any resistance fighter on Lebanese soil? Even the ones they targeted and killed in Syria, they were quick to absolve themselves and claim it is by "mistake".

There is no need for rush. Everything has its time and place. But since this resistance is a "chicken", why is Israehell still bothered? Why do you and your likes feel the need to neutralise it, get it out of the way or disarm it? Walaw...it is so ineffective. Why not enjoy your triumph?

Israehellists are having fun 3am yetda7ako 3leik. They're keeping you on the alert, but mostly keeping your country in your useless leaders, ideologies and arms grip. Thus, it is your economy that is collapsing not their, it is your people who tremble and seek shelters at the slightest rumbling in the sky, it is your leader who keeps running from hide place to hide place. Hay2tak ma fehmen shi min shi, not only you, thousands like you.. I gave you the simple recipe on how to cook Israhell in hell: make peace with it. Bass mannak 3am testaw3ib.

Actually Good luck to you more than anyone else, you'll be needing it the most the way you're being fooled and megalomania trapped.
 

Resign

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Orange Room Supporter
They sacked Diab to name SH or whomever he chooses...2am ba3ason 2al. :lol:

Exactly
they wanted SH all this time to form a government
now they're complaining that SH is 'forming the government'
they're not making any sense
 

Joe Lebanon

New Member
- killing innocent unarmed civilians by hundreds and even thousands = heroism
- regular act of war killing tens or hundreds of foreign soldiers = terrorism

Are you a graduate from Geagea academy of ethics?
You’re the ones that blew up civilians all over the world from Buenos Aires to Bulgaria.
 

Joe Lebanon

New Member
I asked you this before and you never managed a reply: shou natreen?
20 years ago you liberated your lands, as you call them, yet this poor Shebaa 1% is still occupied waiting for you to liberate it. Tab shou natreen, ma kello 1%? Ye3neh ma fi mahrab men ta7rir Shebaa if your plan is still to liberate Al Quds, your next ultimate goal, ma hek?

Ya khayye 3meloulkoun shi 7arakeh as only to show that your arms have some use, ba3d shwei bi saddo. Lak ya rajoul el 3alam in all the barber saloons and the bakeries of the world saro 3am yetda77ako 3alayna, they say we have a resistance bass ma 2ela 3azeh it seems. I personally sert ekhjal foot 2oss sha3re or buy a leaf of bread to avoid people's ridicules about our resistance.. They say Israeli planes keep sniping at you every now and then, they overfly your southern lands and cities - and the entire country from north to south for that matter- 3ala zaw2oun, yet mesh masmou3 7issa lal moukawama. Ya she77are, bahdaltouna bi hal moukamameh el moukhsiyyeh.. Lak 2oumo ba2a, show us some actions against Israhell, fi 3endkoun 3alam akid menkoun w fikoun 3am tet7ar2ass battal fiya tet7ammal the long wait to liberate Shebaa and Al Quds, respect those people's feelings and get on the motsic, the tank or the stomachs, za7fan za7fan.. Rija2an.

You know what? The longer you do nothing, the more holeh el 3alam will say: you're a bluff and a tool played by Israelis to keep your community, and the entire country, in a perpetual state of self destructive tahayyouj, till the day comes w betkouno staweito on low fire. When that happens you'd be eating your finger nails in regret for missing the opportunity to liberate Al Quds ( and Shebaa) when you still had those arms.
If HA is so concerned about Shebaa let Syria sign a paper that confirms that this land is indeed Lebanese and not Syrian as most maps show. Shebaa is the biggest lie for HA to keep their weapons. The noose is tightening on HA with all Arab countries signing peace deals with Israel. Iran is getting more and more isolated. Nchallah kheir ariban and Iran will be completely neutered!
 

Negative

Well-Known Member
Christians lost the civil war.
Sunnis and Druze lost 7 may 2008 mini-war.
The glorious victors are the Shia.
Ifhamoha ba2a.
 

SAVO

Member
from one side there is the axis: -israel- saudi -EAU -egypt
from the other side : Turkey- qatar - MB (muslim brotherhood ) .
The USA is not far from both axis .

with the 1st axis , iran is considered the main ennemy , so there is no place for any sort of discussion .

with the second axis , in case of agreement , the price will be rather high ( the head of bachar assad ,(which russian wouldnt permit) or to share power with syrian MB ( which assad dont accept till now as it is the main turkish request ) .

in case the axis 1 and 2 reach an accord , (with the USA intermediation and its not impossible ) the iranian axis will be isolated from both sides ..

the question is , how the game will evolve in lebanon ..?
Aoun and Berri career are almost over , due to age factor .. both are main allies to hezbollah .. how the game will evolve after ?

Junblat as well is KO .

watch out for bassil declaration , gaegae , and hariri manoeuvres ..

this inputs are the key to understand the situation of today .
considering also the visit of ismail haniye ... this is not to under estimate .. i wonder what kind of discussion and agreement he had with hizbollah and what point they reached ..?

the rest is details ...

دلالات زيارة اسماعيل هنيّة إلى لبنان
 
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SAVO

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فإن فرنسا يمكنها، بموافقة أميركية، استخدام هامشها العائد الى تاريخها الاستعماري في لبنان وسوريا. ظلت المساعي قائمة الى ما بعد خروج شيراك ومجيء نيكولا ساركوزي. كان الأخير يدعم فكرة الاستعانة بـ«الخبرة» السورية في معالجة ملفات لبنان. قصدت باريس دمشق مرات كثيرة في تلك الفترة، لكن الفرنسيين سمعوا يومها، وللمرة الاولى، مَن يقول لهم من قصر المهاجرين: اذهبوا الى لبنان وعالجوا الأمر هناك مع من بيدهم الامر. ومع كل إلحاح فرنسي، كان بشار الأسد يصير أكثر صراحة، حتى حسم لهم الأمر: اذهبوا الى حسن نصر الله!
عن تلك الفترة، روى أحد الخبثاء حكاية افتراضية لشرح مشكلة الفرنسيين مع معالجة التفاصيل اللبنانية. وقال فيها: جاء برنارد كوشنير الى بيروت ودمشق بصفته وزيراً للخارجية. وفي لحظة استمزاج آراء مساعدين، قال له السفير الفرنسي السابق في بيروت برنارد إيمييه: «عندما تذهب الى دمشق، اطلب مقابلة رستم غزالة، واسأله رأيه، لأنني أكاد أفقد عقلي، كما هي حال رفيقي جيفري فيلتمان في غياهب التعاويذ اللبنانية». وشدد إيمييه: «غزالة، ربما هو أكثر الخبراء الأجانب دراية بلبنان وأحواله وأحوال سياسييه». وفي رواية الخبيث نفسه أن كوشنير استأذن في ختام اجتماع بالرئيس الاسد من أجل عقد لقاء مع غزالة، وهذا ما حصل. فبادر «أبو عبدو» الضيف الفرنسي: كيف أموركم مع اللبنانيين؟ ردّ كوشنير: يا أخي، إنهم متعبون للغاية، كل ما يفعلونه هو وضع العصيّ في الدواليب لمنع تحرك عربة الحل. ضحك رستم، وقال: «له... له، لا

يسير الأمر على هذا النحو في لبنان، عليكم أن تضعوهم في الدواليب وتضربونهم بالعصيّ!»

source : الثلث المعطل والبيان الوزاري والمراسيم الاشتراعية: خلافات مكتومة تتجاوز توزيع الحقائب : "

the irony is that rustom ghazaleh died after he was beaten by bastons :D
 
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