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The government are adding 22 new taxes to fund the National Budget

Jo

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Before you read this, not that the source is Lebanon24 and usually i do not trust this site very much as they are known in spreading false news.

So, in order to fund the National Budget, the government is putting additional taxes that will mainly affect the private sector.

Here are a few mentioned in the article:
  1. Increasing TVA from 10% to 11%,
  2. Increasing the price of stamps on phone bills to 2500 LBP
  3. Increasing the price of stamps on judicial records from 2,000 LBP to 4,000 LBP
  4. Increasing the price of stamps on receipts from 100 LBP to 250 LBP
  5. Doubling the fees of public notaries
  6. Increasing taxes on cement production
  7. Modifying taxes on income and revenues from 15% to 17%
  8. Increasing taxes on alcohol
  9. Adding a 1.5% tax on construction licenses
  10. Enforcing taxes on passengers leaving the country, whether through land or sea or air
In fact, that last tax will also be proportional to your travel class. For anyone traveling more than 1250km to their final destination, a tax will be enforced as follows:
  • 75,000 LBP for every passenger in economy class, (This is not correct according to Ibrahim Kannaan)
  • 110,000 LBP for every passenger in business class,
  • 150,000 LBP for every passenger in first class,
  • 400,000 LBP for every passenger in a private plane.
Source: http://www.lebanon24.com/articles/1489248986806550100/ and Lebanon’s Government Is Adding 22 Taxes To Fund The National Budget, Politicians Are Keeping Their Salaries & Benefits Unchanged | A Separate State of Mind | A Blog by Elie Fares
 
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HannaTheCrusader

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very moderate and not much

they should increase the fuel and diesel taxes and also the tel bill tax

and increase the electricity rate
 

kmarthe

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Why not increasing taxes on Lebanese employers hiring Syrian and non-Lebanese refugees for example? That would push those refugees to think about going back home when their employment ceases and would encourage employers to hire Lebanese employees who would contribute to paying taxes in their turn.
 

nonsense

Legendary Member
Most of these taxes are very bad, particularly because they are regressive.

I find it very hard to believe this government would come up with such an idiotic/unfair proposal.

Regressive tax - Wikipedia
In terms of individual income and wealth, a regressive tax imposes a greater burden (relative to resources) on the poor than on the rich: there is an inverse relationship between the tax rate and the taxpayer's ability to pay, as measured by assets, consumption, or income. These taxes tend to reduce the tax burden of the people with a higher ability to pay, as they shift the relative burden increasingly to those with a lower ability to pay.
 

O Brother

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  1. Enforcing taxes on passengers leaving the country, whether through land or sea or air

I don't understand is it taxes collected by the airlines upon purchase of tickets? Don't they have such taxes already in Lebanon?

I hate traveling to Lebanon specially Beirut Airport is freaking disgusting makes me puke! Mostly I hate about it is that pink paper we have to do on entering or leaving the country and noe they want to increase travel expenses to that shity airport!
 

!Aoune32

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Why don't they look into the ports and see who is smuggling?
Why don't they go after corruption in state institutions?
Why don't they save money and not pay those who don't show up to work?
What a ridiculous tax farce. Tax on passengers 2al LOL
 

!Aoune32

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How about going after corruption first, prosecute those who put us in debt; take back some stolen money; bring some trust to the populace; than introduce the additional tax

why don't they give people 24 hours electricity? They will be more than happy to get rid of the generator and pay higher prices for electricity. this whole government is bullshit and it's people are not better.
 

JB81

Legendary Member
why don't they give people 24 hours electricity? They will be more than happy to get rid of the generator and pay higher prices for electricity. this whole government is bullshit and it's people are not better.

President Aoun brings some trust to the government. However, it isn't enough until we see something materialized. If not political prosecution of powerful corrupted politicians; at least some sort of guarantee that the additional revenue will be spent in a responsible way
 

JeanH

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Before you read this, not that the source is Lebanon24 and usually i do not trust this site very much as they are known in spreading false news.

So, in order to fund the National Budget, the government is putting additional taxes that will mainly affect the private sector.

Here are a few mentioned in the article:
  1. Increasing TVA from 10% to 11%,
  2. Increasing the price of stamps on phone bills to 2500 LBP
  3. Increasing the price of stamps on judicial records from 2,000 LBP to 4,000 LBP
  4. Increasing the price of stamps on receipts from 100 LBP to 250 LBP
  5. Doubling the fees of public notaries
  6. Increasing taxes on cement production
  7. Modifying taxes on income and revenues from 15% to 17%
  8. Increasing taxes on alcohol
  9. Adding a 1.5% tax on construction licenses
  10. Enforcing taxes on passengers leaving the country, whether through land or sea or air
In fact, that last tax will also be proportional to your travel class. For anyone traveling more than 1250km to their final destination, a tax will be enforced as follows:
  • 75,000 LBP for every passenger in economy class,
  • 110,000 LBP for every passenger in business class,
  • 150,000 LBP for every passenger in first class,
  • 400,000 LBP for every passenger in a private plane.
Source: http://www.lebanon24.com/articles/1489248986806550100/ and Lebanon’s Government Is Adding 22 Taxes To Fund The National Budget, Politicians Are Keeping Their Salaries & Benefits Unchanged | A Separate State of Mind | A Blog by Elie Fares
now explain to me how will this not affect middle and lower class??
 

Jo

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now explain to me how will this not affect middle and lower class??
It will affect them akid, especially the private sector.

Now with this new law, all company's expenses will rise by 1% for TVA and 2% taxes on income. Some companies are barely surviving and raising their expenses by this much on taxes will force them to lower them somewhere else, maybe they will downsize their employees, maybe they wont hire someone new etc...
 

JeanH

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Government employees will never say no to more money even if it means paying twice as much as the raise down the road, they care about the now, thats how their minds are set up, no wonder if you're washed up you go work in the public sector as a last resort, no wonder state institutions are a shit hole, they're gonna bring us down with them
 

!Aoune32

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The public sector since the end of the civil war has been in ruins. It even got more stuffed when the trio(Hariri, WJ and Berri) took the whole public sector hostage. We all know that they installed their pussies in the public departments. The christians on the other hand took over the private sector. 80% of the private sector is christians not because they want to be in the sector. It is due to no trust in the government and ofcourse no trust in the trio who were with the occupation.

Since 2005 it is getting better and grade 1 employees there is parity. It is time we clean this mess and no pay rise. They fix the public sector first and then those who deserve it and are doing their job get a pay rise. There needs to be reform. If it doesnt happen under PMA term it will never happen.
 

Jo

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Government employees will never say no to more money even if it means paying twice as much as the raise down the road, they care about the now, thats how their minds are set up, no wonder if you're washed up you go work in the public sector as a last resort, no wonder state institutions are a shit hole, they're gonna bring us down with them
The funny thing is that in my opinion, i dont think the government employees are being paid un fairly.

Lets see:

1. They work less than the employees of the private sector.
2. No one can fire them from their job, unless a drastic event happened.
3. Some of them (teachers) dont work all the summer and still get paid
4. All of them will get a good "to3wid"
5. Their health insurance doesnt stop when they are over 64. They can keep it with a salary
6. They get good discounts for schools/universities (up to 80%) even private ones
7. Some of them (Army, ISF, Security etc...) get free amounts of Petrol
8. Lower interest on loans

What do private companies employees get

1. They work usually more and do overtimes etc...
2. They will always live in fear of getting fired.
3. No school/university/petrol allowance
4. Shitty health insurance and it stops when they are 64
5. Shitty end of service "to3wid"
6. Usually most of them also invest in some sort of a retirement plan because its not available for them.

If they want to make things better in this country they should start with the private sector, at least provide a decent end of service retirement plan and health insurance, like the government employee.
 

JeanH

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and the thing is , when you jab at them they appeal to emotion, and emotion always beats logic :'you dont want them to get a raise ? why are you so insesitive', 'the army protects us they should always get more','there are families living off them'.....
 

HannaTheCrusader

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the only negative part of this whole tax , is we the christians will end up paying way more to support more muslims in the public sector and army

since the muslims always say, we are 25%. WE SHOULD ONLY PAY 25% OF THE INCREASE
 
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