The Iraq of Saddam Hussein

Manifesto

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So this is a basically an appreciation thread for Saddam?
Why don't you and your friend @Weezy start a thread to praise Hitler while you're at it?

Ness ma bteste7eh.
 

Weezy

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So this is a basically an appreciation thread for Saddam?
Why don't you and your friend @Weezy start a thread to praise Hitler while you're at it?

Ness ma bteste7eh.

Even Hitler can be admired for his charisma and the achievements he had at a certain period during the war. I mean blitzkrieg is a genius military technique that left the world bewildered
 

Achilles

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Even Hitler can be admired for his charisma and the achievements he had at a certain period during the war. I mean blitzkrieg is a genius military technique that left the world bewildered

Well technically he had nothing to do with the blitzkrieg or other Wehrmacht strategies. All these strategies came from his generals and army commanders not from him. Many books were written to show how a failure he was in term of war strategy. He was neither Saladin, nor Napoleon, Julius Ceaser or Alexander the Great. The German army could have win many lost battles and even the war itself if it was not for Hitler's poor decision makig and short-sight. It's not the main topic of the thread so not going further about this, but he was far from a military genius. durig the last years of WWII he delayed for months the use of the Messerschmidt 262, the only supersonic aircraft in the world back then, for no valid reasons except his mistrust in the Luftwaffe commanders. An early use of a supersonic aircraft could have changed the result of he war.
 

Savo

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So this is a basically an appreciation thread for Saddam?
Why don't you and your friend @Weezy start a thread to praise Hitler while you're at it?

Ness ma bteste7eh.
We are trying to deeply understand him no more no less.. if it seemed to u an.appreciation thread your wrong.
 

Savo

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its not easy to historically understand saddam hussein ..
its not a simple with or against him ..we are not a cheerleader here ...we re trying to understand politics
 

Weezy

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Well technically he had nothing to do with the blitzkrieg or other Wehrmacht strategies. All these strategies came from his generals and army commanders not from him. Many books were written to show how a failure he was in term of war strategy. He was neither Saladin, nor Napoleon, Julius Ceaser or Alexander the Great. The German army could have win many lost battles and even the war itself if it was not for Hitler's poor decision makig and short-sight. It's not the main topic of the thread so not going further about this, but he was far from a military genius. durig the last years of WWII he delayed for months the use of the Messerschmidt 262, the only supersonic aircraft in the world back then, for no valid reasons except his mistrust in the Luftwaffe commanders. An early use of a supersonic aircraft could have changed the result of he war.

You can’t blame him for not trusting the Luftwaffe after their failure in Dunkirk and in the Battle of Britain. But yea I agree he made some mistake that cost him the war, specially Stalingrad.

Still though he’s credit to removing Germany from its despair after WW1 and turning it into a super power that almost changed Europe we know today.
 

Savo

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Albaath , as an ideology in its both implmentation in syria and Iraq , eventhough it consider itself a socialist ideology (..) and had a sort of alliance with the socalist bloc ,.not because of its ideology but as a part of the post colonial third world countries ...
but it is more than obvious that in reality it have nothing to do with the socialism based on marxism ..

the main victims in both syria and iraq, lebanon and jordan were the communist to start with ..

Albaath is rather an ideological deformations , with lot of elements copied from the mussolini political fascism model , since from a class point of view , al Baath , like mussolini socialism , was allied with the bourgeois and industrialist class , in a form of corporatist economy ... and the collaboration that they had witht he socialist countries was mainly military and secret services know how .

while socialist marxist inspired systems both in its hard forms ( Marxist-leninist ) like in soviet union and eastern Bloc , north korea and cuba , and its soft form ( market socialism like in Jugoslavia , vietnam , china , and Czechoslovakia )never allies with any bourgeois but abolished all the social classes and socialised the entire economies and adopted socialism as a model of social , political and economical development.

Albaath is a deformed ideology and its a pseudi fascist one ,,its the main disgrace of those people and not because of israel ...
 
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