The Justice Thread [The April 16 Revolution]

NAFAR

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برسم فرقة الزقيفه، هذا هو قانون الكابيتول كنترول تبع ابراهيم كنعان
خليكم غاشيين وماشيين

Ibrahim can't do all of this without Basil approval.
It seems Basil is still dreaming of being next President....which he can't do it without the deep sate mafia support.
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Ibrahim can't do all of this without Basil approval.
It seems Basil is still dreaming of being next President....which he can't do it without the deep sate mafia support.
Are you serious or being sarcastic?
Until recently you were still FPM or Aounist, but planning to leave.
Hopefully the situation improves so Lebanese can stay home and among families, because trust me, it's no fun to be abroad.
 

TayyarBeino

Legendary Member

أكد المحامي رامي علّيق مؤسس "متحدون" ان تغريدات القاضية غادة عون مساء أمس أتت في سياق متابعتها للتحقيقات في شركة مكتّف "وللأسف وُضع تحت عنوان "عاجل" والناس فهمت أن هناك قراراً جديداً اتخذ بحقها وهذا الأمر عار من الصحة جملة وتفصيلاً".
وتابع:"إنني أدعو في إطار ما قالته القاضية عون الى الخروج من كل الاعتبارات النفسية والشخصية و"الأجوائية" والذهاب باتجاه الوقائع والأدلة والمعطيات لنحكم إن كانت هذه القاضية قد أصابت أو أخطأت".
وأضاف عليق:"اليوم هناك عمل جار على ملف وإن كانت فعلا النوايا صافية وليس هنالك من خوف مما ستكشفه غادة عون لما كانت حدثت كل هذه الضجة وكانت الملف سار بشكل طبيعي مع فريقين ممثلين، أي الجهة المدعية ووكيلها، والجهة المدعى عليها ووكيلها اللتين لهما الحق بالاطلاع على مجريات التحقيق وكل ما يجري، على أن تدلي هاتين الجهتين بدلوهما والحكم بعدها يكون للناس بحسب المعطيات. أما ما يُحكى عن سرية التحقيق فهو مرتبط باستكمال الاستحصال على الداتا وتحليلها أما بعد ذلك فلا يقبل أحد بالابقاء على السرية لا بل القاضية والداعمين لها مصرون على إعلان النتائج خاصة في هذه المرحلة حيث طغى الفساد بشكل غير مسبوق".

وقال عليق:"كيف نصف ما حدث مع الريّسة غادة عون؟ وسط تحقيقات مدعي عام بجلسة خبرة ثم بجريمة مشهودة متمادية ومتفاقمة ومستمرة، ما من قوة أو قانون في العالم يقبل بأن يكون ثمة من يحقق بهكذا ملف ويدخل طرف آخر على الخط، فهذا مسرح جريمة تتعاطى معه القاضية عون وأي دخول على الخط يؤدي الى تأخير التحقيق وزرع المعوقات في وجهه حتماً، وإن كان ثمة من إجراءات ستتخذ من هذا النوع تؤخذ بعد الانتهاء من العملية القضائية".
وأكد علّيق أنه كان يجب تمكين القاضية ودعمها بكل الوسائل لمصلحة القضاء والعدل والحق والحقيقة بعكس ما حدث، مشيراً الى أن ما يحصل يظهر نقطتين: أولا صغر وضاعة الذين وقفوا في وجه القاضية عون بأخلاقياتهم وسلوكياتهم، أما النقطة الثانية فهي أن هناك ما هو مخبّأ لأن كل العملية بدأت من عند وكيل الجهة المدعى عليها الزميل الكسندر نجار الذي قام باتصالاته التي أدت الى قانون غب الطلب للقاضي غسان عويدات... وهذا الأمر ليس مقبولا لا في الشكل ولا في المضمون، وأضاف علّيق عبر موقعنا:"هنا تكمن المهزلة وهنا تكمن الفضيحة، فلو كانت شركة مكتف قد قامت بما قامت به شركات أخرى لكنا انتهينا خلال ساعات ومن دون "شوشرة".
إن التمادي بهذه الأعمال من قبل وكلاء الجهة المدعى عليها ليس فقط غير ناشىء عن ممارسة المهنة بل هو جرم مدان لأنه يتخطى ممارسة المهنة الى الاشتراك الجرمي في جريمة مشهودة تسقط فيها حصاناتهم. لقد وضعوا أنفسهم وموكلهم بمكان لا يحسدون عليه وأكدوا الشكّ باليقين بوجود الصندوق الأسود وأهمية الداتا التي يخفونها وتأثيرها على كل حركة الأموال بين المصرف المركزي والمصارف والصيارفة. نقطة على السطر".
غريس مخايل ,

 

NAFAR

Legendary Member
Are you serious or being sarcastic?
Until recently you were still FPM or Aounist, but planning to leave.
Hopefully the situation improves so Lebanese can stay home and among families, because trust me, it's no fun to be abroad.
I am serious....Kan3an is doing whatever he can do to safeguard the Banks mafia interests.
Kn3an and Basil are in very good terms and Basil is ok with Kn3an behavior.
I was never FPM, but I supported them and voted for them for many many reasons which I can't explain here.
I still believe FPM base is mostly honest & patriotic but FPM couldn't reach its targets.
I don't blame FPM but actually I blame the Taef system and the 1920 Greater Lebanon borders.
As I see it, there is no hope at all in Lebanon for any reforms in this lifetime.
I took my decision not to vote for next elections.
I am actually abroad now and I am very pleased...I don't want even to visit Lebanon.... I am done with it.... let the warlords and banks mafia rule this doomed land for ever.... I don't care anymore.
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
No I think this is meant to have the deep state mafia support Kenaan as a plan B
if you have ever watched documentaries of the soviet era, many of those who were forced labor in the goolags in syberia, thought that they were there without the knowledge of Stalin, and he is not aware of their condition. These thoughts came from the fact that Stalin was portrayed as the beloved and tender leader to the soviet people.
This is the case of Bassil and Kanaan. Bassil is portrayed as the super reformist, and Kanaan does the dirty work, but amazingly he was never kicked out of FPM like others...
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I am serious....Kan3an is doing whatever he can do to safeguard the Banks mafia interests.
Kn3an and Basil are in very good terms and Basil is ok with Kn3an behavior.
I was never FPM, but I supported them and voted for them for many many reasons which I can't explain here.
I still believe FPM base is mostly honest & patriotic but FPM couldn't reach its targets.
I don't blame FPM but actually I blame the Taef system and the 1920 Greater Lebanon borders.
As I see it, there is no hope at all in Lebanon for any reforms in this lifetime.
I took my decision not to vote for next elections.
I am actually abroad now and I am very pleased...I don't want even to visit Lebanon.... I am done with it.... let the warlords and banks mafia rule this doomed land for ever.... I don't care anymore.
Well yes most of the base of any party is honest and genuinely believe in the high morals of their party.
Then there are those who are having profit from it, either directly or indirectly.
Good luck in your stay abroad.
Are you in Europe, France, USA or elsewhere?
Some of us are in France
when you are new abroad you will like it for sure, we all did I guess
but by the time homesickness will crawl at you especially if you still have family in Lebanon.
Anyway enjoy...
 

The_FPMer

Well-Known Member
if you have ever watched documentaries of the soviet era, many of those who were forced labor in the goolags in syberia, thought that they were there without the knowledge of Stalin, and he is not aware of their condition. These thoughts came from the fact that Stalin was portrayed as the beloved and tender leader to the soviet people.
This is the case of Bassil and Kanaan. Bassil is portrayed as the super reformist, and Kanaan does the dirty work, but amazingly he was never kicked out of FPM like others...

“Princes ought to leave affairs of reproach to the management of others, and keep those of grace in their own hands.” The Prince

In the book, Machiavelli describes how Cesare Borgia used Ramiro de Lorqua to do his dirty work, then sacrificed Ramiro to make himself look good.

“Keep your hands clean: You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency: Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds. Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as scapegoats and cat’s-paws to disguise your involvement.” 48 Laws of Power
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
“Princes ought to leave affairs of reproach to the management of others, and keep those of grace in their own hands.” The Prince

In the book, Machiavelli describes how Cesare Borgia used Ramiro de Lorqua to do his dirty work, then sacrificed Ramiro to make himself look good.

“Keep your hands clean: You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency: Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds. Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as scapegoats and cat’s-paws to disguise your involvement.” 48 Laws of Power
Wonderful quotation.
Actually I learned in school about Machiavelli and his book "The Prince" but never read it.
 

Walidos

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
I am serious....Kan3an is doing whatever he can do to safeguard the Banks mafia interests.
Kn3an and Basil are in very good terms and Basil is ok with Kn3an behavior.
I was never FPM, but I supported them and voted for them for many many reasons which I can't explain here.
I still believe FPM base is mostly honest & patriotic but FPM couldn't reach its targets.
I don't blame FPM but actually I blame the Taef system and the 1920 Greater Lebanon borders.
As I see it, there is no hope at all in Lebanon for any reforms in this lifetime.
I took my decision not to vote for next elections.
I am actually abroad now and I am very pleased...I don't want even to visit Lebanon.... I am done with it.... let the warlords and banks mafia rule this doomed land for ever.... I don't care anymore.
Kanaan has been quite disappointing in the past months...!
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
this is a pdf from LeMonde newspaper saying the wealth of Riad Salamé is under investigation by the French justice
 

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TayyarBeino

Legendary Member
this is a pdf from LeMonde newspaper saying the wealth of Riad Salamé is under investigation by the French justice
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سلامة يؤكد أن شراء العقارات في فرنسا تم قبل توليه منصب حاكم مصرف لبنان

الاثنين ٣ أيار ٢٠٢١ 12:29سياسة


نقلت وكالة "رويترز" عن حاكم مصرف لبنان رياض سلامة تأكيده أن "شراء العقارات في فرنسا تم قبل توليه منصب حاكم مصرف لبنان"، لافتاً إلى أنه "أعلن في عدة مناسبات سابقة عن مصدر ثروته، وأبرز مستندات تثبت أن ثروته كانت تعادل 23 مليون دولار في العام 1993، قبل تعيينه".

وفي وقت سابق نقلت "رويترز" عن مديرة برنامج التدفقات المالية غير المشروعة في منظمة "شيربا"، لورا روسو، أن هناك "شكوى قانونية مقدمة في فرنسا بشأن فساد مشتبه به في لبنان، تستهدف حاكم المصرف المركزي رياض سلامة وشقيقه وشريك له".
ولفتت روسو إلى ان "الشكوى التي تم تقديمها يوم الجمعة تغطي أصولا عقارية قيمتها ملايين اليورو في فرنسا".

 

Mrsrx

Not an expert!
Staff member
“Princes ought to leave affairs of reproach to the management of others, and keep those of grace in their own hands.” The Prince

In the book, Machiavelli describes how Cesare Borgia used Ramiro de Lorqua to do his dirty work, then sacrificed Ramiro to make himself look good.

“Keep your hands clean: You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency: Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds. Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as scapegoats and cat’s-paws to disguise your involvement.” 48 Laws of Power
I think this applies to all "el saff el awwal" they never get their hands dirty and that includes the 2016 presidential elections.
 

JustLeb

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
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سلامة يؤكد أن شراء العقارات في فرنسا تم قبل توليه منصب حاكم مصرف لبنان

الاثنين ٣ أيار ٢٠٢١ 12:29سياسة


نقلت وكالة "رويترز" عن حاكم مصرف لبنان رياض سلامة تأكيده أن "شراء العقارات في فرنسا تم قبل توليه منصب حاكم مصرف لبنان"، لافتاً إلى أنه "أعلن في عدة مناسبات سابقة عن مصدر ثروته، وأبرز مستندات تثبت أن ثروته كانت تعادل 23 مليون دولار في العام 1993، قبل تعيينه".

وفي وقت سابق نقلت "رويترز" عن مديرة برنامج التدفقات المالية غير المشروعة في منظمة "شيربا"، لورا روسو، أن هناك "شكوى قانونية مقدمة في فرنسا بشأن فساد مشتبه به في لبنان، تستهدف حاكم المصرف المركزي رياض سلامة وشقيقه وشريك له".
ولفتت روسو إلى ان "الشكوى التي تم تقديمها يوم الجمعة تغطي أصولا عقارية قيمتها ملايين اليورو في فرنسا".

I have beaten you this time right :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
probably the 1st time in 10 years ??!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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