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The left and muslim conspiring to take cortoba historical cathedral from the church

Cortoba Cathedral should

  • Remain a Church

    Votes: 11 73.3%
  • Be also a mosque

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Be under civil control guided by the left

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • Total voters
    15

JB81

Legendary Member
Of course I did, that's why I wrote that it has nothing to do with Christianity. why are you even making a religious poll about it.
The architecture of Cortoba has nothing to do with christianity nor the church. you want to claim everything as "belonging to the
church"? shu hal maskhara.

3ayneh, in the beginning, they were all pagans then came Moses, part of them followed, others remained pagans, then came Jesus, part of them followed others remained pagans, then came Mohammad, part of them followed him and others remained, christians, jews or pagans. Yes part of the jews became christians and then part of the christians became Muslims. Does that mean, you should expel these people from their lands because your crusaders friends have a retarded ideology of conquering the world, killing and displacing people as they see fit ?

Muslims invaded Spain and where seen as occupiers by the Spaniards. Are you saying that the French were legal rulers of Algeria?
Byeswekon byeswa ghayrkon
 

Le منشار

New Member
Exactly. There's no such thing as 'Islamic' architecture. What people try to portray as Islamic architecture is nothing more than copycats of all the civilizations they occupied.
not exactly. rather a mix of architecture and even later on innovation that even European engineers later copied when building their churches. Nations build on the experience and knowledge of previous nations. it has always been like that during the course of time. slowly unveiling what we call "the laws of the universe" or modernly called "physics/math"
 

JB81

Legendary Member
not exactly. rather a mix of architecture and even later on innovation that even European engineers later copied when building their churches. Nations build on the experience and knowledge of previous nations. it has always been like that during the course of time. slowly unveiling what we call "the laws of the universe" or modernly called "physics/math"

The Renaissance Churches were mostly influenced by the Roman Greek architect
 

Le منشار

New Member
Muslims invaded Spain and where seen as occupiers by the Spaniards. Are you saying that the French were legal rulers of Algeria?
Byeswekon byeswa ghayrkon
Muslims did not invade to destroy. Destroying an Army on the battlefield is something and destroying entire cities, mass murder of civilians is totally a different thing.
the Romans for example built roads that led back to Rome. the Americans and their Crusader ancestors conquered not to build roads but to destroy nations and steal their resources. We still have living examples as we speak. E.g. Afghanistan, Iraq and now the rest of the Arab world.
 

JB81

Legendary Member
Muslims did not invade to destroy. Destroying an Army on the battlefield is something and destroying entire cities, mass murder of civilians is totally a different thing.
the Romans for example built roads that led back to Rome. the Americans and their Crusader ancestors conquered not to build roads but to destroy nations and steal their resources. We still have living examples as we speak. E.g. Afghanistan, Iraq and now the rest of the Arab world.

Yeah, the Muslims conquered to build a mosque and everyone lives a happy life after... Not because of reaping wealth of people
 

Le منشار

New Member
The Renaissance Churches were mostly influenced by the Roman Greek architect
the "Dome shape" was taken from Mosques !! Crusaders have a tendency to deny everything Muslims innovated. Even the "0" is praised on youtube as an indian invention which is not true
 

JB81

Legendary Member
the "Dome shape" was taken from Mosques !! Crusaders have a tendency to deny everything Muslims innovated. Even the "0" is praised on youtube as an indian invention which is not true

The Dome shape is Christian... The Orthodox Churches were beautifully build with a Dome, when Mohammed was still living in a tent
 

Le منشار

New Member
Yeah, the Muslims conquered to build a mosque and everyone lives a happy life after... Not because of reaping wealth of people
for example ?!
That's why the Muslim empire is the largest empire during the course of human history that even Rome nor Alexander's empire were able to stretch to its extent.
 

JB81

Legendary Member
for example ?!
That's why the Muslim empire is the largest empire during the course of history that even Rome nor Alexander's empire were able to stretch to its extent.

We know that it was the British Empire is called the Empire that the sun never sets...
Should I mention the Mongols? What the Mongols did, their Empire stretched from China to Hungary, but they destroyed everything in their way... Happy Berber, Syriac and Coptic day
 

GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
the immense arab heritage in spain is particularly influenced by the architectural style that originated in Mecca, the birth place of islam and the pulsating heart of the arabian peninsula.




Arabs built skyscrapers long before New York came into existence.
This is Shibam in Yemen. It's considered the oldest skyscraper-city in the world and nicknamed "Manhattan of the desert".
Arabs originated from Yemen not from Mecca.

Shibam_Wadi_Hadhramaut_Yemen.jpg
 

Le منشار

New Member
Yes... That's why all the fortified castles that are standing worldwide are all crusaders... because they didn't know how to build...
Crusaders came much later in history after the appearance of Islam. True crusaders built castles to reflect their lust for conquer and domination. God didn't ask Muslims to built castles. Only leaders who thought of themselves as Kings built castles in the history of Islam. Ironically, none were built in the Arabian peninsula until Al Saud took power
 

JB81

Legendary Member
Crusaders came much later in history after the appearance of Islam. True crusaders built castles to reflect their lust for conquer and domination. God didn't ask Muslims to built castles. Only leaders who thought of themselves as Kings built castles in the history of Islam. Ironically, none were built in the Arabian peninsula until Al Saud took power

Yes, Islam means peace. It's just that it's founder and all his successors killed each other for lust of power and domination... Mouawiya killed Ali because Ali was heretic, it has nothing to do with lust of power. and the Abbasid, the Fatimid, the Mamluks, the Turks were all peace loving people.

It's just the Christians who are bad
 

Ice Tea

Active Member
Muslims did not invade to destroy. Destroying an Army on the battlefield is something and destroying entire cities, mass murder of civilians is totally a different thing.
the Romans for example built roads that led back to Rome. the Americans and their Crusader ancestors conquered not to build roads but to destroy nations and steal their resources. We still have living examples as we speak. E.g. Afghanistan, Iraq and now the rest of the Arab world.


No? The whole MENA region used to be very diverse with a variety of cultures, languages and religions. Arabs Muslims destroyed and wiped out all those civilizations and replaced with their single backwardness. That's called genocide.

Why didn't you mention Yemen? It's their Arab Muslim brothers who are bombing them as we speak. At least Americans and Europeans didn't use religion to justify their wars. Don't you understand that ALL, literally all conflicts in the Middle East are rooted in Islam?
 

GrumpForTrump

Legendary Member
Orange Room Supporter
Petra, another Arab engineering feat that rivals the grandeur of Greece and Rome.

Rather than construct their buildings, Nabateans carved them out of sandatone canyons.

The real engineering ingenuity of the Nabateans, though, can be realized from their intelligent design of Petra's hydrology system.
Modern day hydraulic engineers have discovered that the Nabateans have managed to effectively transport water five miles from the source to Petra by carving out pipe ridges along the mountains with a four-degree slope. The long-haul pipelines were perfectly engineered to provide a constant supply of water to the busy towns of the lost city.

The Amazing Engineering Feats of the Lost City of Petra
 

Ice Tea

Active Member
Petra, another Arab engineering feat that rivals the grandeur of Greece and Rome.

Rather than construct their buildings, Nabateans carved them out of sandatone canyons.

The real engineering ingenuity of the Nabateans, though, can be realized from their intelligent design of Petra's hydrology system.
Modern day hydraulic engineers have discovered that the Nabateans have managed to effectively transport water five miles from the source to Petra by carving out pipe ridges along the mountains with a four-degree slope. The long-haul pipelines were perfectly engineered to provide a constant supply of water to the busy towns of the lost city.

The Amazing Engineering Feats of the Lost City of Petra

They just copied Rome. Plus they had abandoned their Arabic origins and adopted Aramaic culture.
 

JB81

Legendary Member
Spain was more multicultural under Islamic rule. After the Reconquista, Catholics forced Muslims and Jews to convert to Christianity under the threat of death.

Time to brush up on your history.

Spain was very multicultural; they had lands in Naples, the Netherlands, and the New World. Lots of different types of people
 

Ice Tea

Active Member
Even pre-Islamic Arabia was associated with backwardness. Islam just made them even more backwards. But for sure they would be doing better today if it was not for it.
 

Le منشار

New Member
Yes, Islam means peace. It's just that it's founder and all his successors killed each other for lust of power and domination... Mouawiya killed Ali because Ali was heretic, it has nothing to do with lust of power. and the Abbasid, the Fatimid, the Mamluks, the Turks were all peace loving people.
It's just the Christians who are bad
Mouawiya planned the death of Omar, Othman and Ali. Yes and solely for the lust of power. After that, he gave back more influence for Jews and Christians.
he called himself "King" and built a castle. He was known for his negotiation skills, something that the previous Caliphs didn't attempt to do. As for the rest they were influenced in their rule by European kings and emperors. Of course they used Islam (the factor of Ji-had) to achieve their own personal goals. But of course they forgot that God sees all. Those who became Tyrants lost their rule at the hands of others.
However the land was conquered by Muja-hideen and these were the ones who spread the Quran. Sometimes, if a person takes advantage of your good will to later on push his own personal endeavors, this does not concern you in anyway.
The essence of Muslims making Ji-had is to spread the word of God and not to steal the resources of a country and taking it back to their own country.
 
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