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is this supposed to be a self criticism ?As a person that strongly believes in free speech and freedom of having whichever belief a person might have, I respect the right of every individual or group to involve themselves in what they believe to be true and give them moral comfort. However, that respect and freedom given to such group should be reciprocal, as in this said group should have mutual respect and tolerate the freedom of others as well.
I don’t want to discuss Abrahamic religions in their original forms as they were ‘revealed’ thousands of years ago, as that doesn’t concern me and is not related to this topic.
What I would like to point out in this discussion is the religious forms as they are applied in our current times.
Fortunately, one of the mainstream religions (Christianity) and almost all Christian communities are more or less tolerant and they’re not violently setting people on fire or murdering anyone in the name of their religion. Individual wackos and small violent groups that may exist does not apply to the overwhelming majority of Christians who successfully interpreted their religion in a peaceful manner.
Point is, the mainstream interpretation of their religion is peaceful.
Although their religious views on certain topics might be offensive, for example on homosexuality, it is within their right to believe that homosexual behavior is wrong as long as it is only an opinion.
The unfortunate part comes within the second mainstream Abrahamic religion, Islam.
The horrendous side of Islam that should alarm everyone, even who they call themselves moderate muslims, is that Islam is not a passive religion. It is as active as it can get.
In other words, even in its most moderate mainstream interpretations it is not a religion for self. It is a religion that actively seeks imposing its ideas on others, even by means of physical and/or psychological abuse or threats, and even financial abuse when they’re in power (by means of Jizya).
Below some quotations of some verses (Surat AlTawbah) that indicates what was previously mentioned:
فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُواْ لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ الصَّلاةَ وَآتَوُاْ الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلاَ يَقْرَبُواْ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَذَا وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ إِن شَاء إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ
قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ
These are just a tiny example out of hundreds of verses with similar context regarding apostates, infidels, homosexuals… hence the previous warning to even what they call themselves moderate muslims, they’re after you as well once they have the power to execute their religion.
Few days ago I’ve had a discussion with a muslim lady (Hijabi) who portrayed herself as moderate and that she isn’t into what extremist clergymen say, typical statement until you corner them into tricky questions (Yes, I’ve had more or less the same conversation with plenty of those ‘moderate’ muslims).
Once the discussion reached the topics of 7oudoud (7ad Al Riddah for example) and homosexuals, she claimed that these punishments would only occur if an Islamic state is in control. However, she didn’t mind that apostates get killed and homosexuals get thrown off rooftops, even if such person is a relative. So much for being a ‘moderate’.
Unfortunately, that is the mainstream Islamic interpretation on these topics. They have no tolerance of others choices and lives, and that is to many the true horror of islam and the fear of these people attainment of power, which they actively seek to obtain even in lands where they’re still a minority.
Therefore, until these Islamic communities reform their religion into a truly peaceful set of ideas, it is our human responsibility to make sure these people never reach power.
It is our human responsibility to combat them and their ideas, it is a battle forced upon us in this part of the world specifically.
The least anyone can do, which I actively do, is engage with your muslim entourage and friends with these discussions. A lot of them don’t even know their religion that well, and from their position of ignorance they’re unconsciously helping those real muslims who will doom us if they reach power.
The more muslims realize the horrors of their religion, the easier it will be for them to dump it or reform it.
Now, before it is too late.
Or you are simply a Sunni mourtad ???