the progression of islam went from peaceful to violent and intolerant as the prophet islam grew stronger. and this is acknowledged by all the scholars around the globe. so it becomes very normal that you will find peaceful verses in the quran, but they have unfortunately been abrogated by the violent ones that followed.
Again I advice you like I did with @Indie go read about when Christians were politically weak and when they gained political powers and started waging wars all over the world!
In this world the weak are not recognised by those with power..
and what is happening today to the Muslims world and other nations mostly in south will remind you of this!
the reality of the matter is that everything is ripe for the choosing. you can choose to rage a war and find a justification in the quran, the hadith and the sira, and you can choose to end a war and find a justification in the same books. the quran is the book that enables and fuels all sorts of contradictions within the spirit of man. in reality it is a book of strategic warfare. it resonates with some key features in muhamad's life, and in the human psyche in general; when you are weak you are subconsciously peaceful, and when you are strong, you become a tyrant without realizing it.
The reality is that the bible was used in the same way by the Church .. most religious books were used out of context for political reasons through out history until this very day the fun part that you want to point finger at others while you want to neglect the bloody history of your own Church and how they justified violence and wars against people who were not even waging wars on Christians!
there is no doubt that there is a very good side to islam, the problem however is that when it is observed in its totality not only does islam fail to produce a rather coherent message, but it rather constitutes a real threat to whoever does not blindly subscribe to your perspective.
I could say the same thing about Christianity, and there are many aspect of Christianity that I love and respect however I do recognize the sheep in wolf's clothing within the Church.
And I never subscribed blindly to Islam.. I subscribed to it with conviction and after many years of rebelling and questioning it!
The message of Islam is the only thing that make sense for me and for thousands of people maybe it constitute a real threat for your faith because Islam is much more logical and coherent for the people in their quests for the truth!
and yet all the pagan tribes that invaded rome and destroyed it became Christians all the way to the furthest corners of europe. and what do you call the ridda in islam? is this not a transgression against the very nature of truth? what truth are you safeguarding in pointing a knife to someone's throat and constantly threatening to slit their throats if they dare to leave?
so on a side note, what if the devil has already deceived you? what is your process to know what is of the devil and what is of God? how exactly would you know? because quite frankly, you need to look back into that which is arrogantly posing as your sirat el moustaqim.. something to think about.
So did many pagan tribes who waged wars on the Muslims adding to it Islam spreading through trade among other means.
And we don't shame the Islamic conquests unlike Christians who rarely like to shed light on how their religion spread all over the world.
Islam spread by many different means and when Islam was in power they showed way more tolerance comparing to when Christians were in power. Now in our modern times Christianity did become more tolerant with secularism taking over but at what expense? And what are the limits?
Like allowing same sex marriage is no the way! They are even trying to enforce it on Islam like they are doing on Christianity.
But again many true Christians will eventually rebel against secularism at least to some extent in my view because if things keeps going in this same direction then there wont be Christianity at all!
As for apostasy through out the history of the Muslim world it wasn't really applied..
Like in the time of Imamf Abu Hanifa he would debate many Atheists or those who denied any religion or prophethood.
Or take the famous poete Al Maari he was atheist and wrote many things against Islam and Shariah yet he died at very old age in his own home!
And again you speak like apostasy in Christianity was totally accepted and tolerated when in fact there was a long history of prosecution against it!
i wonder what world you live in my dear friend. of all the people around the globe, the islamic youth are the ones suffering the most inadequacies, no matter which way you turn.
This suffering is needed and good for our spiritual strengthening..
as we have lost our ways and we are in a quest to find what was lost!
As Muslims we must accept the will of god almighty and all the sufferings exist for the good reason.
When Banu Israel felt at their lowest and were suffering in Egypt many of them became tyrants and the transgressor many of them enjoyed living under pharaoh and in so many ways we have many Qarun alike in the Muslim world today... Many in the Saudi family fits in well with the story of Qarun and traitorhood..
Maybe you believe that suffering is a curse but as Muslims we can not believe that!
It is just part of the long journey!
my only problem is that i give humanity too much credit. do you really not realize what is wrong with your statement? we fight to safeguard a better life for ourselves and our loved ones, not to receive honors in death nor to receive castles in heaven.
The problem with your beliefs as Dark Angel (I don't want to say as Christian) is that you live for this world and not for the eternal life!
This world is not meant to be pleasant all the time! Tribulations will always exist in this world!
This world is life and death, peace and war, happiness and sorrow and so on!
la2 bass smallah, very convincing. we didn't realize the similarities run that deep. man sell these jokes to the swedes or to someone who does not understand arabic and does not know of the history between the sunnis and the majous. oops i mean the shiaas.
The similarities are more than you like them to be
You somehow love to be the devil in what differentiate and bring irrelevant stuff.. like your masters who armament extremists on both sides!
And yet again you speak like Christians are free from all this!
Christians have mass slaughtered each other like no other.. comparing to the war Christians waged against each others we would be amateurs!
the religion of the people coming up from the south has nothing to do with the reason why they should not be allowed into the united states. i am Catholic and i denounce mass migration.
I wasn't talking about whether they should be allowed or not! This is not the point!
Look how they are being treated.. look how they separate families and god knows what they are actually doing with these kids!
Do you honestly believe if these people where white with blue eyes they would treat them in the same way?
Many Evangelical Christians are known to be very racist and seriously hateful.
Also they are not big fans of the Catholic Church directly as they see them as a satanist cult.
And speaking about love and peace and all the biggest nations who mass produce mass killing weapons are both Christian nations!
Who both seems to forcibly divide the world into their camps and most wars if not all war are using their weapons!!!
And we speak about all this in time of peace what would happen in time of war? Allah yestourrr!
Yes peace.. we all gonna need it and you need more than anyone so PEACE out!