Traveling to live and work in france

Iron Maiden

Iron Maiden

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  1. I'm still a junior here at NDU. I have about 40 credits left (I'll be able to finish before the summer of 2019). I'm not admitted into any masters degree yet. and Tbh my first priority is finding a job.
  2. Any area that is not expensive to live at. I won't be going to a place like PARIS for example, I heard it's much more expensive than other cities. I am considering Lille because my friends live there ( i might be sharing a house with them). One of my friends recommended Toulouse, but I still haven't done any research.
  3. student accommodation is something you intrigued me with. I'm going to start doing research about it. what is religious accommodation though?
  4. these questions are for 2019-2020. a year at least from now
  5. I am working hard towards that!! I am trying to excel at every single course and befriend all doctors just for that matter. I really need to make this whole 'going to France to work and study' thing work.
Lille is a shithole.. stay clear, paris, bordeaux or montpelier, even marseille if u're feeling adventurous.

But fir work prospects andveducation wuality paris all the way
 
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    Venomous Hummingbird

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    wow never thought the forums were that active, thanks for all the replies!!
    You're on a Aounist forum, they may look alive on the outside, but intellectually they're dead. Anyway, try to get important certifications before trying to get a job. Download the training from the internet and only pay for the price of the exam.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    You're on a Aounist forum, they may look alive on the outside, but intellectually they're dead. Anyway, try to get important certifications before trying to get a job. Download the training from the internet and only pay for the price of the exam.
    @Jo can we have a butthurt counter to track how much butthurt the brain dead aounists are inflicting on our fellow forumer?
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    You are complicating things too much :) you are French so you have zero limitations. You just need to plan and try.

    You need to focus on masters first because of the deadlines dates and process. Regardless whether your priority is work. Also apply early to every scholarship under the sun, go the French embassy and ask them for resources and support.

    You still have a long time to graduate, so unless you are exceptional, and have great connections you won't be getting a job that early ahead of graduation and from a distance. You need to get there for your masters, start studying and in parallel look for work.

    You will have an undergrad in computer science so you should look for a job in that field. You need to apply to universities in major cities where you know there are large and medium size tech companies, for sure the Paris area, but there may be other centers.

    If you have friends or family in France use their address even before going and start emailing resumes 6 months ahead of graduation, as a French citizen, studying abroad in Lebanon, returning to France upon graduation.

    Good luck! It's not that hard. You have it easy.
     
    JustLeb

    JustLeb

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    I am a 20 year old NDU NLC student (computer science, 3rd year). I graduate before summer of 2019 (less than a year from now).
    I have maintained a gpa of 3.9, and have a lot of experience through multiple internships at good companies.

    I am planning on going to France to study there (masters degree) AND work. Work is more important since i need a source of income.
    When i say work, i mean work in the computer science field, and not in some random mcdonalds.

    Now here's the catch: I'm a french citizen. I have the nationality from my father.

    I would like to know what are the benefits of the nationality, like, what sets me apart from another lebanese student going to france to work/study.
    so i'll just list my questions:
    1. How beneficial is my French ID for studying, working and living in france
    2. what sets me apart from a normal lebanese student trying to study/work in france
    3. How good is france really? like how good is it concerning computer science and all...
    4. what is the necessary paperwork and accolades to work/study/live in france? do i need to do some sort of french test etc...
    As you can tell i am pretty naive lol, hence why i resorted to the forum. Also, if i'm posting in the wrong section i apologize. I'm new here.
    Thank you for your time.
    I didn't study in France so I can't help you in this.
    As for the french citizenship, are you kidding dude ?
    that means you put your ass in the plane and come to Paris at any time you want...
    you apply as everyone for masters (I can't help here)
    but you don't need any administration process to work, no need to stand in line to apply for work permit
    you can apply to any company without a problem because you won't bother them to help you with the papers
    However do you know french ?
     
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    HenryFa

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    These are some great replies. Thank you everyone for your advice.

    You are complicating things too much :) you are French so you have zero limitations. You just need to plan and try.

    You need to focus on masters first because of the deadlines dates and process. Regardless whether your priority is work. Also apply early to every scholarship under the sun, go the French embassy and ask them for resources and support.

    You still have a long time to graduate, so unless you are exceptional, and have great connections you won't be getting a job that early ahead of graduation and from a distance. You need to get there for your masters, start studying and in parallel look for work.

    You will have an undergrad in computer science so you should look for a job in that field. You need to apply to universities in major cities where you know there are large and medium size tech companies, for sure the Paris area, but there may be other centers.

    If you have friends or family in France use their address even before going and start emailing resumes 6 months ahead of graduation, as a French citizen, studying abroad in Lebanon, returning to France upon graduation.

    Good luck! It's not that hard. You have it easy.
    This is such a great reply, thank you for your advice. I'm going to do exactly as you said.
     
    L'arbalette

    L'arbalette

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    I didn't study in France so I can't help you in this.
    As for the french citizenship, are you kidding dude ?
    that means you put your ass in the plane and come to Paris at any time you want...
    you apply as everyone for masters (I can't help here)
    but you don't need any administration process to work, no need to stand in line to apply for work permit
    you can apply to any company without a problem because you won't bother them to help you with the papers
    However do you know french ?
    Sure but
    1) He still needs a place to sleep, money to eat, knowledge of where to go to, etc.
    2) My understanding of the tone of his questions (and sorry if I interpreted this wrongly) is whether being French gives him a "wasta" like advantage.
    In which case, by and large it is a no.

    Being French just makes sure he has the right to access things. But anyone else who would have the same "access" rights (i.e. legal resident) will be comparable. It will also depends on how "French" you are: Blue eyes, blond, called Dupond and speak with a Parisian accent is not the same as being bearded, slightly "basane", called "Khalil" or "Jihad" and speak French like a "3akkare" (Full disclosure, I'm from 3akkar)...
    Regardless of whether you have a French passport or not
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    Sure but
    1) He still needs a place to sleep, money to eat, knowledge of where to go to, etc.
    2) My understanding of the tone of his questions (and sorry if I interpreted this wrongly) is whether being French gives him a "wasta" like advantage.
    In which case, by and large it is a no.

    Being French just makes sure he has the right to access things. But anyone else who would have the same "access" rights (i.e. legal resident) will be comparable. It will also depends on how "French" you are: Blue eyes, blond, called Dupond and speak with a Parisian accent is not the same as being bearded, slightly "basane", called "Khalil" or "Jihad" and speak French like a "3akkare" (Full disclosure, I'm from 3akkar)...
    Regardless of whether you have a French passport or not
    Sure butnot having to go through all the paperwork and wasting 3-4 hours at the prefecture to get residency papers every year is a gift in all the sense oif the word.
    Also not having time limitaion on how many hours he is allowed to work helps.
    Whwn hes gonna send hos dossier to rent an appartment it will help him too.
    He can also apply for some other scholarships that a lebanese cannot get.

    Also good save at the end on the akkare accent ;)
     
    L'arbalette

    L'arbalette

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    Also good save at the end on the akkare accent ;)
    When I took my wife there the first time she came to Lebanon, she thought I was kidnapping her!!

    I have fond memories of trying to take chanklish with me back to France only to have the Amn amm folks in AIB call me out with a "Ahlan be Akkar"...
     
    manifesto

    manifesto

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    An arab single hairy guy is at the bottom of the feeding chain when it comes to housing prispects sadly.

    @HenryFa i recommend you find a colloc and live with other people, its cheaoer and u can start making friends
    The French can be pretty hairy, too. (Speaking from experience).
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    Sure but
    1) He still needs a place to sleep, money to eat, knowledge of where to go to, etc.
    2) My understanding of the tone of his questions (and sorry if I interpreted this wrongly) is whether being French gives him a "wasta" like advantage.
    In which case, by and large it is a no.

    Being French just makes sure he has the right to access things. But anyone else who would have the same "access" rights (i.e. legal resident) will be comparable. It will also depends on how "French" you are: Blue eyes, blond, called Dupond and speak with a Parisian accent is not the same as being bearded, slightly "basane", called "Khalil" or "Jihad" and speak French like a "3akkare" (Full disclosure, I'm from 3akkar)...
    Regardless of whether you have a French passport or not
    Being French does give him an advantage. By and large the answer is a yes.
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    The housing thing is objectively true, but on the ground its not.

    Racial bias is a thing, and being french can help a lot.

    An arab single hairy guy is at the bottom of the feeding chain when it comes to housing prispects sadly.

    @HenryFa i recommend you find a colloc and live with other people, its cheaoer and u can start making friends
    You forgot to tell him to invest in some shaving cream :)
    There is racism in Europe for sure, I prefer the US much more on that front, but the guy is French :)

    Come to think of it, if it is work he is seeking, he should apply for a master's degree in the US, get a visa and come to the US and look for work in the US after his master's degree. That's what I'd do. But that requires more money invested upfront that he may not have.

    The tech job market in France sucks
     
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    JustLeb

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    You forgot to tell him to invest in some shaving cream :)
    There is racism in Europe for sure, I prefer the US much more on that front, but the guy is French :)
    I have been living in France for long time, I have never felt racism against me or my family
    However Parisian are not very friendly, and not very open, but still I have few good friends...
    Anyway I am not very sociable neither, I work a lot so I don't have time to socialise, this forum gives me some break when I feel tired.
    So the attitude of the Parisian does not bother me, I don't look to party every weekend.
     
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    joseph_lubnan

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    I have been living in France for long time, I have never felt racism against me or my family
    However Parisian are not very friendly, and not very open, but still I have few good friends...
    Anyway I am not very sociable neither, I work a lot so I don't have time to socialise, this forum gives me some break when I feel tired.
    So the attitude of the Parisian does not bother me, I don't look to party every weekend.
    I've never experienced racism in France personally but I've seen it more than I've seen it in the US, but mine isn't a very accurate opinion on this as I don't have enough experience living in France, just visiting and knowing many Frenchies.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

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    The French can be pretty hairy, too. (Speaking from experience).
    True i once went out wuth a french girl who had more hair on her arms thsn i do, and i’m a hairy bastard. Many jameson glasses were needed.

    But thats an exception to the rule, unless ur french connection had som arab roots
     
    Skunk

    Skunk

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    True i once went out wuth a french girl who had more hair on her arms thsn i do, and i’m a hairy bastard. Many jameson glasses were needed.

    But thats an exception to the rule, unless ur french connection had som arab roots
    French female with hairy armpits
    At first i thought it was a rumor till
    I’ve witnessed it myself

    How common is that
     
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