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UK, US, France and Germany condemn russian nerve agent attack on UK

Isabella

The queen of "Bazella"
Orange Room Supporter
Still, circumstantial evidence is not enough to formally accuse Russia of being behind those killings. It could be the work of any intelligence agency out there trying to frame Russia in order to isolate it.

Dude Russia just bragged about a nuclear submarine of theirs going undetected in the united states! No idea how they knew it was undetected, and it did not actually go into us borders but they still ****ing bragged about it! In no conceivable universe are all of Putin's critics and opponents dying of natural causes or for the sole purpose of isolating Russia when Russia is doing an excellent job of isolating themselves! Russia is peacocking on a global stage, but when they get called out on their crap the propaganda bots suddenly break free and it's like yes blame it on the Russians! Of course it's going to get blamed on the Russians when they are the ones responsible for it and the entire world agrees!
 

gramsci

Legendary Member
I think you need to give your irrational defense of Russia a rest! Nothing about modern Russia is either communist or socialist! See unlike democracy communism is mainly an economic system, modern Russia is as far removed from that as the united states is! If anything France is more communist than Russia!

The only thing you can say about Russia with links to communism is that Putin is a freaking dictator, so you can say modern Russia is authoritarian and that would be true to form when compared to previous leaders like Stalin! However basing your irrational defense of Putin and Russia on communism is quite baseless!

Also the above is not related to your article
Did u read the article before u reverse ur frustration on me ?
 

Isabella

The queen of "Bazella"
Orange Room Supporter
Did u read the article before u reverse ur frustration on me ?

As stated my statement had nothing to do with the article but rather your eagerness about defending Russia and China on every topic based on a romanticised version of communism you have in your mind, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Russia is quite far removed from communism!

And no I didn't read the article, no interest in doing so, clicking the link and seeing Russia insider as source was enough for me to dismiss everything stated there!
 

gramsci

Legendary Member
As stated my statement had nothing to do with the article but rather your eagerness about defending Russia and China on every topic based on a romanticised version of communism you have in your mind, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Russia is quite far removed from communism!

And no I didn't read the article, no interest in doing so, clicking the link and seeing Russia insider as source was enough for me to dismiss everything stated there!
I defend countries that resist against western imperialism... Never hinding it...
 

gramsci

Legendary Member
No you support countries that are perpetuating the modern day equivalent of western imperialism!
remind u that in the last 30 years .. all the wars waged in the world didnt witness any involvment of russia or china ..
but it was westen imperialism ( USA & CO through their criminal organization NATO and their proxy al qaeda allies )..
after the fall of the soviet union , eveyone thought that the cold war is over.. but hostility against russia remained.. and ill cite some hostile acts:
-support and financing al qaeda in chechenya and the war against russia
- destruction of the kursk submarine on 2000 , and the kill of all its equipage but american missile .
-the coloured revolution in georgia and their act of war against russia .
- the NATO missile system all around russia borders.
..not to mention the influence of te was against jugoslavia ,iraq , lybia , syria on russia since they were its best allies .
-last act is the war is in eastern ukraine .

so russia in this situation is not the agressor ..but someone else is .

talking about china , u fall into the ridiculuous , just tell me about one war made by china ...:D

north korea instead have all th right to developp its nuclear arm , if they dont want to end like in lybia or in iraq , or worst like in syria ..

so goes to Iran if u want me to compelete the list ( eventhough i have no much sympathy for their theocratic regime )
 
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gramsci

Legendary Member
As stated my statement had nothing to do with the article but rather your eagerness about defending Russia and China on every topic based on a romanticised version of communism you have in your mind, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Russia is quite far removed from communism!

And no I didn't read the article, no interest in doing so, clicking the link and seeing Russia insider as source was enough for me to dismiss everything stated there!

what percentage did the communist/leftist of votes get in the last french election ( macron got 24 % and le pen 20 % ) .. remind me please?
 

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

Legendary Member
when u racially create a hatred cause against a specific ethnic grouo or race .. it called racism . ( unless u prefer call it with another name )

I see you making empty slogans, but I do not see anyone being racist.

Try again - make case that russophibia represents this "racially create a hatred cause against a specific ethnic grouo or race".
 

gramsci

Legendary Member
this is the comment of the temporary govern (who lost the last election -) ( waiting the formation of the new govern of italy) in response to the issue .considering that gentiloni is hard core euopeist pro Nato

"All of the country's other main parties, including those which performed best in the recent general election, also have a relatively pro-Russia stance. Among the most vocal is League leader Matteo Salvini, part of a rightwing coalition that scooped 37 percent of the vote. Last spring, he travelled to Moscow to sign a 'collaboration agreement' with the deputy speaker of the Russian parliament, on behalf of Vladimir Putin's United Russia party."

on this issue another divergence to emerge between italy and EU burocrats - we will see


Italy finally comments on nerve agent attack as PM Gentiloni calls Theresa May
 

Kizzeb2019

Well-Known Member
Still, circumstantial evidence is not enough to formally accuse Russia of being behind those killings. It could be the work of any intelligence agency out there trying to frame Russia in order to isolate it.
Occam's razor
 
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