UN/US Brokered Negotiations Between Lebanon and Israel to Demarcate Maritime Borders

JustLeb

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للمرسوم 6433
This opportunity expires soon. Nice move. The israelis negotiation team send their junior staff to talk to the Lebanese. They have no time for crap.

This a classic example of sheep believing their own lies.
Khalas 7ot idak b may berdi, Bassil b 7ella
no decree 6433, in return of removing sanctions
for those who don't believe this, namely el mareshal @SeaAb , they should listen again to Bassil press conf with the Hungarian minister:
Sanctions on him will make Lebanon will go EAST!!!
@SeaAb, you write 20 times the following theorem:
"whenever Bassil interest clashes with the public interest he chooses his own"
 

JustLeb

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check time 18:25 for minimum 5min, or better 12min, you can start to figure out the nasty trick that the midget is trying to play
 
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JustLeb

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So all they need is to send a letter??? Wtf! Dayya3na Ziad baroud honestly

He said it is preferable from the internal procedure stand point to do it by the book
but if it does not work this way, AOUN must sign it to preserve Lebanon rights.
Which kherfen baabda will not do it, I am 95% sure of that, because he wants to sell it for the Americans in order to lift the sanctions on Bassil.
It seems as for now that they didn't find the right combination to sell it to the Lebanese people, that's why they are referring to nonsense statement such as michel aoun can be trusted with the Lebanese rights.
As matter of fact kherfen baabda can't be trusted of anything when he has to choose between Lebanon interest and his own
 

Walidos

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He said it is preferable from the internal procedure stand point to do it by the book
but if it does not work this way, AOUN must sign it to preserve Lebanon rights.
Which kherfen baabda will not do it, I am 95% sure of that, because he wants to sell it for the Americans in order to lift the sanctions on Bassil.
It seems as for now that they didn't find the right combination to sell it to the Lebanese people, that's why they are referring to nonsense statement such as michel aoun can be trusted with the Lebanese rights.
As matter of fact kherfen baabda can't be trusted of anything when he has to choose between Lebanon interest and his own
But he said that all it needs is that the authorities inform the UN relevant bodies... so ma btefro2 the marsoom...!
 

JustLeb

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For fer2e el za2iffeh 3al forum, b lebnen w al mahjar, watch for 5 or 6 min
 

JustLeb

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But he said that all it needs is that the authorities inform the UN relevant bodies... so ma btefro2 the marsoom...!

walla ya istez boukra ana tale3 shoufo, and will tell him that!
shou ostak, if he is not signing the decree that is signed by the PM and the ministers, are you expecting that he sends a letter in his own name?
The guy does not want to sign, he wants to use as a bargaining chip to lift Bassil sanctions.
 

Walidos

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walla ya istez boukra ana tale3 shoufo, and will tell him that!
shou ostak, if he is not signing the decree that is signed by the PM and the ministers, are you expecting that he sends a letter in his own name?
The guy does not want to sign, he wants to use as a bargaining chip to lift Bassil sanctions.
Lah I am not talking about Aoun, I am asking if a letter will suffice or not... if a letter suffices all this circus is useless... so am trying to understand if a letter suffices or not, irrespective of anything else...!
 

JustLeb

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Lah I am not talking about Aoun, I am asking if a letter will suffice or not... if a letter suffices all this circus is useless... so am trying to understand if a letter suffices or not, irrespective of anything else...!
The letter should be sent by the president, it is not like the foreign minister byotla3 3abelo to send a letter.
The president is the only side that is allowed to talk/negotiate with international partners.
 

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It's funny. When others weren't signing , fpm pictured the letter as the ultimate in sovereign betrayal. Now they are questioning it's significance. Isteho shway. netfi.

The LA or GMA are not qualified to negotiate . They tip toe through a glass field.

HA should send a father who lost his children in Qana or a brother of a martyred from Maroun elRas. Only then will israelis prick their ears up and listen. The rest are like sending homer simpson to afghanistan.
 

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It's funny. When others weren't signing , fpm pictured the letter as the ultimate in sovereign betrayal. Now they are questioning it's significance. Isteho shway. netfi.

The LA or GMA are not qualified to negotiate . They tip toe through a glass field.

HA should send a father who lost his children in Qana or a brother of a martyred from Maroun elRas. Only then will israelis prick their ears up and listen. The rest are like sending homer simpson to afghanistan.

Yea except the president is not negotiating on our borders
apparently he has something else in mind
 

JustLeb

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Watch only 40s

العميد الطاير بسام ياسين أعلن أن الوفد تعرض لطعنة

 

Walidos

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The army has spoken

You are being unfair... the army has not spoken, Aoun agreed with the American envoy to restart the negotiations... it’s not a coincidence... Israel was threatening a new line of their own (pulled from their asses) and didn’t do anything... whereas the lebanese negotiating team starts off with their line 29 as we all wanted. The looks like the threat of signing the decree got the negotiations back in, now hopefully they will agree on a line in between the Hoff line and line 29... in the meantime there is always the threat of signing the decree even if unilaterally before Israel have any kind of claim beyond karish...

As usual there is now a campaign to disassociate the president from the negotiating team to avoid giving him a win, if indeed there is a win at the end of it, namely, an agreement on a line between Hoff and line 29...

I am still hopeful.
 

JustLeb

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You are being unfair... the army has not spoken, Aoun agreed with the American envoy to restart the negotiations... it’s not a coincidence... Israel was threatening a new line of their own (pulled from their asses) and didn’t do anything... whereas the lebanese negotiating team starts off with their line 29 as we all wanted. The looks like the threat of signing the decree got the negotiations back in, now hopefully they will agree on a line in between the Hoff line and line 29... in the meantime there is always the threat of signing the decree even if unilaterally before Israel have any kind of claim beyond karish...

As usual there is now a campaign to disassociate the president from the negotiating team to avoid giving him a win, if indeed there is a win at the end of it, namely, an agreement on a line between Hoff and line 29...

I am still hopeful.
Your analysis is over stretched.
The Israeli line is a nonsense with no legal background, as Laura Hatanyan explained, also Lebanon has 2 such lines to put on the table.
Signing the decree and sending it to the UN make it a disputed area and signal that to international companies not to drill in it, this is its importance. It is not like the Israelis will respect it or agree with it. It will make companies unwilling to work in disputed areas because it's not safe for them and for their staff.

Furthermore, forget about my own opinion, it's the head of the negotiation team who said, not signing the decree is backstabbing.

Another thing, why did the fpmers do a campaign against najjar to sign the decree, and they become mute when their leader did not? Then they started to pull all sorts of lame reasons to justify him?

Why do you think the Israelis didn't want us to send the decree to the UN?
Isn't it because it strengthen our position? And we gave them a free gift by not doing it?
 
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Walidos

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Your analysis is over stretched.
The Israeli line is a nonsense with no legal background, as Laura Hatanyan explained, also Lebanon has 2 such lines to put on the table.
Signing the decree and sending it to the UN make it a disputed area and signal that to international companies not to drill in it, this is its importance. It is not like the Israelis will respect it or agree with it. It will make companies unwilling to work in disputed areas because it's not safe for them and for their staff.

Furthermore, forget about my own opinion, it's the head of the negotiation team who said, not signing the decree is backstabbing.

Another thing, why did the fpmers do a campaign against najjar to sign the decree, and they become mute when their leader did not? Then they started to pull all sorts of lame reasons to justify him?

Why do you think the Israelis didn't want us to send the decree to the UN?
Isn't it because it strengthen our position? And we gave them a free gift by not doing it?
All this is just talk, I for one want results, I.e a deal that gives us a line between the Hoff line and line 29... which is what everybody including Laury is saying... signing it is important - but landing a deal is the first goal, starting the drilling the second, commercialising and safeguarding the fortune is the third... signing the deal between the Hoff Line and line 29... so no one disingenuously misinterprets my post.
By the way, what was the date of the head of the committee’s speech saying it’s a stab in the back? If I understood the reportage it is “about 2 months ago” I.e. before the ministers had signed... the guy was not talking about the president, in fact they go back to the negotiating table very strong, knowing they (through the president) can switch the area to disputed if need be. I still maintain that signing the decree will be critical of negotiations fail, or if the israeli side tries delay tactics so they can start drilling and strip us of our bargaining chip. And this is still an option... my analysis is not stretched at all, it only has facts... yours on the other hand is a combination of facts and assumptions, that Aoun doesn’t want to agree a deal, though he was pushing for line 29... that he is only wanting to lift sanctions on Bassil, which frankly wether it i happens or not I couldn’t care less, that the army has spoken as if complaining about Aoun whereas this was 2 months ago complaining about the marada minister...
 
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