UN/US Brokered Negotiations Between Lebanon and Israel to Demarcate Maritime Borders

JustLeb

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All this is just talk, I for one want results, I.e a deal that gives us a line between the Hoff line and line 29... which is what everybody including Laury is saying... signing it is important - but landing a deal is the first goal, starting the drilling the second, commercialising and safeguarding the fortune is the third... signing the deal between the Hoff Line and line 29... so no one disingenuously misinterprets my post.
By the way, what was the date of the head of the committee’s speech saying it’s a stab in the back? If I understood the reportage it is “about 2 months ago” I.e. before the ministers had signed... the guy was not talking about the president, in fact they go back to the negotiating table very strong, knowing they (through the president) can switch the area to disputed if need be. I still maintain that signing the decree will be critical of negotiations fail, or if the israeli side tries delay tactics so they can start drilling and strip us of our bargaining chip. And this is still an option... my analysis is not stretched at all, it only has facts... yours on the other hand is a combination of facts and assumptions, that Aoun doesn’t want to agree a deal, though he was pushing for line 29... that he is only wanting to lift sanctions on Bassil, which frankly wether it i happens or not I couldn’t care less, that the army has spoken as if complaining about Aoun whereas this was 2 months ago complaining about the marada minister...
yes it is 2 months ago, and it was not targeting Aoun, but everyone who didn't sign.
But since then all who needed to sign have signed except Aoun, it is easy to say by simple deduction that so far he is a backstabber.
Needless to say that fpmers on social media were attacking najjar...
 

The_FPMer

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yes it is 2 months ago, and it was not targeting Aoun, but everyone who didn't sign.
But since then all who needed to sign have signed except Aoun, it is easy to say by simple deduction that so far he is a backstabber.
Needless to say that fpmers on social media were attacking najjar...
Did Diab sign it?
 

Walidos

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@Walidos watch for 5min

But that’s not what Bassil said... this is this guys opinion... anyhow I really can’t be bothered by either him or bassil... the negotiations restarted today on the basis of Hoff and line 29, this is the critical point...
 

Walidos

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yes it is 2 months ago, and it was not targeting Aoun, but everyone who didn't sign.
But since then all who needed to sign have signed except Aoun, it is easy to say by simple deduction that so far he is a backstabber.
Needless to say that fpmers on social media were attacking najjar...
Il mishkleh between FPM and Najjar is that the president’s team is negotiating and they need to hold the cards... imagine they threaten to sign decree 6433 and Najjar hasn’t signed it yet... so while I agree we bicker and fight over every little detail, the decree is now with the government, and if need be, the president... we all know this president is “uncontrollable, unpredictable” as per the Americans... hopefully this plays in our favour.
 

JustLeb

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we all know this president is “uncontrollable, unpredictable” as per the Americans... hopefully this plays in our favour.

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Don Hector Salamanca does not trust him, neither do I 😁 😁 😁
 

JustLeb

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But that’s not what Bassil said...
I guess he did, because believe it or not, I listen to Bassil most of the time.
He wanted to modify the composition of the team and put a person appointed by the president and another appointed by the PM
 

Walidos

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I guess he did, because believe it or not, I listen to Bassil most of the time.
He wanted to modify the composition of the team and put a person appointed by the president and another appointed by the PM
Eh that was weird... but hey, the team is unchanged and we crack on...
 

JustLeb

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Eh that was weird... but hey, the team is unchanged and we crack on...
Since you like things that do not change ;)
That does not change the fact that Bassil's intervention in this file is suspicious, to say the least.
Everything of its proposal makes me suspicious about his true intentions.
The team modification, the insertion of international experts, the lines on which he wanted to juggle, the redefinition of the borders,...
Really at the very very very least, he is trying to torpedo the Army and its Chief any success to diminish his chances of becoming president.
This guy is full of vices, among them obvious low-level jealousy.
This was clear during the press conf with the FM of Hungary, he compared himself to Hariri in an apparent crisis of jealousy when no one asked him or cared...
 

Walidos

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Since you like things that do not change ;)
That does not change the fact that Bassil's intervention in this file is suspicious, to say the least.
Everything of its proposal makes me suspicious about his true intentions.
The team modification, the insertion of international experts, the lines on which he wanted to juggle, the redefinition of the borders,...
Really at the very very very least, he is trying to torpedo the Army and its Chief any success to diminish his chances of becoming president.
This guy is full of vices, among them obvious low-level jealousy.
This was clear during the press conf with the FM of Hungary, he compared himself to Hariri in an apparent crisis of jealousy when no one asked him or cared...
Inta anything he does will make you suspicious of him... 😂 if he stays quiet or speaks, and whatever he says!
i am a simpler person, anything that doesn’t add value I disregard!
 

lebnan_lilkel

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FPMers ...Please change your story to line up with PMA's. Yalla.

وبحسب معلومات «الأخبار» فاتَح الوفد المفاوض الرئيس عون بأمر تعديل المرسوم 6433، وسبب الإحجام عن توقيعه، فأجاب رئيس الجمهورية بأن «هناك إشكالية تتعلق بضرورة انعقاد جلسة لمجلس الوزراء للبت به، وأن توقيعه بشكل استثنائي مخالف دستورياً، وقد يستغل البعض ذلِك للهجوم عليه»،
 

JustLeb

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FPMers ...Please change your story to line up with PMA's. Yalla.

وبحسب معلومات «الأخبار» فاتَح الوفد المفاوض الرئيس عون بأمر تعديل المرسوم 6433، وسبب الإحجام عن توقيعه، فأجاب رئيس الجمهورية بأن «هناك إشكالية تتعلق بضرورة انعقاد جلسة لمجلس الوزراء للبت به، وأن توقيعه بشكل استثنائي مخالف دستورياً، وقد يستغل البعض ذلِك للهجوم عليه»،
@Walidos you have been pushing yourself to analyze the intentions of Aoun, while he sticks to the same lame excuse.
It seems the guy not interested in your help, nor interested in helping himself find a reasonable justifications.

Update: he left the door opened to sign it
https://www.lebanonfiles.com/articles/أخبار-محليّة/الرئيس-عون-للوفد-المفاوض-تعديل-المرسو/
 
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JustLeb

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FPMers ...Please change your story to line up with PMA's. Yalla.

وبحسب معلومات «الأخبار» فاتَح الوفد المفاوض الرئيس عون بأمر تعديل المرسوم 6433، وسبب الإحجام عن توقيعه، فأجاب رئيس الجمهورية بأن «هناك إشكالية تتعلق بضرورة انعقاد جلسة لمجلس الوزراء للبت به، وأن توقيعه بشكل استثنائي مخالف دستورياً، وقد يستغل البعض ذلِك للهجوم عليه»،
https://www.lebanonfiles.com/articles/أخبار-محليّة/الرئيس-عون-للوفد-المفاوض-تعديل-المرسو/

Actually he left the door open to sign the decree.whether he does or not, the coming days will show it.

But You didn't mention the whole whole story, which makes you biased ;)
 

Walidos

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@Walidos you have been pushing yourself to analyze the intentions of Aoun, while he sticks to the same lame excuse.
It seems the guy not interested in your help, nor interested in helping himself find a reasonable justifications.

Update: he left the door opened to sign it
https://www.lebanonfiles.com/articles/أخبار-محليّة/الرئيس-عون-للوفد-المفاوض-تعديل-المرسو/
I don’t really trust these articles, even if they said at the end that he left the door open... lebanese journalists are notorious for just spreading opinions and fairytales...

In all cases the negotiating team is back in action today, starting point is Hof and line 29, deal should be within these two lines and hopefully some compensation from karish that has part of it within our territorial waters...
 

TayyarBeino

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الرئيس عون التقى الوفد اللبناني المفاوض لترسيم الحدود البحرية واطلع على وقائع اجتماع اليوم ومشاركة الوفد الأميركي الذي طلب رئيسه ان يكون التفاوض محصورا فقط بين الخط الإسرائيلي والخط اللبناني المودعين لدى الأمم المتحدة، وذلك خلافاً للطرح اللبناني ولمبدأ التفاوض بدون شروط مسبقة

الرئيس عون اعطى توجيهاته للوفد المفاوض وشدد على ألا تكون متابعة التفاوض مرتبطة بشروط مسبقة بل اعتماد القانون الدولي الذي يبقى الأساس لضمان استمرار المفاوضات للوصول الى حل عادل ومنصف يريده لبنان حفاظا على المصلحة الوطنية العليا والاستقرار، وعلى حقوق اللبنانيين في استثمار ثرواتهم

 
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