UN/US Brokered Negotiations Between Lebanon and Israel to Demarcate Maritime Borders

lebnan_lilkel

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The real story without the heroics . Lebanese politicians are trying to score points but they got caught out... If the new claims were valid , they should have been claimed years ago and not between negotiation meetings... from the Jerusalem post ....

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During those negotiations, Lebanon increased its demands by presenting a map with a line further south, which would have added more than 1,400 sq.km. to the disputed area.

Lebanese President Michel Aoun has thus far blocked the submission of the new map to the UN, despite attempts by other parts of his government.

In response to Lebanon’s increased demands, Israel drew a new map doubling its claim but did not make use of it because Lebanon did not submit its new position to the UN."
 

Viral

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The real story without the heroics . Lebanese politicians are trying to score points but they got caught out... If the new claims were valid , they should have been claimed years ago and not between negotiation meetings... from the Jerusalem post ....

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During those negotiations, Lebanon increased its demands by presenting a map with a line further south, which would have added more than 1,400 sq.km. to the disputed area.

Lebanese President Michel Aoun has thus far blocked the submission of the new map to the UN, despite attempts by other parts of his government.

In response to Lebanon’s increased demands, Israel drew a new map doubling its claim but did not make use of it because Lebanon did not submit its new position to the UN."
How many drinks you had today so far?
 

JustLeb

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This is what I said way before the negotiation started, and it matches what happened.


I am posting to you the update to my original post:

Look now what is he saying: let's continue the negotiation and we present our study to the Israelis and they will present us theirs.
I bet the isrealies might accept and they will listen to our presentation then say "ok we listened, but we don't accept, this region is not under negotiation but the HOFF line"
WHAT WILL WE DO AT THIS TIME????!!!!

We strip ourselves of all weapons then we go to war, how idiotic is this !!!

The real story without the heroics . Lebanese politicians are trying to score points but they got caught out... If the new claims were valid , they should have been claimed years ago and not between negotiation meetings... from the Jerusalem post ....

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During those negotiations, Lebanon increased its demands by presenting a map with a line further south, which would have added more than 1,400 sq.km. to the disputed area.

Lebanese President Michel Aoun has thus far blocked the submission of the new map to the UN, despite attempts by other parts of his government.

In response to Lebanon’s increased demands, Israel drew a new map doubling its claim but did not make use of it because Lebanon did not submit its new position to the UN."




How many drinks you had today so far?
Khallik neyem, la shou tou3a :D
rakkeb baydat w 3mellak shi post in the thread of Samir Sfeir :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Patriot

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Listen to this part concerning the maritime borders



3awn 3etlen ham el ta3en :)

yea
let Israel drill in our waters and extract else bisir ta3en

3awn is committing high treason here and should be put on trial
unfortunately we have a useless parliament.
 

JustLeb

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Kherfen baabda wants to do borders according to international laws, but he does not sign the decree and inform the UN of the Lebanese point of view and decision.
The guy has sold the waters, and he is maneuvering until the right time to blame the negotiation team for the failure and tell the public opinion that the Hoff line is what he was able to get.
of course, the sheep will applaud him, as usual.
Then a few months later the Americans will lift the sanctions on Bassil, and of course, he will claim that he fought their decision within the US.
 
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JustLeb

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Momken, I don't know much about that guy, but one thing is clear, there is a procedure in the UN that has been well known now which permits Lebanon to officially enforce its claim to line 29 away from the empty words that kherfen baabda is trying to sell us...
If he is serious about what he is saying, let him sign the decree and inform the UN of the decision.
If he thinks the army is wrong, let him say it and tell us why he thinks it is wrong
Other than that, it is only BS and the suspicion that he is doing a deal on our expense and on the future generation is justified
He wants the people to trust him, he should show he deserves this trust
 

JB81

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Line 29 is disputed. Lebanon may try to get all the area; However, it may settled on a line between 29 and 23

So, Lebanon can ask about line 29; in case it is settled on a new line; the President may not face a prosecution of High Treason for giving up on Lebanese lands

The corrupted system are waiting for the President to make one false step to remove him.

Arnab Shekri Sader will add this to his list
 

Patriot

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Line 29 is disputed. Lebanon may try to get all the area; However, it may settled on a line between 29 and 23

So, Lebanon can ask about line 29; in case it is settled on a new line; the President may not face a prosecution of High Treason for giving up on Lebanese lands

The corrupted system are waiting for the President to make one false step to remove him.

Arnab Shekri Sader will add this to his list

his duty is to sign the decree so Lebanon can negotiate on a line between 23 and 29
for as long as he doesn't sign Lebanon cannot negotiate on any inch beyond line 23 and Israel will start drilling there in the upcoming 2 weeks

What Aoun is doing is indeed High treason, unless he signs.
 

JB81

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his duty is to sign the decree so Lebanon can negotiate on a line between 23 and 29
for as long as he doesn't sign Lebanon cannot negotiate on any inch beyond line 23 and Israel will start drilling there in the upcoming 2 weeks

What Aoun is doing is indeed High treason, unless he signs.

The army is negotiating on Line 29
 

Patriot

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The army is negotiating on Line 29

Irrelevant
Lebanon officially set its border up until Line 23 in the UN and the army cannot negotiate beyond that line
unless Aoun signs and send the decree to the UN which then marks the area between 23 and 29 as a disputed area and forces the Israelis to stop drilling.

If the above doesn't happen 29 is not a disputed area and there's no international law that can stop the Israelis from drilling

This is high treason by all means
 

JB81

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Irrelevant
Lebanon officially set its border up until Line 23 in the UN and the army cannot negotiate beyond that line
unless Aoun signs and send the decree to the UN which then marks the area between 23 and 29 as a disputed area and forces the Israelis to stop drilling.

If the above doesn't happen 29 is not a disputed area and there's no international law that can stop the Israelis from drilling

This is high treason by all means

The High Treason are the ones who signed on Line 23

Remind us who did it?

Anyhow, the army is negotiating on Line 29; and the Americans are assisting both sides to reach somewhere in between
 

Patriot

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The High Treason are the ones who signed on Line 23

Remind us who did it?

Anyhow, the army is negotiating on Line 29; and the Americans are assisting both sides to reach somewhere in between

yetfadal and correct this mistake as per the most recent studies and sign on the decree then
he has the sala7iyet and authority to do so and he's not doing it

Ya habibeh
The army cannot negotiate on Line 29

Officially the area between 23 and 29 is not a disputed area right now
lak worst case scenario the israelis will withdraw from the negotations and start drilling between 23 and 29 because Lebanon does not officially recognize line 29 as its border
and that's because Aoun is not signing
 

Patriot

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What official document are you getting this from? What says a country can't have a negotiating position other than what's officially deposited with the UN?

That's how it goes
you only need common sense and a little bit of brain power

let me spoon feed it to you.

For as long as Lebanon does not officially declare line 29 as its border, by international law anything beyond line 23 is not recognized as a 'disputed area' because Lebanon never claimed that area regardless of what the army claims in the meeting.
meaning that the israelis can simply withdraw or postpone the negotiations and start drilling beyond line 23 and there's no international law that can stop them.
 
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