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Understanding freemasonry!

What is Freemasonry ?

  • Freemasonry is a secret organization who aims for the ultimate truth

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Freemasonry is an organisation whose sole purpose is world affairs

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Freemasonry is a cult opposed to all religions

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Freemasonry is a myth

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • I really don't know what freemasonry is!

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • All the above

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 13 52.0%

  • Total voters
    25
Myso

Myso

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I don't understand, the thesis here is that knights templars turned freemasons?
Yes. To put it in a timeline:

Even before the Church turned on them, they were already a secret order (as they had met the Druze, Sufis, Assassins and others, and adopted their traditions). And had already built up some heresy towards the Church.

But after persecution in Europe, they solidified as underground groups and secret mystery cults. And such movements would pop up every once and a while leading up to the 1700s with the same ideas and traditions. An example would be Rosicrucians. Their founder Christian Rosenkreuz would even visit the Druze temples in Lebanon and the Sufi Temples in the Middle East.

The 1700s, if you like, was more of a formal representation. But those groups held the same old Pythagorean beliefs in sacred geometry (hence the compass) and the secret handshake / grip (which even the Druze have).
 
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  • Isabella

    Isabella

    The queen of "Bazella"
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    Yes. To put it in a timeline:

    Even before the Church turned on them, they were already a secret order (as they had met the Druze, Sufis, Assassins and others, and adopted their traditions). And had already built up some heresy towards the Church.

    But after persecution in Europe, they solidified as underground groups and secret mystery cults. And such movements would pop up every once and a while leading up to the 1700s with the same ideas and traditions. An example would be Rosicrucians. Their founder Christian Rosenkreuz would even visit the Druze temples in Lebanon and the Sufi Temples in the Middle East.

    The 1700s, if you like, was more of a formal representation. But those groups held the same old Pythagorean beliefs in sacred geometry (hence the compass) and the secret handshake / grip (which even the Druze have).
    But the Knights Templar branch of freemasonry is not open to non Christians

     
    Myso

    Myso

    Active Member
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    Also, you might find this interesting...

    Rosicrucians started in 1604 when a supernova appeared (new star created), and suggested a Lion would take over the church. Most of their symbolism of their savior is a Lion.

    Compare that to the Freemasons in the 1700s and their depiction and emphasis of the Lion.

    Or just compare the two secret orders in terms of organization, symbolism and beliefs.
     
    Iron Maiden

    Iron Maiden

    Paragon of Bacon
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    Also btw, Arslan in Turkish = Lion.
    بس الله لا يحط هيك أسود بديار حدا.
    CS Lewis used the same symbolism in narnia depicting a talking lion called Aslan king of all kingdoms of narnia in a parralel to jesus christ, cool to know the origin of this depiction
     
    ّTelefon Kasse

    ّTelefon Kasse

    Member
    I don't understand, the thesis here is that knights templars turned freemasons?
    It was all about getting free from the grip of ignorance that was the church who ruled Europeans for centuries and kept them in the dark.
    For such thing to happen, they needed to be enlightened somewhere ... this somewhere was the middle east when they were under the banner of the crusade.
    What they saw in the middle east under the rule of Islam made them enlightened to defy the teachings and the religious heresies of the church

    Everything else that Omeros and Mysobalanus are fighting about .. cosmetics and peels.
     
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