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US Elections 2020 - Presidential, Congressional and Local [TRUMP vs BIDEN]

Who do you support in the upcoming US elections?

  • Donald Trump

  • Joe Biden

  • Neither


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proIsrael-nonIsraeli

proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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Not a very weird way. In a global pandemic and things are changing really really fast...days seem as months and weeks as years.

Imagine due to the pandemic the elections need to be pushed a few months? or Biden gets sick as its a very public effort running for president or the dementia stories are true or the doubt gets bigger? Keeping his delegates at this point guarantees his second in line status over a cuomo or whoever for the Democrats and does now allow them (politically) to discard the primaries ... Basically he stopped campaining and not running but keeping his score in his pocket.
What you say makes sense in theory.
However, Saunders is unelectable in the eyes of mainstream America and Democrats will do everything possible and impossible to get rid of Bernie.
 
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  • HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid

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    What did Bernie do with his delegates, did he pledge them to Biden?
    No. Biden will get the required delegate count on his own. Bernie's delegates will vote for him and likely get spots on relevant convention committees. But as a delegate himself, Bernie will vote for Biden.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    No. Biden will get the required delegate count on his own. Bernie's delegates will vote for him and likely get spots on relevant convention committees. But as a delegate himself, Bernie will vote for Biden.
    Thank you.
    "No" - don't you find it strange.
    "Biden will get the required delegate count on his own" - most likely if without further contest.
    "as a delegate himself, Bernie will vote for Biden" - so, then why not pledge his delegates to Joe. What's Bernie (or DNC?) is up to.
     
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    HalaMadrid

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    "No" - don't you find it strange.
    Why? That's what always happens. Same as in 2016 and every other nomination year.
    "Biden will get the required delegate count on his own" - most likely if without further contest.
    No, he will get it regardless of contest or not. He already is on track to get 1991 unless Bernie gets over 70% in the remaining contests.
    "as a delegate himself, Bernie will vote for Biden" - so, then why not pledge his delegates to Joe. What's Bernie (or DNC?) is up to.
    Because if he meets a threshold (I believe 25% of delegates) he will get a place on the committee that makes the agenda for the party for the next four years, like he did in 2016. And he'll be able to insert his priorities in that agenda and cement some of the changes that he already got. This is out in the open. He literally said this in his campaign suspension video. There's no conspiracy here.

    If you're trying to hint at the DNC replacing Biden with someone, it's possible (though unlikely) and it's not gonna be bernie or anyone bernie would throw his delegates to.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    Why? That's what always happens. Same as in 2016 and every other nomination year.

    No, he will get it regardless of contest or not. He already is on track to get 1991 unless Bernie gets over 70% in the remaining contests.

    Because if he meets a threshold (I believe 25% of delegates) he will get a place on the committee that makes the agenda for the party for the next four years, like he did in 2016. And he'll be able to insert his priorities in that agenda and cement some of the changes that he already got. This is out in the open. He literally said this in his campaign suspension video. There's no conspiracy here.

    If you're trying to hint at the DNC replacing Biden with someone, it's possible (though unlikely) and it's not gonna be bernie or anyone bernie would throw his delegates to.
    "If you're trying to hint at the DNC replacing Biden with someone, it's possible (though unlikely)" - yes, this is what I am wondering.

    "it's not gonna be bernie or anyone bernie would throw his delegates to" - no, it will not be Bernie, but Bernie's delegates could still be used by DNC depending on particulars of the deal between DNC and Bernie (should such deal happen).
     
    HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid

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    "If you're trying to hint at the DNC replacing Biden with someone, it's possible (though unlikely)" - yes, this is what I am wondering.

    "it's not gonna be bernie or anyone bernie would throw his delegates to" - no, it will not be Bernie, but Bernie's delegates could still be used by DNC depending on particulars of the deal between DNC and Bernie (should such deal happen).
    Again, no. If Joe Biden is replaced it'll be through a deal with him and his team and by his own delegates (regardless of Bernie's involvement). Bernie's (added to all of the other dropped out candidates' delegates) are not enough to replace Biden without his acquiescence.
     
    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

    proIsrael-nonIsraeli

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    Again, no. If Joe Biden is replaced it'll be through a deal with him and his team and by his own delegates (regardless of Bernie's involvement). Bernie's (added to all of the other dropped out candidates' delegates) are not enough to replace Biden without his acquiescence.
    OK, I am mainly guessing while hoping that my guesses are logical.

    Thank you for replies.
     
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